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Post#41 » by CalamityX12 » Wed Feb 8, 2023 3:01 pm

Harris 2 yrs at $18m
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Curry 1 yr at $8m

works financially to bring in DeRozan at 2 yrs $27m
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Re: What would it take to get.... 

Post#42 » by Netaman » Wed Feb 8, 2023 3:44 pm

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CalamityX12 wrote:Imo, the 2nd star to KD should come from the backcourt

Agreed. A 2-man game between KD & an elite scoring wing may prove near unstoppable, if we surround them with defense and threes. I don’t see KD and Siakam being able to play directly off of each other.


derozan would be a great add if they can get him but i think siakam would also fit really well. both are smart players who can create with the ball in their hands and win efficiently in the midrange. both would be able to take the ball out of kd's hands from having to create as often.

i think siakam gets the slight edge because he can do more for you when the ball isnt in his hands with his length.

those are probably the 2 best realistic pieces they can though. id give up cam and all the picks for siakam because you are probably getting him for 5 years, not as sure about the price id pay for derozan since he's 33.
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Post#43 » by NetsWorld » Wed Feb 8, 2023 3:49 pm

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CalamityX12 wrote:Imo, the 2nd star to KD should come from the backcourt

Agreed. A 2-man game between KD & an elite scoring wing may prove near unstoppable, if we surround them with defense and threes. I don’t see KD and Siakam being able to play directly off of each other.


derozan would be a great add if they can get him but i think siakam would also fit really well. both are smart players who can create with the ball in their hands and win efficiently in the midrange. both would be able to take the ball out of kd's hands from having to create as often.

i think siakam gets the slight edge because he can do more for you when the ball isnt in his hands with his length.

those are probably the 2 best realistic pieces they can though. id give up cam and all the picks for siakam because you are probably getting him for 5 years, not as sure about the price id pay for derozan since he's 33.


Windhorst is reporting the Nets are changing posture on trading KD and also reporting teams don't want to help the Nets. The league is literally manipulating KD off the Nets. The league/media literally forced the Nets into trading Harden/Kyrie/KD. How the Nets were decimated is proof that the league is rigged. Awful Awful; also, Lakers fans are admitting they wanted to fleece us and that we are now getting framed that we didn't negotiate in good faith. This league is hell bent on helping the Lakers.
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Post#44 » by Netaman » Wed Feb 8, 2023 4:10 pm

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NyCeEvO wrote:Agreed. A 2-man game between KD & an elite scoring wing may prove near unstoppable, if we surround them with defense and threes. I don’t see KD and Siakam being able to play directly off of each other.


derozan would be a great add if they can get him but i think siakam would also fit really well. both are smart players who can create with the ball in their hands and win efficiently in the midrange. both would be able to take the ball out of kd's hands from having to create as often.

i think siakam gets the slight edge because he can do more for you when the ball isnt in his hands with his length.

those are probably the 2 best realistic pieces they can though. id give up cam and all the picks for siakam because you are probably getting him for 5 years, not as sure about the price id pay for derozan since he's 33.


Windhorst is reporting the Nets are changing posture on trading KD and also reporting teams don't want to help the Nets. The league is literally manipulating KD off the Nets. The league/media literally forced the Nets into trading Harden/Kyrie/KD. How the Nets were decimated is proof that the league is rigged. Awful Awful; also, Lakers fans are admitting they wanted to fleece us and that we are now getting framed that we didn't negotiate in good faith. This league is hell bent on helping the Lakers.


if kd goes i still think it's phoenix, and because a big offer comes in that marks doesn't want to pass up with kd luke warm on.

i also wouldn't discount the possibility that the nets are putting this out there to scare off the rental market for guys they want to get.

ex. miami, boston, and phoenix i think were all mentioned in connection with olynyk. are those teams less likely to give up first round picks in a typical rental deal knowing they may need to hold their ammo since kd may be back on the market in june?

id imagine this news could also scare off any teams interested in kd from offering big on OG or siakam.

if the nets have the best offer on players other teams want to trade i think they will get those players. ainge and masai aren't passing up better offers for worse ones - especially if they are selling and not in the market to get kd in the first place.
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Re: What would it take to get.... 

