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Re: Nash and Nets mutually agreed to part ways. 11.1.22 

Post#81 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Nov 1, 2022 9:23 pm

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jibba jones wrote:I actually think the Celtics just want to get rid of Udoka and not have to pay his salary...

What that suggests is not very positive...


Yep.


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This isn't going to end well. Most likely once everything is official, all the dirt will come out on Ime in the media which will make the Nets look even worse....which is hard to fathom given what has happened over the last 72 hours.


There was already reporting done on this, that seemed to indicate he had "crude" language to a subordinate. The inappropriate behavior was seemingly directed at a VPs wife, which would explain why it's not a repariable situation.

There has been nothing to indicate that it was anything worse.

Everyone wants to be moral police and I get it but if that's all there is, no reason he shouldn't be a head coach. Only a big deal because he went to the Nets.



It was just a prediction on my part.

All I'm saying is, don't be shocked if leaks start happening and this blows up in their faces, just like every other thing that has happened ever since Kyrie and KD joined the team.
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Re: Nash and Nets mutually agreed to part ways. 11.1.22 

Post#82 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Nov 1, 2022 9:24 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:
jibba jones wrote:I actually think the Celtics just want to get rid of Udoka and not have to pay his salary...

What that suggests is not very positive...


Yep.


Read on Twitter



This isn't going to end well. Most likely once everything is official, all the dirt will come out on Ime in the media which will make the Nets look even worse....which is hard to fathom given what has happened over the last 72 hours.

Now I really want to know what happened.... i mean those red flags aren't that far fetched...

if something comes out, I hope the Nets protect themselves.

But what could it possibly be? i have to imagine anything of the forced/against the will type advances or acts would've terminated his ass on the spot. So that gives me some hope it isn't in that dark lighting.(atm)


The article on NetsDaily is stating that apparently what Udoka was doing involves more than one female staff member. Who knows
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Post#83 » by Hello Brooklyn » Tue Nov 1, 2022 9:32 pm

Christmas came early this year.

I am elated by this news.

Steve Nash ruined the Nets. Its not just that he is a pushover who can't get any respect from the players.

He was CLUELESS about how to coach. Thats what happens when you hire a coach with no experience. You have to earn your stripes.

I have been begging for weeks for Marks to fire Nash and hire Udoka. Better late than never.

Udoka is a brilliant coach. What he did with Boston last year was remarkable.

If ANYONE in the league can unlock this team's talent it is him. He will figure out how to make this team work.

I'm pretty sure Marks has been working on this with Udoka for weeks and saw this poor start as the perfect time to do it.

Nash was the worst coach I have ever seen in my life. Never have I seen a team with this much talent clueless about what to do game after game.

Call me clueless but IM BACK IN on the Brooklyn Nets!!!

Were winning the East. In Udoka we trust.
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Re: Nash and Nets mutually agreed to part ways. 11.1.22 

Post#84 » by Stone » Tue Nov 1, 2022 11:29 pm

We can put the myth that "You only need a coach to manage the personality's". I don't care how many stars you got, you still need a coach.

I also believe that because recently we saw a lot of first year rookie coaches winning chips that Nash got a pass on having no coaching experience .

We already saw how a new head coach could reinvigorate a team like Lawrence Frank. He/we started off winning the first 14 games. But it wasn't too much longer until the cracks in the armor showed up and everyone turned on him.

It is a next coach up league........

Steve Nash I hope he get's a chance to work his way back into to another head coach position if he wants to.

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Post#85 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed Nov 2, 2022 1:03 am

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Post#86 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed Nov 2, 2022 1:11 am

Stone wrote:We can put the myth that "You only need a coach to manage the personality's". I don't care how many stars you got, you still need a coach.

I also believe that because recently we saw a lot of first year rookie coaches winning chips that Nash got a pass on having no coaching experience .

We already saw how a new head coach could reinvigorate a team like Lawrence Frank. He/we started off winning the first 14 games. But it wasn't too much longer until the cracks in the armor showed up and everyone turned on him.

It is a next coach up league........

