Marcus Williams Traded To Golden State

[jerseyjac]

I dunno, I just think its in such small minutes, you look at the situation as more for giving Devin a breather or Vince a rest...so you insert Dooling or CDR or as you said even Hayes...I agree w/ what Keyon's playmaking ability is but thats not why he is here...and do agree CDR's ball handling is not that of PG or where he should be handling ball...However, Najera does play well big and I think may move more toward the 5 at times...its just his experience there that gives us a nice defensive choice with different matchups...

so no, not everyone fits in perfectly...if thats what your looking for, you probably are somewhat worried as a Nets fan...I just value and appreciate this team with how you can move players through multiple positions...I mean there are a lot players here than can play 3 positions...again, why not play to our strengths cause some mismatches of our own...

exclusively talking about the PG pos, I dont see it as being far fetched us signing a 3rd string backup/pure pg...

[lurkingobeiscity]

I don't understand the idea that "we could have gotten something to use the over the next two years." For the Nets, there is no next two years. To break that down, if given the choice between something that will help only for the next two years and something that will help only after two years the Nets will choose the latter.

Let's say we had traded Marcus to (for example) Golden State in a package for Al Harrington. Instead of getting that future first to help us after the move to Brooklyn, we get a SF/PF that can help us win some more games now. Our draft position worsens over the next two years while Harrington takes 30 minutes at SF and PF. CDR can't get minutes at SF with Harrington, Simmons, Carter, Hayes, and Najera already there. The same type of thing happens at PF with Ryan Anderson and Sean Williams. Essentially, adding those veteran guys slows the youth movement and diminishes the value of our assets (draft picks and current players who get less playing time and so produce less).

Granted some guys like that are needed for leadership so things don't break down. You don't want to leave the young guys all alone trying to adjust to a new league, but only a few seasoned veterans are needed for that.

Also Marcus Williams was not going to up his value with the Nets as some have suggested. Even if Marcus were to put it together this season (far from a given) he is in a very bad situation: The has a 38 minute a night young PG in front of him. The team just signed a combo guard that they like a lot. The team wants a good defensive guard. It wasn't happening here.

[pointman]

As a Warriors fan I haven't seen much of him and from the highlights I've seen he doesn't seem to be able to finish strong at the rim (no dunks?). He shoots 37% in the paint but is a true PG. That's about all I know. Is he an Andre Miller type that plays below the rim?

Can someone break down Marcus Williams' game?

[lurkingobeiscity]

Good ball handler with a sick cross but no conditioning/explosion (not sure which) for him to get past his man after beating him. He needs to get a midrange game because he has trouble getting his shot to fall when going all the way to the rim. Can't finish with his right. He's a good shooter whose average suffered some from a wrist injury. He is a good and willing passer (great vision) but he doesn't seem to understand where he needs to be and what he needs to do at the pro level so he can get certain passes off (for instance has some trouble with the big man defender on a pick and roll because he doesn't always press the attack coming off the screen, which gives him less passing angles). A midrange game, floater (which he had shown some glimpses of) and some savvy would make him an excellent offensive PG.

Defensively he is absolutely awful. Marcus is held back by his athleticism/conditioning, but he also doesn't give consistent effort (though effort has improved somewhat). He gets caught easily on screens. Doesn't show great court awareness for team defense.

Marcus Williams' biggest problem is his commitment. He is basically the same player he was two years ago when he was drafted. Still poorly conditioned and still a bad defender. He may have a lot of offensive potential but it is very doubtful that he ever works hard enough to achieve it. Its not just a matter of if the light comes on, but rather it needs to come on and stay on even after he has a little success. I expect him to improve some, but never achieve the levels he could have (could have been a top PG. He will forever be somewhere between bust and solid offensive PG starter).

Golden State should be a perfect place for Marcus since he'd be at his best in a wide-open system where his court-vision may make up for some of his other shortcomings. It also brings him closer to home (LA I believe) and his mother is a good influence in his life.

[pointman]

Thanks a lot lurkingobeiscity!