Cam Johnson Strategy

[3pt_chucker]

There is no rush to trade him. Teams will get more desperate closer to the deadline.

Everybody loves their team right now.

I hope CamJ and DFS are gone before season starts

If they here and building their value means we get more Ws , and we need more Ls

If they here and they suck , they loosing value

Trade them ASAP

CamJ and DFS do not move the needle. Nets can tank with them on the roster.

Currently, Nets probably have a bottom 3 roster (Nets, Wizards, Detroit) and are fully incentivized to be bad.

Can play CJ and DFS low mins(<25mpg) and wait for injuries/desperate team to give them decent offers.

[SpezNc]

Raptors fans here .

I saw somewhere that Raptors were one of the team that was interested in Cam Johnson. I am not sure how legit it was and if picking Ja’Kobe Walter #19 at the draft change this. But we do have Bruce Brown to trade . Salaries match almost perfectly. Obviously I am not implying a one on one Brown for Johnson. I am sure Johnson has more value than Brown. I am sure you don’t need Bruce Brown the player . But what would be the plus to attach to Bruce Brown to have a trade ? Also let’s go further . We are not playing Chris Boucher . We don’t necessarily have to trade him but I think the player would like another opportunity and Raptors will not hesitate to include him in any trade if it’s helping his situation . We will NOT attach anything to send him because we can keep him or even waive without any catastrophic impact for us. But should we expand a deal to Brown + Boucher + ? for Johnson + ??

What would be the ? And the ?? To make a deal?

At the end of the day it’s just for talk because I think it’s unlikely we do a deal together .

At the same time, I don’t know why but I am still somewhat intrigue about a deal between both our organizations . And we never know .

And last question : should neither Brooklyn nor Raptors make any further trade / additions who has the better record next season ? Us or you ?

Even if next we hope our young players can make a leap and the organization is likely to aim the play in, I think we are both in the same boat that 2025 draft could be a great opportunity to add a valuable addition to our franchise .

May the best tanking while developing win!

Sorry for my English, I am french Canadian and sometimes my English can be grammatically shaky.

[Netaman]

Raptors fans here .

I saw somewhere that Raptors were one of the team that was interested in Cam Johnson. I am not sure how legit it was and if picking Ja’Kobe Walter #19 at the draft change this. But we do have Bruce Brown to trade . Salaries match almost perfectly. Obviously I am not implying a one on one Brown for Johnson. I am sure Johnson has more value than Brown. I am sure you don’t need Bruce Brown the player . But what would be the plus to attach to Bruce Brown to have a trade ? Also let’s go further . We are not playing Chris Boucher . We don’t necessarily have to trade him but I think the player would like another opportunity and Raptors will not hesitate to include him in any trade if it’s helping his situation . We will NOT attach anything to send him because we can keep him or even waive without any catastrophic impact for us. But should we expand a deal to Brown + Boucher + ? for Johnson + ??

What would be the ? And the ?? To make a deal?

At the end of the day it’s just for talk because I think it’s unlikely we do a deal together .

At the same time, I don’t know why but I am still somewhat intrigue about a deal between both our organizations . And we never know .

And last question : should neither Brooklyn nor Raptors make any further trade / additions who has the better record next season ? Us or you ?

Even if next we hope our young players can make a leap and the organization is likely to aim the play in, I think we are both in the same boat that 2025 draft could be a great opportunity to add a valuable addition to our franchise .

May the best tanking while developing win!

Sorry for my English, I am french Canadian and sometimes my English can be grammatically shaky.

interesting thought - it all depends on whatever asset is attached with brown. he is good salary filler back for CamJ and im sure nets are ok swapping his deal for an expiring that ends quicker, but they will only do it if there's a good enough draft asset(s) coming back with brown.

as an example our expectation is a simple deal from the LAL would be a similar return from the rumored Murray offer at the deadline (an unprotected first + JHS + filler). Toronto traded 1 protected FRP for Poeltl as a rental at the deadline, think the price would be slightly higher here for CamJ with 3 years remaining.

