Breaking: Kevin Durant has requested a trade; UPDATE: KD wants Sean Marks/Nash fired - Shams

[Paradise]

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Hard pass.

[TheNetsFan]

I don't care if Memphis offers JJJ. Thats not enough.

Boston offer is far better. Hard pass.

No. Teams know that the Nets want players, but they will no longer "offer" players unless they know it'll be accepted. Teams are not happy with all of the leaks.

They'll ask how close or what needs to be added to 4-5 picks and expiring filler and see what players the Nets ask for.

[Shark]

Has to be JJJ AND Bane. I like both, but JJJ's injury history is scary and Bane, while improving, isn't someone I really see becoming the sort of star I would think the Nets are looking for.

[MrDollarBills]

A Memphis offer would likely be based on JJJ and picks. I'd insist on Bane as well & forgo some picks. I'd offer to send back Curry or Cam in the deal too if it meant JJJ & Bane. JJJ-Simmons-Harris-Bane-Irving with O'Neale, Sharpe, Mills & Edwards off the bench is a fun team.

Stress fractures for big guys are no joke, so Memphis has to add a lot to JJJ to make a deal worthwhile. He's a distressed asset at this point, not all that dissimilar from the Simmons situation with the Harden trade.

It doesn't work cash wise. We can only send out KD, and they would have to send us back both JJJ, Bane, and Zaire Williams + picks

I'd take the risk on JJJ.

The expiring deals of Green or New Zealand's own Steven Adams would be in the deal as filler. Salary matching is the easy part.

JJJ is worth the risk, but can't be the only non-pick piece of significance.

JJJ and Bane, or no deal.

[ArksNetsSince99]

Still waiting for Denver trade , Joker for snake straight up , man can dream right ?

[JoseRizal]

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Garbage deal. Atlanta shouldn't have bothered.

[gigantes]

Does anyone else here think that the team is angling too hard for young, current stars?

Because it's really hard for me to have confidence in KI&KD staying the whole season and winning a new championship, so shouldn't Marks (& Tsai) be looking at a semi-reset here? By that I mean, Marks using his traditionally strong ability to spot talent and ask for young, potential stars and extra picks to replenish the cupboard. I.e., instead of asking for more obvious talent, thereby cutting down on future picks in the deal.

It's like we're stuck trying to achieve multiple goals here, ultimately being a master of none.
Seriously-- what is the team's actual goal, going forward?
Because if it's still winning a title in the near-term, then I am laughing.

In the meantime, several times now I've seen direct or oblique mention of Tsai strongly wanting to field a playoff team in order to maintain a certain amount of popular interest in Nets/Barclay's assets, ultimately helping make his books work. So, that makes sense to me from a pure business-POV, but also seems like it could really hinder the team from making an efficient turnaround from the current flustercluck. Again, isn't it easier to get where you're going when you have less goals, compared to more goals?

All that bloviated, I think most of what I said above is hogwash if the Nets successfully get full or near-full trade value from KI&KD near the trade deadline, when their value is potentially higher. In fact I admire Marks' ability to hold his nerve and stay patient, not making a trade just for trade's sake. Just to appease fan angst, that sort of thing.

Sheesh, what a crazy sitchy-ayshun this whole thing is. :S

[TheNetsFan]

Does anyone else here think that the team is angling too hard for young, current stars?

Because it's really hard for me to have confidence in KI&KD staying the whole season and winning a new championship, so shouldn't Marks (& Tsai) be looking at a semi-reset here? By that I mean, Marks using his traditionally strong ability to spot talent and ask for young, potential stars and extra picks to replenish the cupboard. I.e., instead of asking for more obvious talent, thereby cutting down on future picks in the deal.

It's like we're stuck trying to achieve multiple goals here, ultimately being a master of none.
Seriously-- what is the team's actual goal, going forward?
Because if it's still winning a title in the near-term, then I am laughing.

In the meantime, several times now I've seen direct or oblique mention of Tsai strongly wanting to field a playoff team in order to maintain a certain amount of popular interest in Nets/Barclay's assets, ultimately helping make his books work. So, that makes sense to me from a pure business-POV, but also seems like it could really hinder the team from making an efficient turnaround from the current flustercluck. Again, isn't it easier to get where you're going when you have less goals, compared to more goals?

