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Post#1 » by shaolin34 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:18 pm

hey guys, i was just wondering what you thought of your frontcourt situation. with the front office retaining krstic, you guys seem to have a good number of young bigs.

krstic
yi
lopez
s. williams
boone
anderson

where do you rank them in terms of least-likely to most-likely to be traded, and what do you think the nets would be looking for in return for each? there's talk on the bucks board regarding trying to find a defensive, or at least a non-scoring pf, and i thought one of boone or williams would be available (not necessarily a direct trade, perhaps a 3rd team would be needed if you don't want cv, mo williams, etc.). i imagine yi and lopez are the 2 least likely to be moved, but what are your thoughts?
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Post#2 » by Preludepunk27 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:16 pm

We'd definitely need a 3rd team. If the Nets wanted Charlie V, we would have got him into the RJ/Yi deal.

As for who I think is on the market. Right now it's definitely Stro lol. The thing is, if we ship out Boone AND Krstic, we'll have ZERO experienced guys in our front court besides Sean who isn't strong enough to be a full time starter yet and Yi who we'll work into the line up once he's comfortable. Krstic is a better defender than one thinks but honestly I don't know who is gonna take a chance on him. All I can say is that if we retain Krstic, we're definitely gonna shop Boone in a package with some of our garbage to try to entice some people. If we let Krstic walk, we're not gonna talk to anyone about Boone unless it's a deal we couldn't say no to.

I know that really doesn't help out all too much but it's my thoughts on the subject. I don't think we're discussing anyone taking Sean Williams or Brooke Lopez either.
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Post#3 » by okanoho » Tue Jul 1, 2008 2:52 am

way too many
a trade is needed no doubt
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Post#4 » by ecuhus1981 » Tue Jul 1, 2008 5:03 am

Our depth chart will be this, assuming we don't sign or trade anyone else:

Harris, Carter, Hassell, Jianlian, Lopez
Williams, CDR, Simmons, Boone, Krstic
(), Ager, Anderson, Williams, Swift

Lopez and Jianlian will have at least a full season of "protected" status IMO, before the Nets decide if they want to stick with this starting pair long-term. Anderson has the earmarks of fellow offensive marvel Kiki, and I would be shocked if we moved his pet project. If we get a good S&T offer for Nenad, or if someone just throws a BUNCH of $ at him (~5 years, $34mil), he's gone. Otherwise, we'll have a cheap (~4 years, $19mil), quality backup on our hands. That means that Boone, Sean and Stromile are the most likely to be moved this summer.
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Post#5 » by jeff1624 » Tue Jul 1, 2008 8:03 am

If Lopez starts ahead of boone i'm gonna be pissed. Boone was huge for us this year, I hope they don't ''reward'' this way him by relegating him to the bench. I could see Yi starting for marketing reasons but not lopez. Even if he was our top pick this year.
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Post#6 » by Preludepunk27 » Tue Jul 1, 2008 11:08 am

Thorn never really likes playing young guys unless he HAS to, which he had to start doing last year and obviously will have to do this year. Regardless of that, I think he's gonna go with who he knows best at first unless someone completely wows him in the pre-season. So, barring any trades now/signings now and if this is how we go into the season, look for Boone and Krstic to start at the 4 and 5 at least for the first few weeks. As of today though, I envision Brook and CDR starting by the All Star break with an 8-9 man rotation looking like this:

Starters:
Harris
Vince
CDR
Brooksy
Krstic (if he returns to form which I hope)

Bench:
Boone
Yi
Hassel

Don't be surprised either if we don't play Marcus. Remember Vince got some time at point last year lol. I can almost guarantee you we'll go with this big line up at some points:

PG: Vince
SG: CDR
SF: Yi
PF: Krstic/Boone
C: Brook

That's 3 possible 7-footers on the court plus to good shooting guards with solid length. I bet you when we play teams like the Lakers, since they have tons of height now, we'll throw a team like that on the court and hope for the best.
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Post#7 » by Stone » Tue Jul 1, 2008 12:05 pm

If we sign all our rookies we will have 14 guys on the roster. So we really don't have to move anybody. I'm more concerned with our backcourt. Particularly Devin Harris, isn't this his last contracted year with us. That situation needs to be addressed.
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Post#8 » by Birth of the Cool » Tue Jul 1, 2008 12:47 pm

Stone wrote:If we sign all our rookies we will have 14 guys on the roster. So we really don't have to move anybody. I'm more concerned with our backcourt. Particularly Devin Harris, isn't this his last contracted year with us. That situation needs to be addressed.


I thought so to because of HoopsHype but Netsforce cleared that up mentioning ShamSports is more accurate and ShamSports says Devin is locked up until 2013.

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Post#9 » by Serpo » Tue Jul 1, 2008 12:48 pm

Devin Harris is signed through 2012/2013 . He signed an extension with Dallas last year.

