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Re: Belinelli 

Post#61 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:20 pm

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Re: Belinelli 

Post#62 » by floppymoose » Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:01 pm

Preludepunk27 wrote:Is there a way I can block Stro's posts from threads? I thought it used to be an option.

There is. Click on the username of the user you want to block. Then when you get taken to the user page, there will be a link "Add foe". Click that link. It's a far more confusing user interface than the old ignore feature the site used to have, but it does at least work.
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Re: Belinelli 

Post#63 » by Preludepunk27 » Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:19 pm

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Re: Belinelli 

Post#64 » by old rem » Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:34 am

Preludepunk27 wrote:Biedrins is totally better than both of those guys, in or out of Nellie's system at this point in all 3 of their careers. If Biedrins could up his FT% to about 65%, it wouldn't even be close. You could make an argument on Turiaf though.


Not really. Turiaf already had a good lead on Swift + Sean and improved a lot more than I expected. He's been great on D....like 2 blocks per off the bench. Swift, if as good as any of GSW's front court would still be in Memphis or Houston. Sean W..if as good would not be the main guy NJN is trying to shop.

Someone thinks Swift is quicker than Biedrins? :lol: Maybe 5 years ago.
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Re: Belinelli 

Post#65 » by rag-time4 » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:23 pm

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Preludepunk27 wrote:Biedrins is totally better than both of those guys, in or out of Nellie's system at this point in all 3 of their careers. If Biedrins could up his FT% to about 65%, it wouldn't even be close. You could make an argument on Turiaf though.


Not really. Turiaf already had a good lead on Swift + Sean and improved a lot more than I expected. He's been great on D....like 2 blocks per off the bench. Swift, if as good as any of GSW's front court would still be in Memphis or Houston. Sean W..if as good would not be the main guy NJN is trying to shop.

Someone thinks Swift is quicker than Biedrins? :lol: Maybe 5 years ago.


Swift is one of the most athletic players in the league. He's got great quickness and an explosive first step on offense and defense.

As for Turiaf's block totals... he got a big chunk of his blocks in the first 2 games... I'm not buying him as a defensive presence. I think he's been getting tested a lot and has given up far more baskets than he's giving up. I never saw Turiaf as a very explosive player...

He doesn't have the explosive athleticism of Stromile Swift, who dunked on Turiaf and the flopping Odom here
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Post#66 » by SpeedyG » Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:48 am

Stro's an incredible athlete. It's too bad his BB IQ is an equivalent to the percentage of his body fat.
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Re: Belinelli 

Post#67 » by Chris Morris » Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:28 am

SpeedyG wrote:Stro's an incredible athlete. It's too bad his BB IQ is an equivalent to the percentage of his body fat.

OH SNAP...I think.

Stro needs a positive influence. Someone from the coaching staff needs to take him under their wing and groom him into the solid player that he can be.
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Re: Belinelli 

Post#68 » by rag-time4 » Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:58 am

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SpeedyG wrote:Stro's an incredible athlete. It's too bad his BB IQ is an equivalent to the percentage of his body fat.

OH SNAP...I think.

Stro needs a positive influence. Someone from the coaching staff needs to take him under their wing and groom him into the solid player that he can be.
Somebody like Roy Rogers? He might be seen by some as a similar player except Swift is a better shooter and scorer than Rogers ever was.
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Re: Belinelli 

Post#69 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:21 am

rag-time4 wrote:
Chris Morris wrote:
SpeedyG wrote:Stro's an incredible athlete. It's too bad his BB IQ is an equivalent to the percentage of his body fat.

OH SNAP...I think.

Stro needs a positive influence. Someone from the coaching staff needs to take him under their wing and groom him into the solid player that he can be.
Somebody like Roy Rogers? He might be seen by some as a similar player except Swift is a better shooter and scorer than Rogers ever was.

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Re: Belinelli 

Post#70 » by old rem » Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:45 am

Chris Morris wrote:
SpeedyG wrote:Stro's an incredible athlete. It's too bad his BB IQ is an equivalent to the percentage of his body fat.

OH SNAP...I think.

Stro needs a positive influence. Someone from the coaching staff needs to take him under their wing and groom him into the solid player that he can be.


Great Idea....like teaching a chicken to do algebra. Try enough times and who knows?
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Re: Belinelli 

Post#71 » by old rem » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:16 pm

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Preludepunk27 wrote:Biedrins is totally better than both of those guys, in or out of Nellie's system at this point in all 3 of their careers. If Biedrins could up his FT% to about 65%, it wouldn't even be close. You could make an argument on Turiaf though.


I'm not a fan of Biedrins at all, but he's better than Josh Boone. He has nowhere near the versatility or quickness on both ends as Stromile Swift, but he has a little more size. I think the way Nelly plays there, Swift is the far better fit. Williams and Biedrins may be a toss-up, because I don't know if Williams has the ball handlingand slashing ability of Swift.


Swift is a mediocrity who got beat out by Chuck Hayes in Houston, and pretty much anyone at Memphis. Biedrins is better than Boone-Swift-Williams combined,and GSW would not trade him for anything on the NJ roster,or everything on the NJ roster. For Nellie? Nellie counts on Biedrins to be most of the rebounding, Most of the interior D and the only power scorer.

Nellie is not at ALL patient with big men who have a shaky work ethic or play dumb or sloppy...Boone, while never too special, is steady and Nellie would use him. Swift? He'd veto getting Swift unless it was pure salary dump. Sean W? I'd give it a week or 2 and he's in the doghouse.

With Harrington already traded..Swift is no longer relevant. NJ does not want to swap anyone GSW wants.
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Re: Belinelli 

Post#72 » by jerseyjac » Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:09 pm

floppymoose wrote:
rag-time4 wrote:I think that Swift and Williamd are both better than Biedrins and Turiaf.


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rag-time4 wrote:
Preludepunk27 wrote:Biedrins is totally better than both of those guys, in or out of Nellie's system at this point in all 3 of their careers. If Biedrins could up his FT% to about 65%, it wouldn't even be close. You could make an argument on Turiaf though.


I'm not a fan of Biedrins at all, but he's better than Josh Boone. He has nowhere near the versatility or quickness on both ends as Stromile Swift, but he has a little more size. I think the way Nelly plays there, Swift is the far better fit. Williams and Biedrins may be a toss-up, because I don't know if Williams has the ball handlingand slashing ability of Swift.


do some stat research on Biedrins...I'm surprised you missed his numbers...and before you bring it up, I know he doesnt shoot a good ft %, and Swift actually might be the better ft shooter... :o ...

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Preludepunk27 wrote:Is there a way I can block Stro's posts from threads? I thought it used to be an option.

There is. Click on the username of the user you want to block. Then when you get taken to the user page, there will be a link "Add foe". Click that link. It's a far more confusing user interface than the old ignore feature the site used to have, but it does at least work.


thanx floppy...
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Re: Belinelli 

Post#73 » by jerseyjac » Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:11 pm

yep, this thread is starting to look like Silence of the Lambs....
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Re: Belinelli 

Post#74 » by old rem » Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:43 pm

jerseyjac wrote:yep, this thread is starting to look like Silence of the Lambs....


....pass the Chianti :football:
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