GT: Nets vs Lakers 1/30 - 7:30

[sashaturiaf]

Hard to develop any consistency when coach is firmly riding the hot hand when it comes to dishing out minutes to the bench guys. Out of our guards only Kyrie and Seth are guaranteed minutes, Patty, Sumner and Cam just take what is available depending on the matchup.

Like we all been saying Marks needs to convert one of our shooters into a backup 5, it'll smooth out our backcourt rotation as well as stop us needing to play Sharpe and Morris unless in case of emergency. I think Cam can be a valuable player if you give him a clearly defined role, right now he's not being put in a position to succeed and it's a pretty clear misuse of talent.

That's my thing...it's hard to grade Cam. Like, when he's on the money like last night, he's a massive plus. But when he's not, and statistically we know this to be true, he's a net negative. However, this season, he's shooting 43%FG, 38%3PT and has been pretty efficient when he has gotten minutes the last few games.

The log jam is on Marks, not Vaughn though. It's hard to justify bumping anyone out of the line up when we're all healthy. We need to flip either Seth or Joe for a back up C and that should open up the door for Cam, but I imagine any trade discussions will have to involve Cam since he's the only asset on a rookie contract that has some value.

I hate the idea of moving Joe for a backup C, because that makes the backcourt even smaller. We can't get away with continuing to play Kyrie+Seth together.

Yes I'd much rather trade Seth, Joe I'd only want to let go for a true impact player.

Say what you want about Joe but he's got sentimental value for me as Mr. Net, he's one of the original blue collar guys that made his reputation here, and if we were to realise our potential and win a title I really want Joe to be here for it.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I have no interest in trading Joe or Seth.

Seth has bad games. But hes also our best bench player as far when hes on. Who else could erupt for 30 in a playoff game?

Harris gives us size on the wing we never had last year.

Also its not that hard to get a backup C anyway. Not worth elite shooters.

Get one from the buyout market or trade 2nds.

I'm ok with moving Cam for the right deal. I like him but we just don't have the minutes to develop him in my view. And we wont be able to pay him anyway.

[CalamityX12]

This is why I love Vaughn. We're up 15 in a low intensity game and he ripped into the team for not running the offense properly. Next time down the team is running at full speed, whipping the ball around, screening hard. Ends in a Curry bucket but I don't even care about that. It was just the sense of urgency and the movement.

Yeah I love Vaughn. He's the least of our problems. Back up C and Ben being a shell of himself are bigger problems

THe inability of getting direct points from Ben is ****.... how did he steal a mega contract without putting points on the board directly?


this is some Stephen King sh*t.... all that money(not that we made the contract in the first place) for partial rebounding n assists, defense is good but not that mega millions good.... its awful, he needs to attack the stupid rim foul or not, attack foo!

[CalamityX12]

I have no interest in trading Joe or Seth.

Seth has bad games. But hes also our best bench player as far when hes on. Who else could erupt for 30 in a playoff game?

Harris gives us size on the wing we never had last year.

Also its not that hard to get a backup C anyway. Not worth elite shooters.

Get one from the buyout market or trade 2nds.

I'm ok with moving Cam for the right deal. I like him but we just don't have the minutes to develop him in my view. And we wont be able to pay him anyway.

Joe's size aint' enough to hold on to him. As our most counted on shooter and pts maker, he's too far inconsistent and more likely to be a negative than positive when Durant or Kyrie are off.

Can't lean on him anymore. Despite what I said, his shooting(on the decline) holds me hostage to fully move him.

IF we're playing team ball and have him move with cuts towards the basket for easy drops, sure its fine. But if we're playing iso ball and leaving him for those countless open looks, he better make them and so far, he's not reliable... he's had his share of ups but its more downs than anything.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I have no interest in trading Joe or Seth.

Seth has bad games. But hes also our best bench player as far when hes on. Who else could erupt for 30 in a playoff game?

Harris gives us size on the wing we never had last year.

Also its not that hard to get a backup C anyway. Not worth elite shooters.

Get one from the buyout market or trade 2nds.

I'm ok with moving Cam for the right deal. I like him but we just don't have the minutes to develop him in my view. And we wont be able to pay him anyway.

Joe's size aint' enough to hold on to him. As our most counted on shooter and pts maker, he's too far inconsistent and more likely to be a negative than positive when Durant or Kyrie are off.

Can't lean on him anymore. Despite what I said, his shooting(on the decline) holds me hostage to fully move him.

IF we're playing team ball and have him move with cuts towards the basket for easy drops, sure its fine. But if we're playing iso ball and leaving him for those countless open looks, he better make them and so far, he's not reliable... he's had his share of ups but its more downs than anything.

Hes literally shooting 40% from 3 lol. And thats despite his horrific start.

Also what exactly do you think were getting back for him?

Youre saying hes not reliable but hes objectively one of the best shooters in the league.

[CalamityX12]

I have no interest in trading Joe or Seth.

Seth has bad games. But hes also our best bench player as far when hes on. Who else could erupt for 30 in a playoff game?

Harris gives us size on the wing we never had last year.

Also its not that hard to get a backup C anyway. Not worth elite shooters.

Get one from the buyout market or trade 2nds.

I'm ok with moving Cam for the right deal. I like him but we just don't have the minutes to develop him in my view. And we wont be able to pay him anyway.

Joe's size aint' enough to hold on to him. As our most counted on shooter and pts maker, he's too far inconsistent and more likely to be a negative than positive when Durant or Kyrie are off.

Can't lean on him anymore. Despite what I said, his shooting(on the decline) holds me hostage to fully move him.

