Chisholm's Year in Review: Nets Have a Promising Base

[bballCT]

Article from TSN.ca:
http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/tim_chisholm/?id=275170

This team needs to continue to develop their youth and build with patience around Devin Harris and rookie-standout Brook Lopez. They need to go about adding an athletic, scoring power forward to compliment Lopez's fundamental post game. They need a three-point shooter behind the line to pull defenses off of those guys and off of Devin Harris on drives, and the team needs an athletic wing player to lead the reserve crew while taking in the tutelage of Vince Carter.

[S.I.C. GM]

I disagree with this guy.

We need a defensive PF not a scoring PF. We need someone that is going to rebound and defend. If he can score that is a plus, but we need a tough guy that is going to push people around.

[Preludepunk27]

Problem is with a defensive guy, most of them play both ends of the floor close to the basket. Brook has a decent jumper, but I'd like a guy who can pull his defender out of the paint to get Brook more isolation situations. For example, a guy like Tyson Chandler would be miserable in my opinion playing next to Brook. A team won't play him honest when the ball is on Brook's side. That's just my opinion, but I obviously could be wrong. I think a guy similar to David West would be unreal to pair next to Brook. If we can land a guy like that in the draft or trade for a guy with similar qualities, I'd LOVE life.

We need a guy who is a decent defender, but more importantly can spread the floor to allow Brook to work his game. He doesn't have to be an amazing defender in my opinion, just someone who understands how help defense works and can force his man to the spots of the floor that play into our defensive schemes. I think with our young bigs, that is the one major flaw I see in all of them. Ryan is the closest to doing this...but he's not athletic enough to execute it against certain matchups.

[deviljets7]

Problem is with a defensive guy, most of them play both ends of the floor close to the basket. Brook has a decent jumper, but I'd like a guy who can pull his defender out of the paint to get Brook more isolation situations. For example, a guy like Tyson Chandler would be miserable in my opinion playing next to Brook. A team won't play him honest when the ball is on Brook's side. That's just my opinion, but I obviously could be wrong. I think a guy similar to David West would be unreal to pair next to Brook. If we can land a guy like that in the draft or trade for a guy with similar qualities, I'd LOVE life.

We need a guy who is a decent defender, but more importantly can spread the floor to allow Brook to work his game. He doesn't have to be an amazing defender in my opinion, just someone who understands how help defense works and can force his man to the spots of the floor that play into our defensive schemes. I think with our young bigs, that is the one major flaw I see in all of them. Ryan is the closest to doing this...but he's not athletic enough to execute it against certain matchups.

Prelude,

I completely see you're argument. Unfortunately I don't know if the Nets have the pieces to land that guy who can do all of these things. While they don't necessarily have the ideal defense/athleticism Anderson/Yi when they are on have the ability to spread the floor. Assuming that "perfect" PF option isn't there, the goal should probably be to land that defensive big who can also play C. This way, depending on the matchup you can pair Brook with either the defender or the shooter. Right now that option isn't there.

[Preludepunk27]

Oh I totally understand your point Devil. You're pretty on the money. Unfortunately, there is no big man in this draft that really meets my description. My dream is for Earl Clark to get a consistant midrange and for someone to light a fire under his @$$ because I think he'd be great next to Brook. Ultimately, if we go with a SG or SF in the draft, I'm willing to wait and try to land Patrick Patterson the following year (isn't he going back to school). It's a player I think PP would play extremely well next to Brook.

What defensive minded big men would everyone be interested in to play next to Brook? There really isn't one worth taking at our pick so it's either trade up for Thabeet or down for someone I don't know. Is there an unrestricted people would rather try to land with the MLE and draft Derozan instead?

[aussienet]

Hey guy's just spit ballin here. but what are your thoughts on using our second round pick from GSW on a bruiser PF (is there one out there?) I was keen on us taking Joe Dorsey (from Memphis) or Nathan Jawai (from Australia) last year but I would never complain about us takin CDR instead.

Thoughts?

[deviljets7]

Oh I totally understand your point Devil. You're pretty on the money. Unfortunately, there is no big man in this draft that really meets my description. My dream is for Earl Clark to get a consistant midrange and for someone to light a fire under his @$$ because I think he'd be great next to Brook. Ultimately, if we go with a SG or SF in the draft, I'm willing to wait and try to land Patrick Patterson the following year (isn't he going back to school). It's a player I think PP would play extremely well next to Brook.

What defensive minded big men would everyone be interested in to play next to Brook? There really isn't one worth taking at our pick so it's either trade up for Thabeet or down for someone I don't know. Is there an unrestricted people would rather try to land with the MLE and draft Derozan instead?

I'll admit I'm not sure what PFs off the top of my head would fit that description in this draft other than Thabeet. Considering how poor this draft is (especially in terms of bigs), I don't know if such a defensive big exists. Based on the stuff I'm reading, Gani Lawal from Georgia Tech might fit that description, but he's a major project. DX currently has him going #25. Wake's James Johnson also sounds interesting (#16 in DX), but is probably not that type of defender.