And i wouldn't be too worried about the 14 roster spots . Doubt Stromile Swift or Trenton Hassel will be here for training camp .
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Post#10 » by Preludepunk27 » Tue Jul 1, 2008 1:30 pm

I honestly think Stro and Marcus Williams are definite goners. If we can't get them in a package together, I can see us just trading Williams to a team looking to add back court depth for a swing man in his rookie contract. I think we'll get a back up PG through free agency more than any other position. My money is on Janero Pargo. We've wanted him each offseason he was a free agent. His similar play and nice jumper make the transition between him and Harris pretty seemless.

I also believe we will lightly shop Hassell, Sean Williams and Josh Boone. I'm not saying we will trade them or anything. Especially with Sean and Josh, we'll make some calls gauging people's interest and what we could get for them. I think we'll only move those guys though if we get a deal we can't refuse.
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Post#11 » by Stone » Tue Jul 1, 2008 1:35 pm

Thanks for the link Birth, I did get my info from Hoopshype. I'm glad we got Harris locked up thats good news. Looks like a pretty reasonable contract.

I don't think its going to be easy to move Swift. We might be better off just letting him ride the pine and letting his salary come off the books. Is anyone OK with just going into the season "as is"? Keeping all our front court guys and waiting it out until the deadline?
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Post#12 » by Preludepunk27 » Tue Jul 1, 2008 1:46 pm

Stone wrote:Thanks for the link Birth, I did get my info from Hoopshype. I'm glad we got Harris locked up thats good news. Looks like a pretty reasonable contract.

I don't think its going to be easy to move Swift. We might be better off just letting him ride the pine and letting his salary come off the books. Is anyone OK with just going into the season "as is"? Keeping all our front court guys and waiting it out until the deadline?



Do I want this roster to be the game 1 roster? No.

Would I deal with it because we will be able to see how players are developing through the season? Yes

My ideal Offseason:

Trade Stro/Marcus/Filler that would entice GSW for Al Harrington/Marco Bellinili
Sign Janero Pargo
Sign the best vet big man we can afford
If can't get Pargo or a Vet big man, shop Hassell like it's hot until we can find a serviceable back up PG or Big man
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Post#13 » by jeff1624 » Tue Jul 1, 2008 10:58 pm

I doubt we sign a PF/C this offseason. We have enough bigs as is, who are going to get snubbed playing time wise.
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Post#14 » by lurkingobeiscity » Wed Jul 2, 2008 8:20 am

I'd be surprised if the Nets didn't move one or two of those big men and I think more guys are in play than people say:

Yi and Lopez are safe for obvious reasons.

Sean Williams had a very good rookie year, providing shot-blocking that the Nets have needed for a long time. He also seems to have great commitment this off-season considering the reports of his weight/muscle gain as well as the work he's doing with Kiki. Besides Yi and Lopez he is the only other guy I think is off the market.

Boone was great for us last year in the role he played. He doesn't have a real high ceiling and management is aware that his contract will count 6 million against the cap (unless he is renounced AKA not brought back) in the summer of 2010 when they Nets would be looking at free agents. He is a guy that should have value and can definitely play a role on both good and bad teams. IMO the Nets are and should be open to trading him if it can get them right young backcourt player.

I think Stro holds no value to management even though Frank gave him some playing time. Thorn/Kiki probably see that as a problem since the Collins trade was made to free up playing time (at least IMO).

Krstic is a good player but I think the Nets have moved past him and are open to trading him.

Anderson is the new and probably better Veal. His shot should make him a nice bench player, but won't be more than that.

Overall, I would be surprised if Yi and Lopez aren't the starters opening night.
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Post#15 » by S.I.C. GM » Wed Jul 2, 2008 5:32 pm

For some reason, IMO the starting lineup will be:

Harris
Carter
Yi
Boone or S.Will
Brook

Bench
Boki ?
Boone or S.Will
M. Will
Hodges (My Sleeper Off Season Prediction)
CDR
Anderson
Krstic ?
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Post#16 » by RJ 24 » Wed Jul 2, 2008 6:55 pm

I don't know if Yi is talented enough to play the other SFs in the league defensively. So, I don't know if that ^^^ would work.

I definatly think that we don't have our opening day starting SF on the team right now.
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Post#17 » by S.I.C. GM » Wed Jul 2, 2008 7:51 pm

RJ 24 wrote:I don't know if Yi is talented enough to play the other SFs in the league defensively. So, I don't know if that ^^^ would work.

I definatly think that we don't have our opening day starting SF on the team right now.


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Post#18 » by Ricepilar » Wed Jul 2, 2008 11:38 pm

I think Swift will be bought out and Krstic will either leave as a free agent or be signed and traded.

I think Yi, Boone, Sean Williams, and Lopez will be the big man rotation next season.
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Post#19 » by jeff1624 » Wed Jul 2, 2008 11:57 pm

Ricepilar wrote:I think Swift will be bought out and Krstic will either leave as a free agent or be signed and traded.

I think Yi, Boone, Sean Williams, and Lopez will be the big man rotation next season.




Why would we buyout Swift??

Expiring contracts are extremely valueable these days...

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