[ecuhus1981]

Welcome, SpezNc!

I could see Johnson making sense as a complement to Scottie, although I think that Cam J makes more sense on a would-be contender. We wouldn't especially mind a Bruce reunion, but we're not built in a situation with multiple stars, where he would thrive.

As for who is the bottom of our division this upcoming, I think it's us. Brooklyn are actively getting to be one of the 4 worst teams, for lottery odds. Toronto are built too competent to be awful.

And you're better in your 2nd language than I am in my first!

[Sharcm1]

I think the nets should keep him this season and hope he shows better this year. So his value is higher when we trade him

[Wisedude]

Cam Johnson over 7 NBA seasons has averaged 11.75 ppg. He is basically a journeyman shooter with his stats. Not a defender either. This is why 34 year old Demar Derozan and many other wings are already sought after with new Teams. Because they are better players all around. No NBA team is coming close to what Marks is asking. Reality check.

[JKiddy]

Cam Johnson over 7 NBA seasons has averaged 11.75 ppg. He is basically a journeyman shooter with his stats. Not a defender either. This is why 34 year old Demar Derozan and many other wings are already sought after with new Teams. Because they are better players all around. No NBA team is coming close to what Marks is asking. Reality check.

Yeah a stud 3PT Shooter who is long and the perfect compliment off star players on any serious playoff team is garbage! They should just waive him today!

[Netaman]

Cam Johnson over 7 NBA seasons has averaged 11.75 ppg. He is basically a journeyman shooter with his stats. Not a defender either. This is why 34 year old Demar Derozan and many other wings are already sought after with new Teams. Because they are better players all around. No NBA team is coming close to what Marks is asking. Reality check.

yawn. how many times did you post something similar about bridges? how did that work out?

either marks will get the price he wants or he will keep cam johnson. it's not too complicated.

[JKiddy]

I like Wisedude and guys like him. In his mind he feels like if he can make up stats that help his team's cause that the GM of the Nets will read the RealGM board and then lower his trade ask for (fill in the player he wants on his team... in this case he wants CamJo on the Cavs).

[Wisedude]

I like Wisedude and guys like him. In his mind he feels like if he can make up stats that help his team's cause that the GM of the Nets will read the RealGM board and then lower his trade ask for (fill in the player he wants on his team... in this case he wants CamJo on the Cavs).

I would only want Cam on the Cavs at a reasonable price but not the bloated price because he has never been an All Star player and not a game changer. The Nets are rebuilding because they could not win with these players. If these players were so good, they would not be tearing it apart for the 10th time.

[JKiddy]

" These " players are not the same players we had when we were the best team in the league. We have already traded away more talent than your team has seen this century.

We traded Harden, KD, Kyrie, Mikal, etc. just to name a few! So this iteration is purposely bad now as that is the most logical play.

The objective is fairly clear in that we want to finish low in the standings the next 2 seasons as we build up the youth crew we have and the young vets potentially turning into All-Stars by 2026/7.

So, I do not understand your point here.

[TheNetsFan]

The objective is fairly clear in that we want to finish low in the standings the next 2 seasons as we build up the youth crew we have and the young vets potentially turning into All-Stars by 2026/7.

I disagree. I believe we want to bottom out this year, but the goal should be to be on the rise in '25/'26. You don't try to tank with potentially up to 6 rookies on the team, including at least one highly drafted rookie. The '26 pick is insurance. Between all the '25 picks and the '25 cap space, the goal should be to compete for a playoff spot in '26.

[Netaman]

The objective is fairly clear in that we want to finish low in the standings the next 2 seasons as we build up the youth crew we have and the young vets potentially turning into All-Stars by 2026/7.