Steve Nash I hope he get's a chance to work his way back into to another head coach position if he wants to.

Turn the page


I don’t care , he could buy one way ticket on Elan Musk tours for Mars and vanish from this universe

Wishing Nash good coaching carrier on another team it’s as close as teaching my dog speak , good riddance TRASH
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Post#87 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed Nov 2, 2022 1:22 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Christmas came early this year.

I am elated by this news.

Steve Nash ruined the Nets. Its not just that he is a pushover who can't get any respect from the players.

He was CLUELESS about how to coach. Thats what happens when you hire a coach with no experience. You have to earn your stripes.

I have been begging for weeks for Marks to fire Nash and hire Udoka. Better late than never.

Udoka is a brilliant coach. What he did with Boston last year was remarkable.

If ANYONE in the league can unlock this team's talent it is him. He will figure out how to make this team work.

I'm pretty sure Marks has been working on this with Udoka for weeks and saw this poor start as the perfect time to do it.

Nash was the worst coach I have ever seen in my life. Never have I seen a team with this much talent clueless about what to do game after game.

Call me clueless but IM BACK IN on the Brooklyn Nets!!!

Were winning the East. In Udoka we trust.


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Re: Nash and Nets mutually agreed to part ways. 11.1.22 

Post#88 » by BKlutch » Wed Nov 2, 2022 4:47 pm

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sonnyhill wrote:Maybe now is the time for the Nets to go "all-in" on and "double-down" on its commitment to both KD and Kyrie and hire Kyrie as player-coach. Instead of trying to "manage" Kyrie, how about giving him more responsibility and authority and force him to hold himself accountable for wins-and-losses?

If anyone was ever born to be the perfect "Ben Simmons 'horse-whisperer,'" it is Kyrie Irving.


It might be time for Joe Tsai to open his third eye.

Genocide Joe (so-called because of his ESPN interview, wherein he dismissed concerns over China's genocide of the Uyghurs because "they treat 90% of their people well") allowed KI to distrupt the team and dictate its direction. Nash, a weak and inexperienced coach, was the replacement for Kenny Atkinson, the coach KI and KD fired. He was allowed to twist in the wind without any support.

Stats show a higher win % when Kyrie wasn't playing than when he was. So why is he given this authority?

What about the relationship between Kyrie and Clara Tsai? What about the numerous relatives and associates of Kyrie she has put on the Nets' payroll? Why have his Lakota colleagues (is this the army he referred to?) been allowed to provide "private security" that twice disrupted tennis games she attended (once where they clashed with Michele Obama's Secret Service security) and a basketball game?

How about how shabbily Clara Tsai has treated Mr. Whammy, the World's Best Nets Fan™ ? Why have BIg Perk, Chuck, Tommy Beer, and so many of the best reporters called for massive housecleaning?

Of course, Joe is suddenly keeping KI quiet and hidden from the press. At the same time, he banished Clara and her posse from the games in Brooklyn and he is now consulting with the Anti-Defamation League. I believe that, following the precedent of Myers Leonard suspension in Atlanta, Tsai accepted counsel from Silver and made these moves.

And what about Marks, who traded away what amounts to a championship team for the triple threat of KI, KDiva, and Jordan (not Michael)? What kind of front office leader is he?

KDiva has alredy been giving shyt to Patty Mills and Joe Harris. Why? The story just continues to get worse.

Which team would be willing to sign Flatso (his flat-shaming name) Irving after all he's done to the Nets?
Which team wants to give two stars and a couple of first round picks for KDiva, who has not shown any leadership on the floor and has shown very poor judgment in friends and twitter-fights?

It was not so long ago that everyone conceded the championship to Brooklyn. Was none of what happened since foreseeable?
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Re: Nash and Nets mutually agreed to part ways. 11.1.22 

Post#89 » by sonnyhill » Wed Nov 2, 2022 5:08 pm

BKlutch wrote:
MGrand15 wrote:
sonnyhill wrote:Maybe now is the time for the Nets to go "all-in" on and "double-down" on its commitment to both KD and Kyrie and hire Kyrie as player-coach. Instead of trying to "manage" Kyrie, how about giving him more responsibility and authority and force him to hold himself accountable for wins-and-losses?