All that bloviated, I think most of what I said above is hogwash if the Nets successfully get full or near-full trade value from KI&KD near the trade deadline, when their value is potentially higher. In fact I admire Marks' ability to hold his nerve and stay patient, not making a trade just for trade's sake. Just to appease fan angst, that sort of thing.

Sheesh, what a crazy sitchy-ayshun this whole thing is. :S

No I don't. Outside of the Pelicans, and possibly the Suns, I don't see any teams offering picks that have much upside.

It's clear that Marks is eyeing the potentially great 2024 free agency class and/or the cap spike year in 2025. He's going to try the same model again. Field a good promising team & try to attract a big free agent. You don't do that with future picks. You do that by being a playoff team with Ben Simmons, ideally a guy like Brandon Ingram & a max slot.

[MrDollarBills]

Does anyone else here think that the team is angling too hard for young, current stars?

Because it's really hard for me to have confidence in KI&KD staying the whole season and winning a new championship, so shouldn't Marks (& Tsai) be looking at a semi-reset here? By that I mean, Marks using his traditionally strong ability to spot talent and ask for young, potential stars and extra picks to replenish the cupboard. I.e., instead of asking for more obvious talent, thereby cutting down on future picks in the deal.

It's like we're stuck trying to achieve multiple goals here, ultimately being a master of none.
Seriously-- what is the team's actual goal, going forward?
Because if it's still winning a title in the near-term, then I am laughing.

In the meantime, several times now I've seen direct or oblique mention of Tsai strongly wanting to field a playoff team in order to maintain a certain amount of popular interest in Nets/Barclay's assets, ultimately helping make his books work. So, that makes sense to me from a pure business-POV, but also seems like it could really hinder the team from making an efficient turnaround from the current flustercluck. Again, isn't it easier to get where you're going when you have less goals, compared to more goals?

All that bloviated, I think most of what I said above is hogwash if the Nets successfully get full or near-full trade value from KI&KD near the trade deadline, when their value is potentially higher. In fact I admire Marks' ability to hold his nerve and stay patient, not making a trade just for trade's sake. Just to appease fan angst, that sort of thing.

Sheesh, what a crazy sitchy-ayshun this whole thing is. :S

We can't reset without control of our picks. Getting all star talent in return is the only way to stay afloat.

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Hard pass.

Pure comedy.

Have to thank all these trolling offers we received for KD. Probably played a part in motivating his sensitive ass to run it back with us in a prove it "you know who I am" season.

[ArksNetsSince99]

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Hard pass.

Pure comedy.

Have to thank all these trolling offers we received for KD. Probably played a part in motivating his sensitive ass to run it back with us in a prove it "you know who I am" season.

Doesn’t change the fact he is still a snake , I’ll root for Joe Harris , Seth , Simmons , hell even Kyrie more or less , snake is a mercenary who can help this franchise win a trophy and then he can GTFO

Go NETS !!!

[Tha King]

Bridges, Cam Johnson, and picks imo is better than something like Brown/Ingram and a pick or two

Bridges career on/off: +6.4
Mitchell: +1.5
Brown: +1.0
Ingram: +0.9

Bridges might never be a secondary scorer but he impacts the game and helps you win more than a lot of players that are looked at as all stars. I also wouldn't be surprised if he becomes a ~20ppg player in a more expanded role to go along with his elite defense and everything else he brings to a team. Cam Johnson gives you a 6'8 wing putting up 43% from 3 on 6 attempts (similar attempts as Joe) in his third season in the league.

Simmons, Bridges, and Cam Johnson is a very good fit offensively and defensively and essentially gives you the most valuable position in the league right now sorted for the next few years along with draft picks to build around. It would need a primary scorer but you can get to that down the road when looking to contend and that type of player isn't coming back in a KD trade anyways (Brown, Ingram, Mitchell, etc. are not that imo).

Been said, day one.

