New Darko Article

[john2jer]

How do you know they're inflated at the same rate? (they're not). Why not just use the more accurate reference or ESPN figures that are not inflated?

I didn't say they were, hell, I didn't even know they were inflated.

Then why are you asking irrelevant questions?

Pwned.

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Go Kraphead, it's your birthday..
(It's your birthday) so let's party and have some fun
(It's your birthday) we'll dance til the morning comes yeah
(Happy birthday) girl let's step the night away
(Happy birthday) and we're gonna celebrate, yeah

Not that you had any, but if you did, you would have just lost ALL of your cool points.

[LordBaldric]

According to 82 games Darko's per is 13.8 and Hollins' is 11.6 but their "simple rating" thinger has Darko at -1.2 which would be 6th on the team(not including Hart) and Hollins is at -10.1 which is dead last(not counting Tucker).
Not to mention Darko plays better defense and can actually pass and rebound a shot or 2..lol

For the 100th time... 82 Games PER scores are inaccurate and inflated!!!

If they're both inflated at the same rate, does it matter when you're comparing two players?

It matters in a general sense because Hollinger tuned the PER calculation so that a rating of 15 = average starter performance. So even if there are still differences between two players' inflated numbers, both players in an absolute sense look better than they are.

I e-mailed the 82 games guys a couple years ago asking why their #'s are different than those of other sites. I also noted that they defined their PER rating as "based on" Hollinger's metric, and asked what the difference was. I never got a reply...

[Krapinsky]

Not that you had any, but if you did, you would have just lost ALL of your cool points.

Yeah, but only according to your inflated rates. Most sources still have me with a few cool points left.

[TrentTuckerForever]

I do certainly contest that a short term deal is in both parties best interest. 1st year guaranteed, and then negotiate who gets the options, and when. Maybe even an incentive or two in the contract. I don't think a multi year deal is optimal for either Darko or you guys. He shouldn't risk being locked down to an underpaying contract. And of course you guys have to be careful with Darko's past track record. But, Rambis is obviously impressed.

Dude... are you his agent? It would be a wonderful thing for Darko to be locked into an underpaying contract. One of the greatest teams in NBA history, the 98 Bulls, was assembled in part because Scottie Pippen was woefully underpaid for his production. Too lazy to look up the numbers, but I think Pip was making something like $2 million per year at the end of his Chicago run. He got paid when he went to Portland, but point is that from a team standpoint you want guys to be underpaid. More wins that way, and if you're a fan of Darko's and want to see him succeed in the league, he's got to be part of a winning team.

Anyway, if Darko does all things you think he can do (defend, run the offense, crash the boards, leap tall buildings in a single bound) the money will come.

[Darko Miliminutes]

I do certainly contest that a short term deal is in both parties best interest. 1st year guaranteed, and then negotiate who gets the options, and when. Maybe even an incentive or two in the contract. I don't think a multi year deal is optimal for either Darko or you guys. He shouldn't risk being locked down to an underpaying contract. And of course you guys have to be careful with Darko's past track record. But, Rambis is obviously impressed.

Dude... are you his agent? It would be a wonderful thing for Darko to be locked into an underpaying contract. One of the greatest teams in NBA history, the 98 Bulls, was assembled in part because Scottie Pippen was woefully underpaid for his production. Too lazy to look up the numbers, but I think Pip was making something like $2 million per year at the end of his Chicago run. He got paid when he went to Portland, but point is that from a team standpoint you want guys to be underpaid. More wins that way, and if you're a fan of Darko's and want to see him succeed in the league, he's got to be part of a winning team.

Anyway, if Darko does all things you think he can do (defend, run the offense, crash the boards, leap tall buildings in a single bound) the money will come.

I just suggest that both parties do their due diligence. Darko has to be part of winning basketball, and that's a given. If he doesn't feel there's a chance of it here, then that's another step towards Europe. I would think that his priorities are (assuming the $$$ offer is fair): 1) Playing time 2) Winning, and then 3) is the $$$. Winning or the potential to win are very important to him.

And of course the club has to try and get him as cheaply as possible. But they are aware that he has very nice options in Europe. It's a pretty fine line. And, sure i could be his agent...who knows

[TrentTuckerForever]

Fair enough. I consider Darko a secondary priority - as stated in shrink's Cap Space thread I'd go after Rudy Gay hard, and deal with Darko once that's resolved. If that means he's gone, so be it... I like Darko, but the role he would play is just one hole in a roster full of them.

[GopherIt!]

Not that you had any, but if you did, you would have just lost ALL of your cool points.

Yeah, but only according to your inflated rates. Most sources still have me with a few cool points left.