If anyone was ever born to be the perfect "Ben Simmons 'horse-whisperer,'" it is Kyrie Irving.


It might be time for Joe Tsai to open his third eye.

Genocide Joe (so-called because of his ESPN interview, wherein he dismissed concerns over China's genocide of the Uyghurs because "they treat 90% of their people well") allowed KI to distrupt the team and dictate its direction. Nash, a weak and inexperienced coach, was the replacement for Kenny Atkinson, the coach KI and KD fired. He was allowed to twist in the wind without any support.

Stats show a higher win % when Kyrie wasn't playing than when he was. So why is he given this authority?

What about the relationship between Kyrie and Clara Tsai? What about the numerous relatives and associates of Kyrie she has put on the Nets' payroll? Why have his Lakota colleagues (is this the army he referred to?) been allowed to provide "private security" that twice disrupted tennis games she attended (once where they clashed with Michele Obama's Secret Service security) and a basketball game?

How about how shabbily Clara Tsai has treated Mr. Whammy, the World's Best Nets Fan™ ? Why have BIg Perk, Chuck, Tommy Beer, and so many of the best reporters called for massive housecleaning?

Of course, Joe is suddenly keeping KI quiet and hidden from the press. At the same time, he banished Clara and her posse from the games in Brooklyn and he is now consulting with the Anti-Defamation League. I believe that, following the precedent of Myers Leonard suspension in Atlanta, Tsai accepted counsel from Silver and made these moves.

And what about Marks, who traded away what amounts to a championship team for the triple threat of KI, KDiva, and Jordan (not Michael)? What kind of front office leader is he?

KDiva has alredy been giving shyt to Patty Mills and Joe Harris. Why? The story just continues to get worse.

Which team would be willing to sign Flatso (his flat-shaming name) Irving after all he's done to the Nets?
Which team wants to give two stars and a couple of first round picks for KDiva, who has not shown any leadership on the floor and has shown very poor judgment in friends and twitter-fights?

It was not so long ago that everyone conceded the championship to Brooklyn. Was none of what happened since foreseeable?


How about focusing on vetting ideas and suggestions on how to improve the Nets instead of spewing all of your negative vitriol?

You seem to be very negative on Kyrie, Clara Tsai, Joe Tsai, and Kevin Durant; yet, you offer no suggestions on how to improve the team.

Are you pining for the Nash era to continue, an era where this Nash-coached Nets team played no defense and looked lost in its half-court offense?

Similar to how former President Trump had appealed to Black voters during the 2016 election with his rhetorical question, "what have you got to lose;" I would ask Nets fans the same thing when considering empowering Kyrie to become player-coach. Kyrie is the leader of the team, is playing for a new contract, and Kyrie just may be the catalyst for this Nets team to become a serious threat to win the Eastern Conference.
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Post#90 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Nov 2, 2022 5:43 pm

BKlutch wrote:What about the relationship between Kyrie and Clara Tsai? What about the numerous relatives and associates of Kyrie she has put on the Nets' payroll? Why have his Lakota colleagues (is this the army he referred to?) been allowed to provide "private security" that twice disrupted tennis games she attended (once where they clashed with Michele Obama's Secret Service security) and a basketball game?

How about how shabbily Clara Tsai has treated Mr. Whammy, the World's Best Nets Fan™ ? Why have BIg Perk, Chuck, Tommy Beer, and so many of the best reporters called for massive housecleaning?

Of course, Joe is suddenly keeping KI quiet and hidden from the press. At the same time, he banished Clara and her posse from the games in Brooklyn and he is now consulting with the Anti-Defamation League. I believe that, following the precedent of Myers Leonard suspension in Atlanta, Tsai accepted counsel from Silver and made these moves.



Wait, WHAT??? Where is this information coming from? Details please :o

NONE of this would surprise me. Jesus christ
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Post#91 » by Stone » Wed Nov 2, 2022 6:29 pm

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
Stone wrote:We can put the myth that "You only need a coach to manage the personality's". I don't care how many stars you got, you still need a coach.