Just forget the Simmons part

[Keith Van Horn]

Bridges, Cam Johnson, and picks imo is better than something like Brown/Ingram and a pick or two

Bridges career on/off: +6.4
Mitchell: +1.5
Brown: +1.0
Ingram: +0.9

Bridges might never be a secondary scorer but he impacts the game and helps you win more than a lot of players that are looked at as all stars. I also wouldn't be surprised if he becomes a ~20ppg player in a more expanded role to go along with his elite defense and everything else he brings to a team. Cam Johnson gives you a 6'8 wing putting up 43% from 3 on 6 attempts (similar attempts as Joe) in his third season in the league.

Simmons, Bridges, and Cam Johnson is a very good fit offensively and defensively and essentially gives you the most valuable position in the league right now sorted for the next few years along with draft picks to build around. It would need a primary scorer but you can get to that down the road when looking to contend and that type of player isn't coming back in a KD trade anyways (Brown, Ingram, Mitchell, etc. are not that imo).

Been said, day one.

Just forget the Simmons part

Good call!!

[Netaman]

Bridges, Cam Johnson, and picks imo is better than something like Brown/Ingram and a pick or two

Bridges career on/off: +6.4
Mitchell: +1.5
Brown: +1.0
Ingram: +0.9

Bridges might never be a secondary scorer but he impacts the game and helps you win more than a lot of players that are looked at as all stars. I also wouldn't be surprised if he becomes a ~20ppg player in a more expanded role to go along with his elite defense and everything else he brings to a team. Cam Johnson gives you a 6'8 wing putting up 43% from 3 on 6 attempts (similar attempts as Joe) in his third season in the league.

Simmons, Bridges, and Cam Johnson is a very good fit offensively and defensively and essentially gives you the most valuable position in the league right now sorted for the next few years along with draft picks to build around. It would need a primary scorer but you can get to that down the road when looking to contend and that type of player isn't coming back in a KD trade anyways (Brown, Ingram, Mitchell, etc. are not that imo).

Been said, day one.

Just forget the Simmons part

same here, except they still didn't blast kyrie far enough away.

gotta be honest i really like that Suns package. bummed about the glitch for Bam, but I have always like Bridges. I wanted to trade up for him in that draft. Ayton is whatever without KD still here but that's a legit team so at least Houston wont be getting top 5 picks.

Simmons
Seth
Brown / Harris
Bridges
Ayton

shoot kyrie to the moon and im excited about next year and what they decide to do with all their new picks.

[Netaman]

damn this was even more on it.

playing around with the trade machine if we don't want Ayton i think i'd do this. http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=258bhwqr
(basically KD for Bridges, Cam Johnson, filler + max picks).

we'd basically have a crap ton of 3 and D wings around Simmons/Curry/Harris/Patty and Claxton inside.

Simmons / Patty
Seth / Cam
O'Neale / Harris
Bridges / Other Cam
Claxton / Sharpe

Presumably their next move would be looking for more of a stretch C to compliment Claxton (ideally as part of the salary filler return in a kyrie deal?). Powell/Dinwiddie for Kyrie would fit this roster pretty well.

i'm pretty sure this kind of deal eliminates a lot of the complications with BYC and S&T stuff, though I presume it's maybe not enough which is why there's the current complication of figuring out what they can turn Ayton into (or how they can do a deal with him via S&T). if they dealt Harris I think they'd even be in position to have some cap room next summer.

Not sure there's anyone better than Ayton worth saving money for which is why i'd probably ultimately take the deal with him + bridges.

[NetsWorld]

The Suns intro at 4PM of KD will reveal a lot about KD's headspace as it relates to how he felt about our organization when he was in the process of getting traded; also, don't be shocked if he indirectly takes a jab at Mr.Unreliable. Eddie Gonzales, host of and KD's mouthpiece show, said this week Harden AND Kyrie tanked their value dramatically and also acknowledged Kyrie's inability to get vaccinated played a role in the team imploding. In essence, these are KD's words being put in Gonzales mouth. I find it funny how kyrie bashed the organization saying they used mouth pieces to bad mouth him when in fact he did the same thing with Shams.