Nets vs Sixers

[ChuckS]

This is why you need franchise player like Curry, LBJ, Giannis etc who not only exceptional talent but the leader of the man.

KD is great player, but he's a second fiddle guy. He will never win chip as a lead guy. He never did, he never will.

Kyrie is Kyrie. Any team he's been on either imploded or underachieved. Combination of both happened in Boston and here. Only player that was able to hold him in check for one damn year is washed up and cares about life outside the NBA now.

Ben... the jury is still up on him. I just don't believe in him at all. He is more talented version of Dray who's not as good of a leader.

Tell me which coach or GM can handle this clowns? Pop's? That ain't happening. Ime? He got issues himself. Who...?

I thought that there were great observations and analysis in this thread. I don't always subscribe to the more nebulous interpretations based on general player appearances, but to each his own. I think you seem to be faulting the three players, who probably were somewhat less than their optimum, but had the least to do with this loss.

I will attribute much of this, and it will seem arrogant to question someone with the basketball pedigree of Charles Barkley, to what I believe is his stupid bus driver analogy. How can that be said of the person who won two finals MVP's competing on the same floor with and against players like Steph, Klay, Draymond, LeBron, and Kyrie. Add to that his FIBA Gold Medal MVP and three other medals. Ask Popovich or Kerr about his leadership. Steph, Draymond, and Klay have also already spoken to this. In spite of his excellence, IMHO, compared to KD, Charles would be sweeping out the bus after the ride.

Our starting lineup had 77 points compared to the Philly starters' 68 points. They were only out-rebounded by three. Kyrie was the leading back-court scorer. He was second only to Harris, and shot 56%, after a long layoff. KD shot 64% but should have ISO'd more when playing with the subs. Our bench went 7 for 23 (even with Curry's 5 for 12), 30%, with only six rebounds. The Philly bench went 16 for 30, 53%, with 21 rebounds. (I omitted the "garbage time" subs.)

I will exempt no one from the horrible defense or rebounding. Although I think the latter is a problem of team structure. And I am not a hater, so I will not assign blame for loss of this game. I will reiterate, though, that KD, Kyrie, and Ben are, in my opinion, the least of our problems.

[CalamityX12]

Didn't see the game but was Kyrie engaged or how did he play?

Kyrie had a quiet 23 points. He show zero leadership or emotion. It was like looking at a guy at work staring at his watch waiting for the day to end to get the hell out of there.

Joe was abysmal. I still think he needs time get his game back after the injury, surgery's and time off but he really needs to be better.

KD had an off night one had attempt or maybe 2 from 3. But it was his overall effort on both ends that was subpar. His worst outing of the year.

Ben was the only bright spot. He came out of the locker room first to face the Philly crowd. He got involved on both ends and did a lot of things that don't show up in the boxscores.

I am still puzzled on why JV pulled our guys with 3:00 minutes left being down by I think 10 points. I get that we play 5 games in 7 nights but is 3 minutes going to really make that big a difference?

thank you!

I hate Kyrie's body language, it affects the squad. How is he not hustling or making some in game moves to change the pace/outcome? why are you being paid for so much?!?!

I think KD is not invested and will teat it as such. **** stupid but maybe fatigue?

Joe needs to be dealt, its becoming a tired act with him from me... maybe still recovering but the 3pt shot shouldn't be in jeopardy and his confidence is shot and buried 6 ft under.

Good to hear Ben is improving still.

Why JV pull out the guys with 3 mins? that's quite the head scratcher... it wasn't out of reach unless the body language was purely dreadful.

Did yuta play?

[Hello Brooklyn]

Not having a backup Center is not going to work if we keep getting killed on rebounds.

Marks has really **** up in a massive way. I thought the plan was to play Sharpe.

If not then get another backup Center. We won't win without being able to rebound.

Times like this i honestly miss Drummond.

[OfficialRef]

Sean Marks should have zero confidence from this fanbase right now. Zero. The MLE sat unused while he failed to address the lack of size upfront.

He tries to be too cute with the signings and dances around the teams needs.

Last year it was no wings and he did nothing to address it. This season its bigs. Theres no excuse either since Howard was available the whole time.

It’s not to late to sign a big or trade for a big with 64 games left, but because the Nets have always been incompetent, they never fail to let us down.

I honestly blame the FO and Nash for the teams problems than Durant and Irving.

The roster has been pretty trash even dating back to the Harden days. I wish Tsai fulfilled KDs requests and fired Nash and Marks in the offseason. Nash being gone has been an improvement on the team but Marks has screwed it up still.