I also believe that because recently we saw a lot of first year rookie coaches winning chips that Nash got a pass on having no coaching experience .

We already saw how a new head coach could reinvigorate a team like Lawrence Frank. He/we started off winning the first 14 games. But it wasn't too much longer until the cracks in the armor showed up and everyone turned on him.

It is a next coach up league........

Steve Nash I hope he get's a chance to work his way back into to another head coach position if he wants to.

Turn the page


I don’t care , he could buy one way ticket on Elan Musk tours for Mars and vanish from this universe

Wishing Nash good coaching carrier on another team it’s as close as teaching my dog speak , good riddance TRASH


Extremely childish response.
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Post#92 » by MGrand15 » Wed Nov 2, 2022 6:29 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
BKlutch wrote:What about the relationship between Kyrie and Clara Tsai? What about the numerous relatives and associates of Kyrie she has put on the Nets' payroll? Why have his Lakota colleagues (is this the army he referred to?) been allowed to provide "private security" that twice disrupted tennis games she attended (once where they clashed with Michele Obama's Secret Service security) and a basketball game?

How about how shabbily Clara Tsai has treated Mr. Whammy, the World's Best Nets Fan™ ? Why have BIg Perk, Chuck, Tommy Beer, and so many of the best reporters called for massive housecleaning?

Of course, Joe is suddenly keeping KI quiet and hidden from the press. At the same time, he banished Clara and her posse from the games in Brooklyn and he is now consulting with the Anti-Defamation League. I believe that, following the precedent of Myers Leonard suspension in Atlanta, Tsai accepted counsel from Silver and made these moves.



Wait, WHAT??? Where is this information coming from? Details please :o

NONE of this would surprise me. Jesus christ


I would love to see some sources on any of this.
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Re: Nash and Nets mutually agreed to part ways. 11.1.22 

Post#93 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed Nov 2, 2022 8:19 pm

Stone wrote:
ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
Stone wrote:We can put the myth that "You only need a coach to manage the personality's". I don't care how many stars you got, you still need a coach.

I also believe that because recently we saw a lot of first year rookie coaches winning chips that Nash got a pass on having no coaching experience .

We already saw how a new head coach could reinvigorate a team like Lawrence Frank. He/we started off winning the first 14 games. But it wasn't too much longer until the cracks in the armor showed up and everyone turned on him.

It is a next coach up league........

Steve Nash I hope he get's a chance to work his way back into to another head coach position if he wants to.

Turn the page


I don’t care , he could buy one way ticket on Elan Musk tours for Mars and vanish from this universe

Wishing Nash good coaching carrier on another team it’s as close as teaching my dog speak , good riddance TRASH


Extremely childish response.


Wishing Nash get back to coaching another team is hypocrisy at its best , it’s like you sucked here but try to suck some more somewhere else LOL
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Post#94 » by BKlutch » Wed Nov 2, 2022 8:41 pm

sonnyhill wrote:
BKlutch wrote:
MGrand15 wrote:
It might be time for Joe Tsai to open his third eye.

Genocide Joe (so-called because of his ESPN interview, wherein he dismissed concerns over China's genocide of the Uyghurs because "they treat 90% of their people well") allowed KI to distrupt the team and dictate its direction. Nash, a weak and inexperienced coach, was the replacement for Kenny Atkinson, the coach KI and KD fired. He was allowed to twist in the wind without any support.

Stats show a higher win % when Kyrie wasn't playing than when he was. So why is he given this authority?

What about the relationship between Kyrie and Clara Tsai? What about the numerous relatives and associates of Kyrie she has put on the Nets' payroll? Why have his Lakota colleagues (is this the army he referred to?) been allowed to provide "private security" that twice disrupted tennis games she attended (once where they clashed with Michele Obama's Secret Service security) and a basketball game?

How about how shabbily Clara Tsai has treated Mr. Whammy, the World's Best Nets Fan™ ? Why have BIg Perk, Chuck, Tommy Beer, and so many of the best reporters called for massive housecleaning?