IF we're playing team ball and have him move with cuts towards the basket for easy drops, sure its fine. But if we're playing iso ball and leaving him for those countless open looks, he better make them and so far, he's not reliable... he's had his share of ups but its more downs than anything.

Hes literally shooting 40% from 3 lol. And thats despite his horrific start.

Also what exactly do you think were getting back for him?

Youre saying hes not reliable but hes objectively one of the best shooters in the league.

we all know Joe disappears. I hate it but he's burned my trust over the years. He may be up on the stats/%s but from what i've seen(grant it NOT EVERY GM at all) i see more whiffs than anything. Same time, if i miss a game i'll read the recap and he'll havea 3/4 or 4/5 night not often.

what can we get oh idk.... i don't know we can really afford moving him. I think he's more valuable to us rather than another team if that makes sense. He won't bring back someone better alone.

[TheNetsFan]

Joe's size aint' enough to hold on to him. As our most counted on shooter and pts maker, he's too far inconsistent and more likely to be a negative than positive when Durant or Kyrie are off.

Can't lean on him anymore. Despite what I said, his shooting(on the decline) holds me hostage to fully move him.

IF we're playing team ball and have him move with cuts towards the basket for easy drops, sure its fine. But if we're playing iso ball and leaving him for those countless open looks, he better make them and so far, he's not reliable... he's had his share of ups but its more downs than anything.

Hes literally shooting 40% from 3 lol. And thats despite his horrific start.

Also what exactly do you think were getting back for him?

Youre saying hes not reliable but hes objectively one of the best shooters in the league.

we all know Joe disappears. I hate it but he's burned my trust over the years. He may be up on the stats/%s but from what i've seen(grant it NOT EVERY GM at all) i see more whiffs than anything. Same time, if i miss a game i'll read the recap and he'll havea 3/4 or 4/5 night not often.

what can we get oh idk.... i don't know we can really afford moving him. I think he's more valuable to us rather than another team if that makes sense. He won't bring back someone better alone.

Distance shooters are streaky. You can't evaluate them a game at a time, especially when they're getting as few shots as Harris has been (which is an indictment on the offensive system). A 1 for 4/5 game is viewed as a bad game, where as a 2 for 4/5 is viewed as a good game. The margin is one made 3 within a single game.

[Minnamaker]

He probably shoots just as good as any elite shooter in the league. Just like any other shooter he has hot and cold streaks. It just feels like he does not have the "clutch gene". I don't remember many momentum swing plays of him. On the other hand guys like yuta, royce and Curry have them all the time.

I would still like to keep him. If we would trade him, it would not take long for the fanbase to complain about the lack of elite shooters. He has the size, to not cause missmatches with every switch and at least tries on defense. I would rather trade Curry. Expiring contract and he is probably looking for more playing time too. It's probably the last time he can cash in.

That being said, I really just want another big body bigman. If he has a jumper great, otherwise just a McGee/Dwight player. Besides that all I want is an injuryfree season.

[Hello Brooklyn]

He probably shoots just as good as any elite shooter in the league. Just like any other shooter he has hot and cold streaks. It just feels like he does not have the "clutch gene". I don't remember many momentum swing plays of him. On the other hand guys like yuta, royce and Curry have them all the time.

I would still like to keep him. If we would trade him, it would not take long for the fanbase to complain about the lack of elite shooters. He has the size, to not cause missmatches with every switch and at least tries on defense. I would rather trade Curry. Expiring contract and he is probably looking for more playing time too. It's probably the last time he can cash in.

That being said, I really just want another big body bigman. If he has a jumper great, otherwise just a McGee/Dwight player. Besides that all I want is an injuryfree season.

Harris was horrible in the '21 playoffs. He probably cost us that series since the margin was so tight.

With that being said lets see if he can change course this year. Plenty of guys have done that before.

Curry is a huge sparkplug off the bench that we need.

A backup big is what we need. Lets just do it off buyout or with Cam or 2nd rounders.

[Minnamaker]

He probably shoots just as good as any elite shooter in the league. Just like any other shooter he has hot and cold streaks. It just feels like he does not have the "clutch gene". I don't remember many momentum swing plays of him. On the other hand guys like yuta, royce and Curry have them all the time.

I would still like to keep him. If we would trade him, it would not take long for the fanbase to complain about the lack of elite shooters. He has the size, to not cause missmatches with every switch and at least tries on defense. I would rather trade Curry. Expiring contract and he is probably looking for more playing time too. It's probably the last time he can cash in.

That being said, I really just want another big body bigman. If he has a jumper great, otherwise just a McGee/Dwight player. Besides that all I want is an injuryfree season.

Harris was horrible in the '21 playoffs. He probably cost us that series since the margin was so tight.

With that being said lets see if he can change course this year. Plenty of guys have done that before.

Curry is a huge sparkplug off the bench that we need.

A backup big is what we need. Lets just do it off buyout or with Cam or 2nd rounders.

You're right. He was still shooting 40% from 3 in the 2021 playoffs though. That's kinda what I meant. He missed some incredibly painful 3s in game 7 but also played 47 mins in that game. He averaged 37 min/game in the bucks series (only averaged 33% 3point% in the series though), way more than his season average (30). The whole team ran obviously out of gas in the series. The loss is 100% on Nash.

Shamet for example averaged 43% 3p% and still only played 16 min/game and played 7 min in game 7 despite everyone struggling and OT. Incredibly frustrating thinking of Nashs failures again

[Hello Brooklyn]

How long is this bum Ben Simmons going to be out???

[MrDollarBills]

How long is this bum Ben Simmons going to be out???

The new Call of Duty season is about to begin so probably for awhile