Post#45 » by TheNetsFan » Wed Feb 8, 2023 4:12 pm

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NyCeEvO wrote:Agreed. A 2-man game between KD & an elite scoring wing may prove near unstoppable, if we surround them with defense and threes. I don’t see KD and Siakam being able to play directly off of each other.


derozan would be a great add if they can get him but i think siakam would also fit really well. both are smart players who can create with the ball in their hands and win efficiently in the midrange. both would be able to take the ball out of kd's hands from having to create as often.

i think siakam gets the slight edge because he can do more for you when the ball isnt in his hands with his length.

those are probably the 2 best realistic pieces they can though. id give up cam and all the picks for siakam because you are probably getting him for 5 years, not as sure about the price id pay for derozan since he's 33.


Windhorst is reporting the Nets are changing posture on trading KD and also reporting teams don't want to help the Nets. The league is literally manipulating KD off the Nets. The league/media literally forced the Nets into trading Harden/Kyrie/KD. How the Nets were decimated is proof that the league is rigged. Awful Awful; also, Lakers fans are admitting they wanted to fleece us and that we are now getting framed that we didn't negotiate in good faith. This league is hell bent on helping the Lakers.

Not sure about that or teams just know it's coming. This reminds me of the Harden deal last year. Nets leaking they're not ready, or it's not close, and at the last minute they pivot & say ok last & final offer.
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Re: What would it take to get.... 

Post#46 » by Eatgreenz » Wed Feb 8, 2023 5:02 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:Harris 2 yrs at $18m
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Curry 1 yr at $8m

works financially to bring in DeRozan at 2 yrs $27m

Probably a pick or 2, could get it done
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Re: What would it take to get.... 

Post#47 » by CalamityX12 » Wed Feb 8, 2023 5:06 pm

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CalamityX12 wrote:Harris 2 yrs at $18m
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Curry 1 yr at $8m

works financially to bring in DeRozan at 2 yrs $27m

Probably a pick or 2, could get it done

frees up cap space for Chicago in subsequent years
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Re: What would it take to get.... 

Post#48 » by Paradise » Wed Feb 8, 2023 5:08 pm

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CalamityX12 wrote:Imo, the 2nd star to KD should come from the backcourt

Agreed. A 2-man game between KD & an elite scoring wing may prove near unstoppable, if we surround them with defense and threes. I don’t see KD and Siakam being able to play directly off of each other.

Both can run PNR mid range or three point pops with each other. Siakam has an underrated handle.
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Re: What would it take to get.... 

Post#49 » by CalamityX12 » Wed Feb 8, 2023 5:18 pm

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CalamityX12 wrote:Imo, the 2nd star to KD should come from the backcourt

Agreed. A 2-man game between KD & an elite scoring wing may prove near unstoppable, if we surround them with defense and threes. I don’t see KD and Siakam being able to play directly off of each other.

Both can run PNR mid range or three point pops with each other. Siakam has an underrated handle.

While true, wouldn't KD n Siakam be often grouped up on the court rather than spread out?

or does Siakam play more perimeter than inside?
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Re: What would it take to get.... 

Post#50 » by NyCeEvO » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:32 am

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CalamityX12 wrote:Imo, the 2nd star to KD should come from the backcourt

Agreed. A 2-man game between KD & an elite scoring wing may prove near unstoppable, if we surround them with defense and threes. I don’t see KD and Siakam being able to play directly off of each other.

Both can run PNR mid range or three point pops with each other. Siakam has an underrated handle.

I don’t agree.

A sequence that requires a ball handler to come close to or run off of a teammate via a screen/dribble handoff/etc greatly benefits from having a very good ballhandler who can split or pass out of a double team set by thr ballhandler’s defender and the roll/screener’s defender who hedges.

KD and Siakam are good ballhandlers for their size, but both have experienced trouble dribbling in the playoffs against elite defenses. IMO, a 2-man game between Demar and KD would definitely be more effective than a KD & Siakam 2-man game.
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Re: What would it take to get.... 

Post#51 » by NyCeEvO » Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:06 am

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NyCeEvO wrote:Agreed. A 2-man game between KD & an elite scoring wing may prove near unstoppable, if we surround them with defense and threes. I don’t see KD and Siakam being able to play directly off of each other.

Both can run PNR mid range or three point pops with each other. Siakam has an underrated handle.

I don’t agree.

A sequence that requires a ball handler to come close to or run off of a teammate via a screen/dribble handoff/etc greatly benefits from having a very good ballhandler who can split or pass out of a double team set by thr ballhandler’s defender and the roll/screener’s defender who hedges.

KD and Siakam are good ballhandlers for their size, but both have experienced trouble dribbling in the playoffs against elite defenses. IMO, a 2-man game between Demar and KD would definitely be more effective than a KD & Siakam 2-man game.

Welp...I guess this is all irrelevant now. :lol:

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