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Post#401 » by Gooner » Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:59 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:They said on the YES broadcast that Kyrie does in fact think that Giannis injured him on purpose.

I looked at it again just now and it's hard to argue it wasn't a sneaky-dirty play.

Not just Giannis rushing over to 'accidentally' camp out under Kyrie's landing space, but extending his off-arm in to Kyrie confirmed to me that he knew exactly where he was.





Just looking at this play again, Kyrie landed on Giannis with his right foot, his left foot which was closer to Giannis didn't even have space to land. You can see Giannis accelerating at the last moment to get underneath him. It looked ugly and Kyrie was lucky to avoid a much more serious injury. It was a dirty play that won them a championship.
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Post#402 » by sashaturiaf » Sun Oct 16, 2022 7:13 pm

MGrand15 wrote:Not really interested in signing a free agent big. I'd rather give Sharpe a chance unless we find a real stretch 5. He's still developing but he shows a lot of good flashes. If he fails, I'm sure someone will be out there. No one's running to sign Dwight, Whiteside, or Favors.

I'm happy with how Ben is playing. Defensively, he's a menace and a complete game changer. Offensively, the team is learning to play around him. We can't mess around and ISO. We need to run the system to get good looks and it works. He also does a great job pushing the pace. Even if it doesn't result in a layup or open 3 immediately, it gets the offense started before the defense can really set. Kyrie's always been a 1-man fast break but now with Claxton + Royce running the floor hard - you could see it really stressing defenses out. Milwaukee is smart defensive team and we just ran them off the floor.

I think Ben's main issue - outside of shooting - is that he hasn't shown his pre-injury explosiveness yet. It could be a confidence in his body thing. Or just his body adjusting after surgery + 1 year off the game. I'm not worried but I don't think it's just about aggression. His dunks don't look the same as before. He's not blowing by slower players. Hopefully it comes with time. If he can get to 13 to 15 ppg, we're in business.

Here's my gut feeling on the team:

Kyrie
Royce
Ben
KD
Claxton

Off the bench:
Curry
Joe
Yuta
Sharpe

If a team is big, Morris can play spot minutes. If a team is small, Patty can play spot minutes. Curry's not a true PG but I think he'll be fine playing next to Ben or KD as the "PG". He's just a good all around player who's elite off ball but pretty damn good in PNR too. Yuta has been everything we wanted from Edwards. Easily jumped him in the rotation. His 3s look great. He hustles. He's long. His minutes have been weird in the preseason. Like he only played 11 minutes yesterday but they were all with the starters. My guess is he's a lock for the rotation. At least until TJ Warren is back.

I'm feeling good about the team right now. We showed a lot these last 2 games. We thoroughly outplayed 2 good teams.


Agree with your take but Sharpe isn't cutting it as a backup big especially once we get to the games that matter.

I'd be looking to use Curry as a trade chip to get a legitimate backup C, we won't lose much with Patty taking on Curry's role. If anything I think it's an upgrade since Patty brings more intangibles than Seth, and intangibles matter less if the guy isn't getting minutes.

Worst case scenario I'd still be signing Dwight if we can't get any takers for Curry, going into the playoffs with Clax and Sharpe as our only bigs? I'm not sure about that but I'm pretty sure we want something better to matchup with the big boys
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Post#403 » by sashaturiaf » Sun Oct 16, 2022 7:35 pm

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gigantes wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:They said on the YES broadcast that Kyrie does in fact think that Giannis injured him on purpose.

I looked at it again just now and it's hard to argue it wasn't a sneaky-dirty play.

Not just Giannis rushing over to 'accidentally' camp out under Kyrie's landing space, but extending his off-arm in to Kyrie confirmed to me that he knew exactly where he was.





Just looking at this play again, Kyrie landed on Giannis with his right foot, his left foot which was closer to Giannis didn't even have space to land. You can see Giannis accelerating at the last moment to get underneath him. It looked ugly and Kyrie was lucky to avoid a much more serious injury. It was a dirty play that won them a championship.


Giannis is a dirty player there's no doubt about it

He might play cute about it in his interviews, but this guy's whole game is about asserting himself physically. Play rough act cute excuse me while I barf my guts out, it makes me like him a lot less since he's so disingenuous about it.

Just sometime I wish we turn Sharpe into an ankle hunting goon, just let him go out against Giannis with reckless abandon with landing area and all that. If you get hurt so be it. We can always do an interview after about his Funko figurines after to make people feel good. We're such a "nice" team that bullys see that and try to take advantage of it.
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Post#404 » by Gooner » Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:07 am

sashaturiaf wrote:
Gooner wrote:
gigantes wrote:I looked at it again just now and it's hard to argue it wasn't a sneaky-dirty play.

