Revisiting the Nets 2010 Salary Cap Plan

[vincecarter4pres]

I know it's a stretch, but I wonder if we could get Amare for Yi/SWAT/Swift/Ager/Hassel/1st rounder unprotected/GS 1st?

I personally don't even like Amare much, but he would make us pretty damn legit in the East with the rest of the lineup we have.

In all honesty, I still think it only makes us maybe ties for 3rd in the East next year, behind Cleveland and Boston and probably about even with Orlando, but it would be interesting.

[BigWil17]

I think it's more important to have tradeable pieces in 2010 than it is to have an overabundance of cap space. Sure we want to have close to max space, but it should only be used as a bargaining chip.

I say this because as we know, the CBA allows a player to make much more guaranteed money if he re-signs with his own team. How many players would be willing to part with the higher raises and extra year of big time money? So I believe the best way to get the best free agents that year would be via the sign and trade. The free agent gets a true max deal and the team losing the player gets something tangible back. We would end up spending more money and giving up players and/or picks, but at least this would make our team more appealing to those top guys. So I believe that the only reason we need max cap space is to force the other team to negotiate with us, or else we'll just sign him by ourselves.

[vincecarter4pres]

Normally in a S&T of a UFA, the compensation recieved for the team sign and trading said player is very minimal. Maybe a 2nd rounder or 2, at best a crappy 1st, which is actually still pretty rare.

[BigWil17]

Normally in a S&T of a UFA, the compensation recieved for the team sign and trading said player is very minimal. Maybe a 2nd rounder or 2, at best a crappy 1st, which is actually still pretty rare.

That sounds good to me, but with so many teams being under the cap, there may be other teams taking the same tact. This would obviously drive up the S&T price. However, it IS more likely that Lebron or another top free agent would definitely dictate the specific team they want to go to, thereby making the compensation minimal on our end. We would have to make this team that much more desireable to them so that they definitely want to be here, and not anywhere else.

[jerseyjac]

Before someone brings up Newark, I think Spike's show DEA will be in Newark this season. The commercial says "One of the worse cities in the US"

Though I am looking to move to NJ, Newark isnt a place I will visit often. That may change in future but I have been there so far.

They have a basketball team in washington, the homicide capitol of the USA. houston is another horrible city (crime wise) and they have a team. and you think Brooklyn is a safer place than Newark???

Honestly, there are some cool parts of Newark actually, but yeah the bad parts are BAD.

Actually my father owns a gas station in one of the "cool parts" of newark about 1 mile north of the prudential center and someone just broke into it monday morning and trashed the place. i gotta admit it got me pissed, the most ive ever been in my life but i still think it would be great to have a team in newark.

I am from Brooklyn. Where the Brooklyn Arenas MAY BE is pretty decent. Clinton Hills, Fort Greene and Parks Slopes have been up an coming areas. I can even go further to certain Parts of Eastern Parkway. The whole area has been changing for over 10 years now. So the arena would just be an add on to the area. Correct me if I am wrong, In Newark the Arena is or was the starting point of the area changing. There is the difference.

I work in Newark everyday...downtown, uptown...you name it...the NJPAC Center was actually the initial revitalization point...bringing people into Newark who would not of normally visited the city...

If you come down McCarter Highway-Rt 21 South, first passing the rear of the Newark Bears, Riverfront stadium on your right along the river, the NJPAC center is on your right...basic resurfacing of roads and sidewalks have be done here...the NJTransit, subway, ect...has new terminals...nothing crazy...above ground, ect...the Rock is located between Mullberry and Broad St ...the same has been done here as far as resurfacing of sidewalks...new parking garages and lots have been put in place adjacent to the arena...as you drive down Broad St, passing the arena on your right, you'll see part of Broad St redone, center median, crosswalks, ect... this is the immediate downtown area...a couple new stores/restaurants are in the are, nothing crazy...If you go off Broad onto Park Pl you'll run into the NJPAC center...If you continue down Broad St, you also pass the front of Newark Bear's stadium, that area outside has been redone similarly...

between the NJPAC, Prudential Center and Newark Bears stadium...in the last 5 yrs or so, it definitely looks nicer...Newark has be bulding new homes during this period everywhere...A lot of NHA projects/apts have been torn down with new condos, townhomes and 3 family residences being built...a lot of these are for section 8 people who are being relocated...this is part of the "cleaning up" aspect of the city/resedential area of Newark...

So its gotten better downtown, and I'm sure more stores and restaraunts will open in the near future...Its very difficult to change a city like Newark...there are certain areas like where UMDNJ is located...new condos/town houses have been built for mostly people who work at the Hospital, but as far as moving to Newark, its definitely not appealing...the are a lot of nice suburbs of Newark in Essex/Union counties w/in 5-10 miles of the downtown area where I reside...and if you really want to stay close to NYC/Brooklyn those are the two counties I would start with ...property taxes are higher, but thats part of living in New Jersey in that area...

