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Re: Direction of the Nets 

Post#21 » by NetsForce » Fri May 22, 2009 12:49 am

^ To be fair Kittles' career was OVER when he was traded to the Clippers so that was a GREAT trade ^

And there's NO WAY Martin was worth that contract the fact that the Nets got 3 first rounders in return for him speaks volume to how dumb Kiki was.
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Re: Direction of the Nets 

Post#22 » by amk482 » Fri May 22, 2009 1:03 am

NetsForce wrote:^ To be fair Kittles' career was OVER when he was traded to the Clippers so that was a GREAT trade ^

And there's NO WAY Martin was worth that contract the fact that the Nets got 3 first rounders in return for him speaks volume to how dumb Kiki was.


I think you meant to say how dumb Kiki IS!!! Najera, Simmons and Yi - great moves. And I agree the Kmart contract was absurd and Kittles was injured when he got moved.
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Post#23 » by NetsForce » Fri May 22, 2009 1:22 am

I still like the Simmons & Yi move. Remember without trading RJ there is no 2010.

The Najera signing though? That blew... Hard...
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Re: Direction of the Nets 

Post#24 » by aussienet » Fri May 22, 2009 4:03 am

NetsForce wrote:^ To be fair Kittles' career was OVER when he was traded to the Clippers so that was a GREAT trade ^

And there's NO WAY Martin was worth that contract the fact that the Nets got 3 first rounders in return for him speaks volume to how dumb Kiki was.


As usual I agree with you mate, but don't you think Thorn's hand was forced by Ratners Cheapskateness? Thorn's ability to mug the raptors to get VC overshadowed those other deals?

But anyways Kerry was one of my all time favourite nets and i just hated him being in a Clippers uni. On a side note was Kmart healthy when he signed that contract?
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Re: Direction of the Nets 

Post#25 » by amk482 » Fri May 22, 2009 9:41 am

On a side note was Kmart healthy when he signed that contract?
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He was in a relative sense but there were concerns about his long term health considering his prior injuries. He subsequently was injured and had another major knee surgery. I think he might be th eonly player to have microfractire surgery on both knees and still come back...
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Re: Direction of the Nets 

Post#26 » by S.I.C. GM » Fri May 22, 2009 1:20 pm

NetsForce wrote:^ To be fair Kittles' career was OVER when he was traded to the Clippers so that was a GREAT trade ^

And there's NO WAY Martin was worth that contract the fact that the Nets got 3 first rounders in return for him speaks volume to how dumb Kiki was.


Granted I am not saying that he is the best GM, but Arent those same guys in the WCF + Billips.

Yeah I wouldnt have paid K-Mart that contract and traded those picks, but the guy was a Veteran PG, A motivated SF, and three injury prone PF/C away from having a very good Contending team.
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Re: Direction of the Nets 

Post#27 » by ib4 » Sat May 23, 2009 8:30 am

James Johnson is listed as a PF on alot of sites but from what I've seen, he's more of a slashing SF...i dunno if he can shoot
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Re: Direction of the Nets 

Post#28 » by amk482 » Sat May 23, 2009 10:49 am

ib4 wrote:James Johnson is listed as a PF on alot of sites but from what I've seen, he's more of a slashing SF...i dunno if he can shoot


offensively he is more of a faceup guy, but I think he is a 4 - if he measures a legit 6'8" he can play PF defensively becasue he seems strong enough and has long arms. This guy can finish in traffic and is aggressive. Seems like he would fit in nicely
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Re: Direction of the Nets 

Post#29 » by Stone » Sat May 23, 2009 12:47 pm

NetsForce wrote:And there's NO WAY Martin was worth that contract the fact that the Nets got 3 first rounders in return for him speaks volume to how dumb Kiki was.


Kiki also used a number five draft pick on Nikoloz Tskitishuily back in 02. One of the worst lottery picks of all time.
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Post#30 » by amk482 » Sat May 23, 2009 2:01 pm

This is probably going to come out the wrong way, but he also chose Ryan Anderson over Courtney Lee. On the flip side, you could play Monday morning QB and say similar things about GMs every year. But in allhonesty, Lee could have been our starting 2-guard for the next 10+ years (allowing us too move VC for something). While Anderson will be a solid pro and probably a solid rotation guy (As Thorn has stated before), I would rather have had Lee. Kiki seems to favor big players who can shoot. Dont get me wrong, I like Anderson alot, but if we had Lee instead of Anderson, we would be looking at a core of Haris, Lee and Lopez instead of just Harris and Lopez with Anderson as a top 8 guy. Maybe I'm picking a little bit too much on Kiki, but Im not sure Anderson was the BPA at #21 last year. You cant really give Kiki credit for Lopez and CDR since they fell into our laps. How CDR didnt go prior to #40 is insane. There wasnt really much thought needed as to who to pick.
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Re: Direction of the Nets 

Post#31 » by S.I.C. GM » Sat May 23, 2009 9:42 pm

amk482 wrote:This is probably going to come out the wrong way, but he also chose Ryan Anderson over Courtney Lee. On the flip side, you could play Monday morning QB and say similar things about GMs every year. But in allhonesty, Lee could have been our starting 2-guard for the next 10+ years (allowing us too move VC for something). While Anderson will be a solid pro and probably a solid rotation guy (As Thorn has stated before), I would rather have had Lee. Kiki seems to favor big players who can shoot. Dont get me wrong, I like Anderson alot, but if we had Lee instead of Anderson, we would be looking at a core of Haris, Lee and Lopez instead of just Harris and Lopez with Anderson as a top 8 guy. Maybe I'm picking a little bit too much on Kiki, but Im not sure Anderson was the BPA at #21 last year. You cant really give Kiki credit for Lopez and CDR since they fell into our laps. How CDR didnt go prior to #40 is insane. There wasnt really much thought needed as to who to pick.


I might be wrong on this but I dont think Kiki decides who to pick in the draft. I think that have a head scout the lives and breaths drafting as his job. He presents players and it is up to Thorn to decide. I also think the process is they have to tell Thorn why they should pick each player over the other. Kiki might give a suggestion but these scouts are the gurus. I dont remember his name but if u go on Netsdaily the guy has a blog.
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Re: Direction of the Nets 

Post#32 » by vincecarter4pres » Sat May 23, 2009 10:20 pm

I like Courtney Lee, he looks like he will be a very solid player, but I don't know why people are so down on Ryan Anderson. I still see a very similar player to Rashard Lewis, Rodney Rogers or Donyell Marshall. He could easily be the starting power forward or even small forward of the future, especially if you put a player like James Johnson next to him.

I think this franchise has a definite direction. Build with our youth through the draft and try to make the playoffs now. Keep VC as the veteran leader unless a really good value trade comes up for him and possibly make a trade to become a much better team if it is a trade we can't pass up comes, or if the said player coming in's contract doesn't run past 2011 and as long as the trade doesn't deplete us of our talented young players and keeps us on course to grow for the future.
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