Not just Giannis rushing over to 'accidentally' camp out under Kyrie's landing space, but extending his off-arm in to Kyrie confirmed to me that he knew exactly where he was.





Just looking at this play again, Kyrie landed on Giannis with his right foot, his left foot which was closer to Giannis didn't even have space to land. You can see Giannis accelerating at the last moment to get underneath him. It looked ugly and Kyrie was lucky to avoid a much more serious injury. It was a dirty play that won them a championship.


Giannis is a dirty player there's no doubt about it

He might play cute about it in his interviews, but this guy's whole game is about asserting himself physically. Play rough act cute excuse me while I barf my guts out, it makes me like him a lot less since he's so disingenuous about it.

Just sometime I wish we turn Sharpe into an ankle hunting goon, just let him go out against Giannis with reckless abandon with landing area and all that. If you get hurt so be it. We can always do an interview after about his Funko figurines after to make people feel good. We're such a "nice" team that bullys see that and try to take advantage of it.


I agree with your views on Giannis, he is not this nice guy that everybody wants him to be. What he did to Kyrie went not only without any punishment, even a foul, but he also won the championship after it. So everybody needs to watch out for him, especially the Nets, because he might try something like that again.
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Post#405 » by sashaturiaf » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:50 pm

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Just looking at this play again, Kyrie landed on Giannis with his right foot, his left foot which was closer to Giannis didn't even have space to land. You can see Giannis accelerating at the last moment to get underneath him. It looked ugly and Kyrie was lucky to avoid a much more serious injury. It was a dirty play that won them a championship.


Giannis is a dirty player there's no doubt about it

He might play cute about it in his interviews, but this guy's whole game is about asserting himself physically. Play rough act cute excuse me while I barf my guts out, it makes me like him a lot less since he's so disingenuous about it.

Just sometime I wish we turn Sharpe into an ankle hunting goon, just let him go out against Giannis with reckless abandon with landing area and all that. If you get hurt so be it. We can always do an interview after about his Funko figurines after to make people feel good. We're such a "nice" team that bullys see that and try to take advantage of it.


I agree with your views on Giannis, he is not this nice guy that everybody wants him to be. What he did to Kyrie went not only without any punishment, even a foul, but he also won the championship after it. So everybody needs to watch out for him, especially the Nets, because he might try something like that again.


Not buying his act at all. You're telling me a guy that plays ball for a living doesn't know it's dangerous to slide your foot under someones landing area? Go watch Giannis last step, it was a huge movement and deliberate.

It was as bad as Zaza on Kawhi but because it's Giannis he walks away clean.

His brother Thanasis also pushes the limits of the rulebook. I haven't seen anything as bad as Giannis undercutting Kyrie from him but the way he throws his body around is reckless for sure.
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Post#406 » by Gooner » Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:50 am

sashaturiaf wrote:
Gooner wrote:
sashaturiaf wrote:
Giannis is a dirty player there's no doubt about it

He might play cute about it in his interviews, but this guy's whole game is about asserting himself physically. Play rough act cute excuse me while I barf my guts out, it makes me like him a lot less since he's so disingenuous about it.

Just sometime I wish we turn Sharpe into an ankle hunting goon, just let him go out against Giannis with reckless abandon with landing area and all that. If you get hurt so be it. We can always do an interview after about his Funko figurines after to make people feel good. We're such a "nice" team that bullys see that and try to take advantage of it.


I agree with your views on Giannis, he is not this nice guy that everybody wants him to be. What he did to Kyrie went not only without any punishment, even a foul, but he also won the championship after it. So everybody needs to watch out for him, especially the Nets, because he might try something like that again.


Not buying his act at all. You're telling me a guy that plays ball for a living doesn't know it's dangerous to slide your foot under someones landing area? Go watch Giannis last step, it was a huge movement and deliberate.

It was as bad as Zaza on Kawhi but because it's Giannis he walks away clean.

His brother Thanasis also pushes the limits of the rulebook. I haven't seen anything as bad as Giannis undercutting Kyrie from him but the way he throws his body around is reckless for sure.


Giannis play was even worse than Zaza, because he did it behind Kyrie's back. Kyrie couldn't see him and he had no space to land at all because Giannis didn't just slide his foot, he was completely in his space.
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Re: ***Official 2022-23 Training Camp/Preseason Thread*** 

Post#407 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:10 am

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