I disagree. I believe we want to bottom out this year, but the goal should be to be on the rise in '25/'26. You don't try to tank with potentially up to 6 rookies on the team, including at least one highly drafted rookie. The '26 pick is insurance. Between all the '25 picks and the '25 cap space, the goal should be to compete for a playoff spot in '26.

this is going to be an unpopular (and misunderstood) post, but i think their goal is to compete the best they can at all times - even in 2025 despite not spending any resources externally to accomplish that. they are obviously realistic about the odds of accomplishing that as we all should be - they were 9th in the draft last year and not that close to play-in even with bridges (and DFS, royce for most of year, walker, dsj, etc).

competing the best they can next year will almost certainly still be 1 of the 5 worst teams by record and even farther from reaching the play in, but id imagine despite that their top priority is generating as much growth as possible from CamT, Clax, Clowney, Wilson etc, and one of the key growth metrics is how much those guys can contribute to winning games (and not just stat stuffing in blowouts and developing bad habbits).

my guess is they are hoping to see a more competitive than expected group in the first few months and then plan to firesale whatever they can at the deadline to do a soft-tank down the stretch and get the draft position as good as possible. from there i think they will chart the path forward. cam being an obvious part of the future would be a good development outcome even if it means they finish 4th worst instead of 2nd worst because he helped them win a few more games. there is no amount of losses that will even give them a 20% chance at flagg. if he's not good enough to be part of the future then they will probably be one of the worst teams in the league and instead of paying him will probably trade him at the deadline. but bc of the odds with the lotto that is likely not the better outcome than Cam being good enough to extend.

[ecuhus1981]

I don't think your take is unpopular to Nets fans at large, and I understand it.

A tank doesn't need to be an 82-game sandbag. We can develop skills, install good system, do our best and still not be very good. We ought to shoot for that, just so we instill the best possible winning habits, in the midst of losing.

In January, if the wheels haven't completely fallen off by then anyway, we can jettison productive veterans, who will be worth more and easier to trade if they aren't leading a laughingstock.

[Jkam31]

I actually would like to see them deal DFS first. Imagine they get 2 1sts for him, and then say "we want more for Cam".

I think Cam is a guy that if they go into the season with him, it wouldn't be the worst thing. Let him play and ball out to see if someone gets desperate enough to make a sizeable offer.

Two first for dfs? Kuzma hasn’t been traded for the reason zero chance DFS or Cam goes for two firsts

[Decipher]

I actually would like to see them deal DFS first. Imagine they get 2 1sts for him, and then say "we want more for Cam".

I think Cam is a guy that if they go into the season with him, it wouldn't be the worst thing. Let him play and ball out to see if someone gets desperate enough to make a sizeable offer.

Two first for dfs? Kuzma hasn’t been traded for the reason zero chance DFS or Cam goes for two firsts

Not saying that they’re worth 2 1sts but probably worth more to contenders than Kuzma, who can be a black hole while they’re plug and play

[Jkam31]

I actually would like to see them deal DFS first. Imagine they get 2 1sts for him, and then say "we want more for Cam".

I think Cam is a guy that if they go into the season with him, it wouldn't be the worst thing. Let him play and ball out to see if someone gets desperate enough to make a sizeable offer.

Two first for dfs? Kuzma hasn’t been traded for the reason zero chance DFS or Cam goes for two firsts

Not saying that they’re worth 2 1sts but probably worth more to contenders than Kuzma, who can be a black hole while they’re plug and play

I doubt it Kuzma is the better player it’s easier for a team to talk themselves into thinking he won’t be a black hole. DFS won’t net anything close to a first I do wonder what Cam goes for as a Kings fan I believe we’ll be in on him

[Karate Diop]

Two first for dfs? Kuzma hasn’t been traded for the reason zero chance DFS or Cam goes for two firsts

Not saying that they’re worth 2 1sts but probably worth more to contenders than Kuzma, who can be a black hole while they’re plug and play

I doubt it Kuzma is the better player it’s easier for a team to talk themselves into thinking he won’t be a black hole. DFS won’t net anything close to a first I do wonder what Cam goes for as a Kings fan I believe we’ll be in on him

Kuzma is significantly worse than Johnson and DFS.

He's a below average player with the easiest set of skills to replace.

[bubonicphoniks]

I really want to see Cam gone. He's just not a clutch guy, he isn't really that likeable. He isn't that versatile out there for a 6'8 guy. His contract annoys me.



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