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Re: GT: Nets Vs Raptors- 7:30 

Post#121 » by 3pt_chucker » Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:47 am

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Decipher wrote:People wanting Simmons to defend 5s every time obviously havent seen him play much

Not only isn't it his strength but why you would attempt to convert arguably the best perimeter defender in the league is beyond me

Anyway, good win with some nice signs but I still believe that we need a big body to use against certain opponents

Rather than signing one of the usual FA suspects (Dwight, Boogie, etc), I would be calling Spurs about Poetl

Nothing flashy but very solid and on an affordable, expiring contract

yes Poetl would be perfect ! I think Spurs are tanking but we have to give up something good to get him and we don't have the pieces right now. We should definitely give them a call tho

Jakob is not stretch 5 we need so desperately. Olynik is the to have for us. Seth, DDJ AND Sharpe should be enough, also will give us roster spots if we decide to blow it up.


Olynyck or Markannen for me.

Olynyck can't be traded until Nov tho.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Raptors- 7:30 

Post#122 » by sashaturiaf » Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:04 am

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Papi_swav wrote:yes Poetl would be perfect ! I think Spurs are tanking but we have to give up something good to get him and we don't have the pieces right now. We should definitely give them a call tho

Jakob is not stretch 5 we need so desperately. Olynik is the to have for us. Seth, DDJ AND Sharpe should be enough, also will give us roster spots if we decide to blow it up.


Olynyck or Markannen for me.

Olynyck can't be traded until Nov tho.



I think they're both too finesse orientated and thin on the rump for what we need.

Ironically Brook Lopez would be perfect for us at the moment,
Brook
KD
Ben
Royce
Kyrie
non-Nash coach


would be absolutely lethal.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Raptors- 7:30 

Post#123 » by 3pt_chucker » Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:36 am

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GTR11 wrote:Jakob is not stretch 5 we need so desperately. Olynik is the to have for us. Seth, DDJ AND Sharpe should be enough, also will give us roster spots if we decide to blow it up.


Olynyck or Markannen for me.

Olynyck can't be traded until Nov tho.



I think they're both too finesse orientated and thin on the rump for what we need.

Ironically Brook Lopez would be perfect for us at the moment,
Brook
KD
Ben
Royce
Kyrie
non-Nash coach


would be absolutely lethal.


Not sure Brook fits well in our defensive scheme. The Bucs try not to switch too much and play Brook in drop coverage which is not what the Nets want to do. Agree with the non-nash part obviously.

I've been watching Lauri a lot recently (since EuroBasket) and he's definitely less finesse than when he entered the league. He's a good rebounder, shooter and can handle the ball a bit. Also at 6-11/7 feet he allows the Nets to stay big and match up with any team in league w/o sacrificing shooting.

Would be the perfect fit on this roster. I'd trade Seth + Cam for Lauri easily. I see a contending team trading a FRP + for him.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Raptors- 7:30 

Post#124 » by sashaturiaf » Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:46 am

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Olynyck or Markannen for me.

Olynyck can't be traded until Nov tho.



I think they're both too finesse orientated and thin on the rump for what we need.

Ironically Brook Lopez would be perfect for us at the moment,
Brook
KD
Ben
Royce
Kyrie
non-Nash coach


would be absolutely lethal.


Not sure Brook fits well in our defensive scheme. The Bucs try not to switch too much and play Brook in drop coverage which is not what the Nets want to do. Agree with the non-nash part obviously.

I've been watching Lauri a lot recently (since EuroBasket) and he's definitely less finesse than when he entered the league. He's a good rebounder, shooter and can handle the ball a bit. Also at 6-11/7 feet he allows the Nets to stay big and match up with any team in league w/o sacrificing shooting.

Would be the perfect fit on this roster. I'd trade Seth + Cam for Lauri easily. I see a contending team trading a FRP + for him.


I'd also do Seth + Cam for Lauri without blinking, however we're dealing with Ainge here so he won't even pick up the phone without a first round pick getting thrown in.


I don't mind abandoning our switch heavy scheme if we had the right personnel ie- a true big in the middle. It's not like we have much to lose anyway defensively. I'd rather give up a few midrange shots rather than letting opponents feast on offensive rebounds like we do now. Nothing hurts more than defending your guts out for a full possession and forcing a missed shot just to give the ball back to the offense again.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Raptors- 7:30 

Post#125 » by ConstableChaos » Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:54 am

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ConstableChaos wrote:how long till teams start hacking Simmons? He looks terrified of getting fouled

It seems like you not familiar with new rule that was implemented, please look it up.


I know there's take fouls - can you not hack someone in the half court anymore thats not a take foul?
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Raptors- 7:30 

Post#126 » by GTR11 » Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:50 am

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ConstableChaos wrote:how long till teams start hacking Simmons? He looks terrified of getting fouled

It seems like you not familiar with new rule that was implemented, please look it up.


I know there's take fouls - can you not hack someone in the half court anymore thats not a take foul?

Yes you can't foul intentionally anymore. SVG rule, been explained during preseason games. If refs determined it was intentionally without attempting make a bball play, it's 2 shots and ball on the side.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Raptors- 7:30 

Post#127 » by GTR11 » Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:58 am

3pt_chucker wrote:
sashaturiaf wrote:
3pt_chucker wrote:
Olynyck or Markannen for me.