Of course, Joe is suddenly keeping KI quiet and hidden from the press. At the same time, he banished Clara and her posse from the games in Brooklyn and he is now consulting with the Anti-Defamation League. I believe that, following the precedent of Myers Leonard suspension in Atlanta, Tsai accepted counsel from Silver and made these moves.

And what about Marks, who traded away what amounts to a championship team for the triple threat of KI, KDiva, and Jordan (not Michael)? What kind of front office leader is he?

KDiva has alredy been giving shyt to Patty Mills and Joe Harris. Why? The story just continues to get worse.

Which team would be willing to sign Flatso (his flat-shaming name) Irving after all he's done to the Nets?
Which team wants to give two stars and a couple of first round picks for KDiva, who has not shown any leadership on the floor and has shown very poor judgment in friends and twitter-fights?

It was not so long ago that everyone conceded the championship to Brooklyn. Was none of what happened since foreseeable?


How about focusing on vetting ideas and suggestions on how to improve the Nets instead of spewing all of your negative vitriol?

You seem to be very negative on Kyrie, Clara Tsai, Joe Tsai, and Kevin Durant; yet, you offer no suggestions on how to improve the team.

Are you pining for the Nash era to continue, an era where this Nash-coached Nets team played no defense and looked lost in its half-court offense?

Similar to how former President Trump had appealed to Black voters during the 2016 election with his rhetorical question, "what have you got to lose;" I would ask Nets fans the same thing when considering empowering Kyrie to become player-coach. Kyrie is the leader of the team, is playing for a new contract, and Kyrie just may be the catalyst for this Nets team to become a serious threat to win the Eastern Conference.

Sorry if I was so unclear that you think that's what I said. To put it another way, the team has done better with Kyrie not playing than with him playing (won - lost record). KD and KI are kind of a package, right? KI announced that he or KD could be the coach and they didn't need an official coach at the beginning of Nash's tenure. Do you think they will both suddenly develop new, better characters now that Nash has been put out of his misery?

Want an idea? Sure -- how about cleaning house. Fire Marks, trade KD an KI, rebuild with the new coach (who is undeniably talented as a coach).

Or wait for KI to find another reason not to play, more people to hurt, and more demands from KDiva. A good coach can only coach players who want to be coached.
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Post#95 » by sonnyhill » Wed Nov 2, 2022 9:16 pm

BKlutch wrote:
sonnyhill wrote:
BKlutch wrote:Genocide Joe (so-called because of his ESPN interview, wherein he dismissed concerns over China's genocide of the Uyghurs because "they treat 90% of their people well") allowed KI to distrupt the team and dictate its direction. Nash, a weak and inexperienced coach, was the replacement for Kenny Atkinson, the coach KI and KD fired. He was allowed to twist in the wind without any support.

Stats show a higher win % when Kyrie wasn't playing than when he was. So why is he given this authority?

What about the relationship between Kyrie and Clara Tsai? What about the numerous relatives and associates of Kyrie she has put on the Nets' payroll? Why have his Lakota colleagues (is this the army he referred to?) been allowed to provide "private security" that twice disrupted tennis games she attended (once where they clashed with Michele Obama's Secret Service security) and a basketball game?

How about how shabbily Clara Tsai has treated Mr. Whammy, the World's Best Nets Fan™ ? Why have BIg Perk, Chuck, Tommy Beer, and so many of the best reporters called for massive housecleaning?

Of course, Joe is suddenly keeping KI quiet and hidden from the press. At the same time, he banished Clara and her posse from the games in Brooklyn and he is now consulting with the Anti-Defamation League. I believe that, following the precedent of Myers Leonard suspension in Atlanta, Tsai accepted counsel from Silver and made these moves.

And what about Marks, who traded away what amounts to a championship team for the triple threat of KI, KDiva, and Jordan (not Michael)? What kind of front office leader is he?

KDiva has alredy been giving shyt to Patty Mills and Joe Harris. Why? The story just continues to get worse.

Which team would be willing to sign Flatso (his flat-shaming name) Irving after all he's done to the Nets?
Which team wants to give two stars and a couple of first round picks for KDiva, who has not shown any leadership on the floor and has shown very poor judgment in friends and twitter-fights?