[OfficialRef]

Said it before and I'll keep saying it: Joe Harris is a bum and the team won't go anywhere with him making such a huge salary and playing so many minutes.

Not only is he below average in every attribute besides shooting, but he has very low IQ and is a prone choker. He NEVER has good games against elite teams or can make game changing shots. The team must absolutely trade him before the deadline for anything.

[GTR11]

This is why you need franchise player like Curry, LBJ, Giannis etc who not only exceptional talent but the leader of the man.

KD is great player, but he's a second fiddle guy. He will never win chip as a lead guy. He never did, he never will.

Kyrie is Kyrie. Any team he's been on either imploded or underachieved. Combination of both happened in Boston and here. Only player that was able to hold him in check for one damn year is washed up and cares about life outside the NBA now.

Ben... the jury is still up on him. I just don't believe in him at all. He is more talented version of Dray who's not as good of a leader.

Tell me which coach or GM can handle this clowns? Pop's? That ain't happening. Ime? He got issues himself. Who...?

I thought that there were great observations and analysis in this thread. I don't always subscribe to the more nebulous interpretations based on general player appearances, but to each his own. I think you seem to be faulting the three players, who probably were somewhat less than their optimum, but had the least to do with this loss.

I will attribute much of this, and it will seem arrogant to question someone with the basketball pedigree of Charles Barkley, to what I believe is his stupid bus driver analogy. How can that be said of the person who won two finals MVP's competing on the same floor with and against players like Steph, Klay, Draymond, LeBron, and Kyrie. Add to that his FIBA Gold Medal MVP and three other medals. Ask Popovich or Kerr about his leadership. Steph, Draymond, and Klay have also already spoken to this. In spite of his excellence, IMHO, compared to KD, Charles would be sweeping out the bus after the ride.

Our starting lineup had 77 points compared to the Philly starters' 68 points. They were only out-rebounded by three. Kyrie was the leading back-court scorer. He was second only to Harris, and shot 56%, after a long layoff. KD shot 64% but should have ISO'd more when playing with the subs. Our bench went 7 for 23 (even with Curry's 5 for 12), 30%, with only six rebounds. The Philly bench went 16 for 30, 53%, with 21 rebounds. (I omitted the "garbage time" subs.)

I will exempt no one from the horrible defense or rebounding. Although I think the latter is a problem of team structure. And I am not a hater, so I will not assign blame for loss of this game. I will reiterate, though, that KD, Kyrie, and Ben are, in my opinion, the least of our problems.

Until you step back and look at entire picture with sober analysis, I can provide 100's of facts and you still won't agree. As fan it'll be understandable but as a person who wants to keep it 100 you will know you in a wrong here.

Those numbers needs to be put into context, what you did was miss represent it to fit your narrative.

Be real here. This is mediocre rotational players they lost to. Not only they should've scored more, they should have made role players like Joe, Seth etc players better. They got their ass whipped by scrubs in embarrassing fashion.

[GTR11]

Said it before and I'll keep saying it: Joe Harris is a bum and the team won't go anywhere with him making such a huge salary and playing so many minutes.

Not only is he below average in every attribute besides shooting, but he has very low IQ and is a prone choker. He NEVER has good games against elite teams or can make game changing shots. The team must absolutely trade him before the deadline for anything.

Joe was a product of Kenny's system. Very useful player that showed to be productive and data backs it up.

There is a lot of things that needs to happen for Joe become beef jerky Joe again. Sadly I agree, it has to be elsewhere for that to happen. This dumpsterfire needs hungry players that playing for their life in order to be successful. Pretty much in spite of, not because of.

[Stone]

Joe was a product of Kenny's system. Very useful player that showed to be productive and data backs it up.

There is a lot of things that needs to happen for Joe become beef jerky Joe again. Sadly I agree, it has to be elsewhere for that to happen. This dumpsterfire needs hungery players that are playing for their life in order to be successful.. Pretty much in spite of, not because of.

That what we saw last night with the players Philly rolled out last night. Hungry and playing with a sense of urgency. There is no doubt that was a winnable game and it spoke volumes of who we are right now as a team.

CalamityX12: Yuta was out with a sore hamstring. He is expected back on the 25TH. Just read Seth is going to be out with an ankle issue until the 25TH also.

[ChuckS]

This is why you need franchise player like Curry, LBJ, Giannis etc who not only exceptional talent but the leader of the man.

KD is great player, but he's a second fiddle guy. He will never win chip as a lead guy. He never did, he never will.

Kyrie is Kyrie. Any team he's been on either imploded or underachieved. Combination of both happened in Boston and here. Only player that was able to hold him in check for one damn year is washed up and cares about life outside the NBA now.