Olynyck can't be traded until Nov tho.



I think they're both too finesse orientated and thin on the rump for what we need.

Ironically Brook Lopez would be perfect for us at the moment,
Brook
KD
Ben
Royce
Kyrie
non-Nash coach


would be absolutely lethal.


Not sure Brook fits well in our defensive scheme. The Bucs try not to switch too much and play Brook in drop coverage which is not what the Nets want to do. Agree with the non-nash part obviously.

I've been watching Lauri a lot recently (since EuroBasket) and he's definitely less finesse than when he entered the league. He's a good rebounder, shooter and can handle the ball a bit. Also at 6-11/7 feet he allows the Nets to stay big and match up with any team in league w/o sacrificing shooting.

Would be the perfect fit on this roster. I'd trade Seth + Cam for Lauri easily. I see a contending team trading a FRP + for him.

Lauri has durability issues, pretty much why Bulls gave up on him and took a gamble with Vuc. Other than that he teases teams with high potential here and there. Him playing during summer definitely helping now. I mean all these European guys looking in mid-season form, will fatigue be a factor, we will find out.

Not sure he's obtainable though. Dealing with Danny will definitely mean losing another 1st rounder. Not really going to support that. If Seth and Cam will be enough, I'm all for it. I don't see Nash giving Cam chance or being developed here.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Raptors- 7:30 

Post#128 » by Gooner » Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:18 am

GTR11 wrote:
3pt_chucker wrote:
sashaturiaf wrote:

I think they're both too finesse orientated and thin on the rump for what we need.

Ironically Brook Lopez would be perfect for us at the moment,
Brook
KD
Ben
Royce
Kyrie
non-Nash coach


would be absolutely lethal.


Not sure Brook fits well in our defensive scheme. The Bucs try not to switch too much and play Brook in drop coverage which is not what the Nets want to do. Agree with the non-nash part obviously.

I've been watching Lauri a lot recently (since EuroBasket) and he's definitely less finesse than when he entered the league. He's a good rebounder, shooter and can handle the ball a bit. Also at 6-11/7 feet he allows the Nets to stay big and match up with any team in league w/o sacrificing shooting.

Would be the perfect fit on this roster. I'd trade Seth + Cam for Lauri easily. I see a contending team trading a FRP + for him.

Lauri has durability issues, pretty much why Bulls gave up on him and took a gamble with Vuc. Other than that he teases teams with high potential here and there. Him playing during summer definitely helping now. I mean all these European guys looking in mid-season form, will fatigue be a factor, we will find out.

Not sure he's obtainable though. Dealing with Danny will definitely mean losing another 1st rounder. Not really going to support that. If Seth and Cam will be enough, I'm all for it. I don't see Nash giving Cam chance or being developed here.


Markkanen is too big of a fish for Nets to get. He is one of the building blocks in Utah.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Raptors- 7:30 

Post#129 » by Papi_swav » Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:19 pm

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Papi_swav wrote:We're definitely not big enough at all. Maybe height wise we are but weight wise we're lacking. Claxton is still too light for centers. And Ben is not tough enough to fight for position down low, and KD is a twig. Sharpe is not there yet either, we shouldn't have to depend on a 3rd sting G league player to contribute alot on a contending team. We need a big, point blank period.


Golden State is not big enough, but they are the most dominant team of this era. You play big if you have strong big men. When you have Simmons and a bunch of shooters on the roster, you should play small most of the time.

This. GS imposes their will on the game and plays opposing bigs off the court. There's no opposing big in the East that I am changing the roster construction or philosophy for. That includes Embiid who will assert dominance in the post for a quarter and then get gassed and hoist up 3s for the rest of the game.

If you're talking something like the Mayo rumored deal of Harris+Claxton+Cam for Ayton, where you're clearly upgrading the position, consider it. Just adding another rotation big? No.

You guys fail to realize that GS has a guy named Draymond Green who is the toughest player in the NBA now, he imposes his toughness on centers. He's like Ben wallace or Dennis Rodman, now ofcourse he isn't as great as those guys but when you have an "ENFORCER" like I've been saying, then you can get away with not having a legit center. But we don't have that guy on our roster , Clax is not that guy and Ben is far far from that type of player.

I've been saying we need an Enforcer down low to impose our will, this is why we get beat up in the paint and in the playoffs when the games slow down, teams will zero in on this and just keep punching it in on us in the paint just like the Pelicans did. I'm not saying just go after any center that his 7 feet and fat, but a guy that can hold the paint down with his brute toughness.

GS is not the blueprint, we can't model ourselves after them because they have guys that make everything click and Draymond is a huge part of that culture, which is why he can put up triple singles and he's still in the top lineup of the league. Rockets tried to do what GS did and look how that came out, several teams are trying to be like GS but it doesn't work without that Draymond piece. I get it , we don't have Shaq centers anymore but we still need a guy downlow that imposes his will . Clax, Ben and KD is not that, what makes those guys great is that they can play solid defense on the perimeter AND they can switch to guard wings and guards and the perimeter but downlow they will get beat up. Teams are going to figure us out and just keep attacking the paint.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Raptors- 7:30 

Post#130 » by Papi_swav » Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:25 pm

I think Dieng on the Spurs would be fine and obtainable. I like Holmes from Sac too.

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