It was not so long ago that everyone conceded the championship to Brooklyn. Was none of what happened since foreseeable?


How about focusing on vetting ideas and suggestions on how to improve the Nets instead of spewing all of your negative vitriol?

You seem to be very negative on Kyrie, Clara Tsai, Joe Tsai, and Kevin Durant; yet, you offer no suggestions on how to improve the team.

Are you pining for the Nash era to continue, an era where this Nash-coached Nets team played no defense and looked lost in its half-court offense?

Similar to how former President Trump had appealed to Black voters during the 2016 election with his rhetorical question, "what have you got to lose;" I would ask Nets fans the same thing when considering empowering Kyrie to become player-coach. Kyrie is the leader of the team, is playing for a new contract, and Kyrie just may be the catalyst for this Nets team to become a serious threat to win the Eastern Conference.

Sorry if I was so unclear that you think that's what I said. To put it another way, the team has done better with Kyrie not playing than with him playing (won - lost record). KD and KI are kind of a package, right? KI announced that he or KD could be the coach and they didn't need an official coach at the beginning of Nash's tenure. Do you think they will both suddenly develop new, better characters now that Nash has been put out of his misery?

Want an idea? Sure -- how about cleaning house. Fire Marks, trade KD an KI, rebuild with the new coach (who is undeniably talented as a coach).

Or wait for KI to find another reason not to play, more people to hurt, and more demands from KDiva. A good coach can only coach players who want to be coached.


Thank you for clarifying.

Having both Kyrie and KD on the roster allows for the Nets to compete for a championship.

With Kyrie having "announced that he or KD could be the coach and they didn't need an official coach at the beginning of Nash's tenure," would it not make sense to hold Kyrie's feet to the fire and actually have him take on the role of player-coach? Also, after getting swept in last year's playoffs to the Celtics, Kyrie said that he also wants a hand in the day-to-day operations of the “franchise” — not just the team—calling it a “co-management relationship.”

“When I say I’m here with Kevin (Durant), I think that it really entails us managing this franchise together alongside Joe (Tsai) and Sean (Marks),” Irving stated, “and just our group of family members that we have in our locker room, in our organization.

Going full rebuild right now will not allow for the Nets to get full value in return for Kyrie and KD in the trade market.

I agree with you 100% on "A good coach can only coach players who want to be coached." Kyrie is the leader of this roster; he is the one person who can coach this team to compete for a championship.
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Post#96 » by BKlutch » Wed Nov 2, 2022 9:35 pm

sonnyhill wrote:
BKlutch wrote:
sonnyhill wrote:
How about focusing on vetting ideas and suggestions on how to improve the Nets instead of spewing all of your negative vitriol?

You seem to be very negative on Kyrie, Clara Tsai, Joe Tsai, and Kevin Durant; yet, you offer no suggestions on how to improve the team.

Are you pining for the Nash era to continue, an era where this Nash-coached Nets team played no defense and looked lost in its half-court offense?

Similar to how former President Trump had appealed to Black voters during the 2016 election with his rhetorical question, "what have you got to lose;" I would ask Nets fans the same thing when considering empowering Kyrie to become player-coach. Kyrie is the leader of the team, is playing for a new contract, and Kyrie just may be the catalyst for this Nets team to become a serious threat to win the Eastern Conference.

Sorry if I was so unclear that you think that's what I said. To put it another way, the team has done better with Kyrie not playing than with him playing (won - lost record). KD and KI are kind of a package, right? KI announced that he or KD could be the coach and they didn't need an official coach at the beginning of Nash's tenure. Do you think they will both suddenly develop new, better characters now that Nash has been put out of his misery?

Want an idea? Sure -- how about cleaning house. Fire Marks, trade KD an KI, rebuild with the new coach (who is undeniably talented as a coach).

Or wait for KI to find another reason not to play, more people to hurt, and more demands from KDiva. A good coach can only coach players who want to be coached.


Thank you for clarifying.

Having both Kyrie and KD on the roster allows for the Nets to compete for a championship.

