How good can VC be defensively when motivated?

Super_Mario_3 · Post #1 » by **Super_Mario_3** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:18 am

Magic fan here. When motivated, can VC be counted on as a defensive stopper? i ask this because it seems kobe always has bad shooting games against the nets. is this just a coincidence? if not, does VC guard him really well. last season, kobe shot 10/36 in 2 games against you guys.

another thing i noticed, ray allen in his last 2 games against the nets (i didnt consider the first 2 since they were blowouts) only made 3.5 shots on only 8.5 attempts.

what do you think we can expect from VC when playing for a defensive minded coach like SVG?

thanks guys, your comments would be highly appreciated.

crazykidd2k6 · Post #2 » by **crazykidd2k6** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:42 am

When VC is motivated he is pretty much good at everything. I remember there was this game, I don't remember which team it was but I think it was last year, there was 10 seconds left in the clock and we were winning by one but it was the opponents ball. One of the guys got wide open but VC did an amazing defensive play to block the shot. It was great. Anyway don't expect him to be a Bruce Bowen stopper but if he just goes all out he is a pretty good all-around player.

Rockice_8 · Post #3 » by **Rockice_8** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:12 pm

I think VC gets up for Kobe thats why. He isn't a defensive liability he holds his own and contests shots. He put in a lot of effort on offense for us last year because we didn't have much and still played hard on defense. Combine that with his desire for a ring and you have yourself one hell of a player. On both ends.

ChampionRed · Post #4 » by **ChampionRed** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:56 pm

When fully motivated, Vince Carter can do anything he wants on the basketball court.

Preludepunk27 · Post #5 » by **Preludepunk27** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:29 pm

Netsultimatefan63 wrote:When fully motivated, Vince Carter can do anything he wants on the basketball court.

Bingo. I love Vince. Obviously he's starting to hit the last few productive years of his prime, but the guy is still more athletic than half the league and, when he wants to, can literally do anything he wants on both ends of the court. The fact he's playing on his first "championship caliber team" ever in his career, I anticipate he'll be motivated almost every night. Orlando will love him by season's end.

vincecarter4pres · Post #6 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:49 pm

He's a really solid defensive player, even when not motivated. It's an urban legend that he is a bad defensive player. If he has one glaring fault to his defensive game, it's that he cheats waaaaaaaaaaaaay to hard on double teams and leaves shooters wide open on the perimeter, it's like he just doesn't understand the concept no matter how many wide open 3's he gives up.

guess_wh0 · Post #7 » by **guess_wh0** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:58 am

crazykidd2k6 wrote:When VC is motivated he is pretty much good at everything. I remember there was this game, I don't remember which team it was but I think it was last year, there was 10 seconds left in the clock and we were winning by one but it was the opponents ball. One of the guys got wide open but VC did an amazing defensive play to block the shot. It was great. Anyway don't expect him to be a Bruce Bowen stopper but if he just goes all out he is a pretty good all-around player.

It was Ray Allen whose shot VC blocked. I remember watching that game.

ChampionRed · Post #8 » by **ChampionRed** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:50 am

guess_wh0 wrote:
crazykidd2k6 wrote:When VC is motivated he is pretty much good at everything. I remember there was this game, I don't remember which team it was but I think it was last year, there was 10 seconds left in the clock and we were winning by one but it was the opponents ball. One of the guys got wide open but VC did an amazing defensive play to block the shot. It was great. Anyway don't expect him to be a Bruce Bowen stopper but if he just goes all out he is a pretty good all-around player.

It was Ray Allen whose shot VC blocked. I remember watching that game.

We've lost to the Celtics 1000 straight times...There's no way he's talking about ray allen. Unless someone from the C's recovered the ball and scored at the buzzer.

halfHAVOC · Post #9 » by **halfHAVOC** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:11 am

have you not seen him play against kobe?

i recall many games where he all of a sudden looks like an nba all defensive player when he goes up against kobe.

lol on a serious note, hes a very good defender but sometimes hes lazy, but when hes motivated hes hard to score on because of his athletcism and IQ.

Revolutionistt · Post #10 » by **Revolutionistt** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:17 pm

halfHAVOC wrote:have you not seen him play against kobe?

i recall many games where he all of a sudden looks like an nba all defensive player when he goes up against kobe.

lol on a serious note, hes a very good defender but sometimes hes lazy, but when hes motivated hes hard to score on because of his athletcism and IQ.