Ben... the jury is still up on him. I just don't believe in him at all. He is more talented version of Dray who's not as good of a leader.

Tell me which coach or GM can handle this clowns? Pop's? That ain't happening. Ime? He got issues himself. Who...?

I thought that there were great observations and analysis in this thread. I don't always subscribe to the more nebulous interpretations based on general player appearances, but to each his own. I think you seem to be faulting the three players, who probably were somewhat less than their optimum, but had the least to do with this loss.

I will attribute much of this, and it will seem arrogant to question someone with the basketball pedigree of Charles Barkley, to what I believe is his stupid bus driver analogy. How can that be said of the person who won two finals MVP's competing on the same floor with and against players like Steph, Klay, Draymond, LeBron, and Kyrie. Add to that his FIBA Gold Medal MVP and three other medals. Ask Popovich or Kerr about his leadership. Steph, Draymond, and Klay have also already spoken to this. In spite of his excellence, IMHO, compared to KD, Charles would be sweeping out the bus after the ride.

Our starting lineup had 77 points compared to the Philly starters' 68 points. They were only out-rebounded by three. Kyrie was the leading back-court scorer. He was second only to Harris, and shot 56%, after a long layoff. KD shot 64% but should have ISO'd more when playing with the subs. Our bench went 7 for 23 (even with Curry's 5 for 12), 30%, with only six rebounds. The Philly bench went 16 for 30, 53%, with 21 rebounds. (I omitted the "garbage time" subs.)

I will exempt no one from the horrible defense or rebounding. Although I think the latter is a problem of team structure. And I am not a hater, so I will not assign blame for loss of this game. I will reiterate, though, that KD, Kyrie, and Ben are, in my opinion, the least of our problems.

Until you step back and look at entire picture with sober analysis, I can provide 100's of facts and you still won't agree. As fan it'll be understandable but as a person who wants to keep it 100 you will know you in a wrong here.

Those numbers needs to be put into context, what you did was miss represent it to fit your narrative.

Be real here. This is mediocre rotational players they lost to. Not only they should've scored more, they should have made role players like Joe, Seth etc players better. They got their ass whipped by scrubs in embarrassing fashion.

I apologize! I rarely do "sober" analysis. And hundreds of facts would just confuse me, so do not bother.

I'm particularly sorry for being devious. I try so hard to hide it. It's a tragic flaw.

I do agree that they should have won and it was embarrassing, particularly on TNT.

I somewhat disagree about role players. The best thing they do is attract defenses allowing open shots. Then it is up to the role player to do what he is being paid $6, $8, or $18 million dollars to do.

Once again, I apologize, and as always will just agree to disagree.

[MrDollarBills]

I can't watch tonight's game sober.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Said it before and I'll keep saying it: Joe Harris is a bum and the team won't go anywhere with him making such a huge salary and playing so many minutes.

Not only is he below average in every attribute besides shooting, but he has very low IQ and is a prone choker. He NEVER has good games against elite teams or can make game changing shots. The team must absolutely trade him before the deadline for anything.

I think I'm done with Harris. Hes supposed to be an elite shooter but he can't shoot.

I wouldn't mind trading him for a big like Clint Capela.

[MrDollarBills]

Said it before and I'll keep saying it: Joe Harris is a bum and the team won't go anywhere with him making such a huge salary and playing so many minutes.

Not only is he below average in every attribute besides shooting, but he has very low IQ and is a prone choker. He NEVER has good games against elite teams or can make game changing shots. The team must absolutely trade him before the deadline for anything.

I think I'm done with Harris. Hes supposed to be an elite shooter but he can't shoot.

I wouldn't mind trading him for a big like Clint Capela.

Joe's legs look shot.

I'll be honest. Yuta should get Joe's mins, Sumner should get Patty's. They are better players.

[NetsWorld]

He tries to be too cute with the signings and dances around the teams needs.

Last year it was no wings and he did nothing to address it. This season its bigs. Theres no excuse either since Howard was available the whole time.

It’s not to late to sign a big or trade for a big with 64 games left, but because the Nets have always been incompetent, they never fail to let us down.

I honestly blame the FO and Nash for the teams problems than Durant and Irving.

The roster has been pretty trash even dating back to the Harden days. I wish Tsai fulfilled KDs requests and fired Nash and Marks in the offseason. Nash being gone has been an improvement on the team but Marks has screwed it up still.

I hope you guys now realize what Marks is really doing, he knows his days are numbered, you guys can connect the dots, he is sabotaging the team deliberately. He himself
doesnt want to be a part of this organization hence he is running it to the ground.