If you watched Jacked on A & E...that exploited a very good reason to stay away from Newark....my family was born and raised in Newark...and I'll be married in Newark soooo...if you know it, grew up around it, near it or in it...you become numb to what goes on...I give Mayor Corey Booker a lot of credit for cleaning it up...but its a lot of the same people living in different homes...Its difficult to change who lives there...but again, its becoming cleaner and a more modern city which is very refreshing to the suburbs of Newark, NJ...

[vincecarter4pres]

Jacked was an awesome series.
I don't see it on anymore though.

It is hard to candy coat Newark.
Not the nicest place.
Like you said, if you grew up in the city or around it, you basically become numb to it and it seems normal, like nothing is wrong, but if you aren't from the area people tend to be shocked by the pure anarchy and melay of the city.
I was just down by Clinton Place earlier this morning, by Keer, and it's funny how it goes from decent houses and lawns to projects and crack houses, just in a few blocks difference, either by Nye, Lyons and Bergen and then even into Hillside by Coit, just as an example of that side of Newark.

Well at least it isn't Trenton, lol.

[Preludepunk27]

There are some DYNAMITE restaurants in Newark though

[vincecarter4pres]

^^^Without a doubt.

[jerseyjac]

There are some DYNAMITE restaurants in Newark though

definitely just go down to Ferry St...numerous restarunts...Portuguese anyone... Havent been to Don Pepe's lately but I heard they got a nice facelift inside...gonna have a party at a restaraunt soon in NWK...still in the process of choosing...I'm bad w. names...feel free to name some of the ones you enjoy...my finace is making a list too...

[jerseyjac]

Jacked was an awesome series.
I don't see it on anymore though.

It is hard to candy coat Newark.
Not the nicest place.
Like you said, if you grew up in the city or around it, you basically become numb to it and it seems normal, like nothing is wrong, but if you aren't from the area people tend to be shocked by the pure anarchy and melay of the city.
I was just down by Clinton Place earlier this morning, by Keer, and it's funny how it goes from decent houses and lawns to projects and crack houses, just in a few blocks difference, either by Nye, Lyons and Bergen and then even into Hillside by Coit, just as an example of that side of Newark.

Well at least it isn't Trenton, lol.

http://www.greenbuildingsnyc.com/2007/1 ... newark-nj/
http://www.downtownnewark.com/NDD_streetscape.html

exaclty there are areas that are maintained better than others, like you mentioned above...buut some the same crap goes on in those houses/area, despite appearance being better, that does in run down homes...in the 1960s in or around that time, even further back...for whatever reason, the trend was to built apts straight up...this era has almost been fased out...just like NYC's projects...these apt buildings fell apart from the inside out with amount drug trafficing conducted inside its walls, w/out any confrontation from outside authorities and the decreased risk of moving/selling drugs...what manifested over the years is the exact result of the demolition of say the Grafton Ave projects...not that the new so-called condos are really doing that much better, but they are preventing the same type of drug movement these high rise buildings created...

Move onto the Orange St and the NHA apts within that particular area or down off Raymond Blvd wherre you find the Roosevelt Projects/Millard Terrell Homes, these homes/apts were built in 1946...take a drive down to Frelinghuysen Ave over to the Seth Boyden projects and you have some of same issues...these apts are out dated and are key areas that need redevelopement/rennovation/ or even better demolition...but you have to find a place to put the people first and its a big obstacle...

but no, Newark is not Trenton, you can visually see the city's direction and push to make it a better area...Essex county as whole...East Orange is doing much of the same...its promising to see for the families living in these areas...

and btw I'm excited for DEA Tues Feb 10th on spike...its gonna be the real deal...a good glimpse on the war against drugs...

[Rich Rane]

There are some DYNAMITE restaurants in Newark though

Anyone ever been to Iberia? Not bad. Had their paella. Gave me a whole damn pot of it.

[vincecarter4pres]

I stopped going there a couple years ago. They fell off. I don'tknow if they are better again, but they got pretty crappy for a while.

I prefer Fernandez.

[Rich Rane]

I stopped going there a couple years ago. They fell off. I don'tknow if they are better again, but they got pretty crappy for a while.

I prefer Fernandez.

It was the first time I've been there in a couple of years. I thought it was fine.

If I'm ever in the area again, I'll try Fernandez.

[Preludepunk27]

There are some DYNAMITE restaurants in Newark though

definitely just go down to Ferry St...numerous restarunts...Portuguese anyone... Havent been to Don Pepe's lately but I heard they got a nice facelift inside...gonna have a party at a restaraunt soon in NWK...still in the process of choosing...I'm bad w. names...feel free to name some of the ones you enjoy...my finace is making a list too...

Yes. Newark without a shadow of a doubt has the best Portuguese restaurants in Jersey. Paella is like crack rock to me.