With Kyrie having "announced that he or KD could be the coach and they didn't need an official coach at the beginning of Nash's tenure," would it not make sense to hold Kyrie's feet to the fire and actually have him take on the role of player-coach? Also, after getting swept in last year's playoffs to the Celtics, Kyrie said that he also wants a hand in the day-to-day operations of the “franchise” — not just the team—calling it a “co-management relationship.”

“When I say I’m here with Kevin (Durant), I think that it really entails us managing this franchise together alongside Joe (Tsai) and Sean (Marks),” Irving stated, “and just our group of family members that we have in our locker room, in our organization.

Going full rebuild right now will not allow for the Nets to get full value in return for Kyrie and KD in the trade market.

I agree with you 100% on "A good coach can only coach players who want to be coached." Kyrie is the leader of this roster; he is the one person who can coach this team to compete for a championship.

He's one of the most talented guards in the league, top 3 at least. But he's deeply crazy - see Wiretap article up now saying the entire league considers him radioactive. That's because despite his talent, he may not help a team win. And because of all the non-basketball issues.
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Re: Nash and Nets mutually agreed to part ways. 11.1.22 

Post#97 » by Stone » Thu Nov 3, 2022 4:15 pm

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
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I don’t care , he could buy one way ticket on Elan Musk tours for Mars and vanish from this universe

Wishing Nash good coaching carrier on another team it’s as close as teaching my dog speak , good riddance TRASH


Extremely childish response.


Wishing Nash get back to coaching another team is hypocrisy at its best , it’s like you sucked here but try to suck some more somewhere else LOL


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Re: Nash and Nets mutually agreed to part ways. 11.1.22 

Post#98 » by sonnyhill » Thu Nov 3, 2022 4:46 pm

BKlutch wrote:
sonnyhill wrote:
BKlutch wrote:Sorry if I was so unclear that you think that's what I said. To put it another way, the team has done better with Kyrie not playing than with him playing (won - lost record). KD and KI are kind of a package, right? KI announced that he or KD could be the coach and they didn't need an official coach at the beginning of Nash's tenure. Do you think they will both suddenly develop new, better characters now that Nash has been put out of his misery?

Want an idea? Sure -- how about cleaning house. Fire Marks, trade KD an KI, rebuild with the new coach (who is undeniably talented as a coach).

Or wait for KI to find another reason not to play, more people to hurt, and more demands from KDiva. A good coach can only coach players who want to be coached.


Thank you for clarifying.

Having both Kyrie and KD on the roster allows for the Nets to compete for a championship.

With Kyrie having "announced that he or KD could be the coach and they didn't need an official coach at the beginning of Nash's tenure," would it not make sense to hold Kyrie's feet to the fire and actually have him take on the role of player-coach? Also, after getting swept in last year's playoffs to the Celtics, Kyrie said that he also wants a hand in the day-to-day operations of the “franchise” — not just the team—calling it a “co-management relationship.”

“When I say I’m here with Kevin (Durant), I think that it really entails us managing this franchise together alongside Joe (Tsai) and Sean (Marks),” Irving stated, “and just our group of family members that we have in our locker room, in our organization.

Going full rebuild right now will not allow for the Nets to get full value in return for Kyrie and KD in the trade market.

I agree with you 100% on "A good coach can only coach players who want to be coached." Kyrie is the leader of this roster; he is the one person who can coach this team to compete for a championship.

He's one of the most talented guards in the league, top 3 at least. But he's deeply crazy - see Wiretap article up now saying the entire league considers him radioactive. That's because despite his talent, he may not help a team win. And because of all the non-basketball issues.


I don't disagree with your analysis.

However, with the current construction of this Nets team roster, fully embracing "...deeply crazy" may, indeed, be the only way to get this team to perform at a high level.

KD and Kyrie are two of the most talented players in the league, are top 75 all time talents, but do not respond well to "traditional" organizational structure, including coaching. Instead of fighting this, the Nets should go all-in on KD and Kyrie and let them co-coach the team as player-coaches.

What do the Nets have to lose? The upside would be tremendous.

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