I think he's right. I've got Insider, and I just checked Hollinger's Poster Efficiency Rating Coolness (PERC) and Poster Efficiency Rating Coolness Plus (PERC PLUS):

Krapinsky's stats:

MIN: 32 min
PER: 16.27
eFG% 55%
USG% 19%
BS%: 28%
TBS% 24%
OMG% 13%
PBR% 8%
GTFO%: 11%
AT&T: 6%
CRY%: 15%

PERC: +3
PERC PLUS: +2

[Krapinsky]

Not that you had any, but if you did, you would have just lost ALL of your cool points.

Yeah, but only according to your inflated rates. Most sources still have me with a few cool points left.

I think he's right. I've got Insider, and I just checked Hollinger's Poster Efficiency Rating Coolness (PERC) and Poster Efficiency Rating Coolness Plus (PERC PLUS):

Krapinsky's stats:

MIN: 32 min
PER: 16.27
eFG% 55%
USG% 19%
BS%: 28%
TBS% 24%
OMG% 13%
PBR% 8%
GTFO%: 11%
AT&T: 6%
CRY%: 15%

PERC: +3
PERC PLUS: +2

Top 5 post of the year candidate, only if it weren't for that BS% being so unrealistically low.

[john2jer]

Your TBS% is down because not enough people buy into your BS and spread it around as actual fact.

What a crappy Pabst Blue Ribbon score, though.

[Krapinsky]

Your TBS% is down because not enough people buy into your BS and spread it around as actual fact.

What a crappy Pabst Blue Ribbon score, though.

Yeah that's bull too. I drink more PBR than anyone i know and single handedly take credit for making it a popular beer once again.

[john2jer]

Probably more East Coast bias by those a-holes at BSPN.

[dennistokyo]

Fair enough. I consider Darko a secondary priority - as stated in shrink's Cap Space thread I'd go after Rudy Gay hard, and deal with Darko once that's resolved. If that means he's gone, so be it... I like Darko, but the role he would play is just one hole in a roster full of them.

What if you guys can get Evan Turner?

[GopherIt!]

Your TBS% is down because not enough people buy into your BS and spread it around as actual fact.

What a crappy Pabst Blue Ribbon score, though.

Yeah that's bull too. I drink more PBR than anyone i know and single handedly take credit for making it a popular beer once again.

Krap never struck me as a PBR guy, that's become too much of a hipster thing. I picture Krap downing something more like Heineken or Corona.

[Krapinsky]

Your TBS% is down because not enough people buy into your BS and spread it around as actual fact.

What a crappy Pabst Blue Ribbon score, though.

Yeah that's bull too. I drink more PBR than anyone i know and single handedly take credit for making it a popular beer once again.

Krap never struck me as a PBR guy, that's become too much of a hipster thing. I picture Krap downing something more like Heineken or Corona.

As the hipster sensation has caught on I've switched to Bud Heavy more in the last year plus. Heineken never, unless its the only option. Corona only if it's 85 degrees or more -- but Modelo > Pacifico > Corona.

[GopherIt!]

Your TBS% is down because not enough people buy into your BS and spread it around as actual fact.

What a crappy Pabst Blue Ribbon score, though.

remember that's only based on 32 minutes played, take a look at his PER 48 stats:

PER 48
BS%: 42%
TBS%: 36%

those numbers are more in line with what we suspected all along.

[john2jer]

Krap never struck me as a PBR guy, that's become too much of a hipster thing. I picture Krap downing something more like Heineken or Corona.

As the hipster sensation has caught on I've switched to Bud Heavy more in the last year plus. Heineken never, unless its the only option. Corona only if it's 85 degrees or more -- but Modelo > Pacifico > Corona.

I've always thought of you as a snobby apple-tini kind of guy. With your pinky out and everything.

[Esohny]

Fair enough. I consider Darko a secondary priority - as stated in shrink's Cap Space thread I'd go after Rudy Gay hard, and deal with Darko once that's resolved. If that means he's gone, so be it... I like Darko, but the role he would play is just one hole in a roster full of them.

What if you guys can get Evan Turner?

Drafting Turner at SG and acquiring Gay at SF would basically be my dream offseason.

[Macho]

FYI Darko's nickname is "the Serbian nightmare".

It's looking like he'll definitely be back in the NBA next year which is great.

[LOBO 7]

Hmm, decisions, decisions...
I would have to say:

Pacifico>Modelo>Corona

and in terms of dark(o)s:

Darko>Negra Modelo>most other dark(o)s

[horaceworthy]

FYI Darko's nickname is "the Serbian nightmare".

It's looking like he'll definitely be back in the NBA next year which is great.

I'm still hoping he can be a building block for a Timberwolves dynasty and "The Human Victory Cigar" makes a comeback, but is no longer used ironically.