Honestly if DeRozan is there at #11 its a no-brainer, but based on recent buzz, I don't think there's a chance in hell of him falling to us.

[Preludepunk27]

Hey guy's just spit ballin here. but what are your thoughts on using our second round pick from GSW on a bruiser PF (is there one out there?) I was keen on us taking Joe Dorsey (from Memphis) or Nathan Jawai (from Australia) last year but I would never complain about us takin CDR instead.

Thoughts?

To my knowledge...we don't have a 2nd round pick from GSW. The restriction is for the 2010-2011 season. If they make the playoffs that season, we get their first round pick in 2011. If they miss the playoffs, we get their 2nd round pick. I'm pretty sure we only have our 1st rounder and that's it. Of course, I could be living under a rock.

[SteveNets15]

I disagree with this guy.

We need a defensive PF not a scoring PF. We need someone that is going to rebound and defend. If he can score that is a plus, but we need a tough guy that is going to push people around.

So would you send Paul Milsap(restricted)an offer sheet? How about Rasheed Wallace(player option)? He does everything you want and he can score.

Problem is with a defensive guy, most of them play both ends of the floor close to the basket. Brook has a decent jumper, but I'd like a guy who can pull his defender out of the paint to get Brook more isolation situations. For example, a guy like Tyson Chandler would be miserable in my opinion playing next to Brook. A team won't play him honest when the ball is on Brook's side. That's just my opinion, but I obviously could be wrong. I think a guy similar to David West would be unreal to pair next to Brook. If we can land a guy like that in the draft or trade for a guy with similar qualities, I'd LOVE life.

We need a guy who is a decent defender, but more importantly can spread the floor to allow Brook to work his game. He doesn't have to be an amazing defender in my opinion, just someone who understands how help defense works and can force his man to the spots of the floor that play into our defensive schemes. I think with our young bigs, that is the one major flaw I see in all of them. Ryan is the closest to doing this...but he's not athletic enough to execute it against certain matchups.

So who do you want? Charlie Villanueva(restricted) or Al Harrington(player option)


Rasheed would be perfect right? I was just daydreaming again.

[Preludepunk27]

Charlie isn't my "ideal" guy because I question his heart, but yes he'd be on my list. Al not so much. He's a tremendous athlete and, you're correct, he fits my mold, but he'd be low on my list. I really don't have an argument as to why he'd be low, I just don't want him.

Sheed 5 years ago would have been perfect.

[SteveNets15]

^^^^^^^^Dam 5 years ago Not even a 2 year deal? He's got a little gas left in the tank doesn't he.I haven't really seen him play this year.

[S.I.C. GM]

^^^^^^^^Dam 5 years ago Not even a 2 year deal? He's got a little gas left in the tank doesn't he.I haven't really seen him play this year.

I still think of that rumor trade the year Detroit got Sheed.

K-Mart for Sheed and Paterson.

We would have won a title that year. Fawkers!!!!!

[SteveNets15]

^^^^^^^^Dam 5 years ago Not even a 2 year deal? He's got a little gas left in the tank doesn't he.I haven't really seen him play this year.

I still think of that rumor trade the year Detroit got Sheed.

K-Mart for Sheed and Paterson.

We would have won a title that year. Fawkers!!!!!

Rod tried to block that trade We still could've beat them if Jkidd and Kmart were healthy.Now i'm mad because i remember the feeling i had after game 6.AAAAHHHHHHH Fawkers! thanks a lot SIC

[aussienet]

Hey guy's just spit ballin here. but what are your thoughts on using our second round pick from GSW on a bruiser PF (is there one out there?) I was keen on us taking Joe Dorsey (from Memphis) or Nathan Jawai (from Australia) last year but I would never complain about us takin CDR instead.

Thoughts?

To my knowledge...we don't have a 2nd round pick from GSW. The restriction is for the 2010-2011 season. If they make the playoffs that season, we get their first round pick in 2011. If they miss the playoffs, we get their 2nd round pick. I'm pretty sure we only have our 1st rounder and that's it. Of course, I could be living under a rock.

Oh my bad i thought it was ours whenever we wanted. I think i remember something about it turning into 2 2nd round draft picks. Again i could be wrong Can anyone help?

[Preludepunk27]

Yeah I think if they miss the playoffs in the 2010-2011 season, it's actually a 2011 and 2013 2nd round pick or something like that. Regardless, it's a pick I'm 99% sure we won't use.

[vincecarter4pres]

If GS makes the playoffs this coming season, I believe the pick is ours. In 2011 the pick becomes top 12 protected and in 2012 it is top 11 protected. If in 2012 the pick is still a top 11 pick or better, their 2nd rounder that season and 2013 becomes ours. Rod is a genious.

[deviljets7]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/423/story/664652.html

This may be a long shot, but based on this you have to at least wonder if Okafor could be in play for the right deal.

[aussienet]

Yeah I think if they miss the playoffs in the 2010-2011 season, it's actually a 2011 and 2013 2nd round pick or something like that. Regardless, it's a pick I'm 99% sure we won't use.

Why not? Financial reasons? I'm pretty sure if Thorn new he had a rough diamond in the second round in those years he would make it happen.