11\25\2007 Bryant 7-21, 31 points (15-16 Free throws)
2\5\2008 Bryant 3-13, 6 points
11\25\2008 Bryant 5-17, 12 points
3\27\2009 Bryant 5-19, 14 points

halfHAVOC · Post #11 » by **halfHAVOC** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:38 pm

Revolutionistt wrote:
halfHAVOC wrote:have you not seen him play against kobe?

i recall many games where he all of a sudden looks like an nba all defensive player when he goes up against kobe.

lol on a serious note, hes a very good defender but sometimes hes lazy, but when hes motivated hes hard to score on because of his athletcism and IQ.

11\25\2007 Bryant 7-21, 31 points (15-16 Free throws)
2\5\2008 Bryant 3-13, 6 points
11\25\2008 Bryant 5-17, 12 points
3\27\2009 Bryant 5-19, 14 points

ya besides that 1st game with those BS FT's........ VC owned him but kobe did own him back VC didn't score much those games i think either......i was at that 11/25/08 game when kobe only had 12 points.

G_MoNeY · Post #12 » by **G_MoNeY** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:35 pm

Preludepunk27 wrote:
Netsultimatefan63 wrote:When fully motivated, Vince Carter can do anything he wants on the basketball court.

Bingo. I love Vince. Obviously he's starting to hit the last few productive years of his prime, but the guy is still more athletic than half the league and, when he wants to, can literally do anything he wants on both ends of the court. The fact he's playing on his first "championship caliber team" ever in his career, I anticipate he'll be motivated almost every night. Orlando will love him by season's end.

Couldn't have said it better myself. +1

The Skyhook · Post #13 » by **The Skyhook** » Sat Aug 1, 2009 6:19 pm

Revolutionistt wrote:
halfHAVOC wrote:have you not seen him play against kobe?

i recall many games where he all of a sudden looks like an nba all defensive player when he goes up against kobe.

lol on a serious note, hes a very good defender but sometimes hes lazy, but when hes motivated hes hard to score on because of his athletcism and IQ.

11\25\2007 Bryant 7-21, 31 points (15-16 Free throws)
2\5\2008 Bryant 3-13, 6 points
11\25\2008 Bryant 5-17, 12 points
3\27\2009 Bryant 5-19, 14 points

Damn I didn't know his number suffer so bad. But that 3/27/09 game was an away game for the Lakers and I remember Kobe geting hurt. I think he like hyperextended his knee right before the half and tried to play but wound up sitting down.

MichaelH · Post #14 » by **MichaelH** » Tue Aug 4, 2009 8:48 pm

nastneemz81 wrote:
Revolutionistt wrote:
halfHAVOC wrote:have you not seen him play against kobe?

i recall many games where he all of a sudden looks like an nba all defensive player when he goes up against kobe.

lol on a serious note, hes a very good defender but sometimes hes lazy, but when hes motivated hes hard to score on because of his athletcism and IQ.

11\25\2007 Bryant 7-21, 31 points (15-16 Free throws)
2\5\2008 Bryant 3-13, 6 points
11\25\2008 Bryant 5-17, 12 points
3\27\2009 Bryant 5-19, 14 points

Damn I didn't know his number suffer so bad. But that 3/27/09 game was an away game for the Lakers and I remember Kobe geting hurt. I think he like hyperextended his knee right before the half and tried to play but wound up sitting down.

You can't take 19 shots before even a half bro

diggity_88 · Post #15 » by **diggity_88** » Thu Aug 6, 2009 1:15 am

Netsultimatefan63 wrote:
guess_wh0 wrote:
crazykidd2k6 wrote:When VC is motivated he is pretty much good at everything. I remember there was this game, I don't remember which team it was but I think it was last year, there was 10 seconds left in the clock and we were winning by one but it was the opponents ball. One of the guys got wide open but VC did an amazing defensive play to block the shot. It was great. Anyway don't expect him to be a Bruce Bowen stopper but if he just goes all out he is a pretty good all-around player.

It was Ray Allen whose shot VC blocked. I remember watching that game.

We've lost to the Celtics 1000 straight times...There's no way he's talking about ray allen. Unless someone from the C's recovered the ball and scored at the buzzer.

I'm pretty sure he's talking about when Carter was on Toronto, and I think Allen was on Seattle.
Because I remember that game. But if he was talking about when Carter was on New Jersey then I have no idea.