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Post#41 » by deviljets7 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:18 am

^^^
Just using the Lakers as an example. If you added the mpg of their top 8 guys, they added up to 237.4, leaving in theory just 2:36 left for the roster. Yet there were two players (Vujacic and Powell) who were not in that top 8 who played in 60+ games and another (DJ Mbenga) who played in 49 games.
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Post#42 » by 60cent » Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:21 am

jeff1624 wrote:
Dexmor wrote:Id be happy if they got Harrington or Craig Smith.



You'd be the only one.



Replies like this is what keeps me from reading more and more. Puts a smile on my face.
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Post#43 » by Revolutionistt » Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:52 am

*sigh* is it so bad for me to want to have a team that can compete every single night???? even those 26 win temas with Marbury were entertaining because they would actually win every now and then. Much like people complaining about the World Cup this year and its lack of entertainment. I loved every second of the tournament because every team had something to play for. When I look at the Nets I dont see them playing for anything. Im sorry, you can say whatever you want but im not satisifed watching a bunch of players play to get a higher draft pick. If youre going to play, play to win. Yes my Herm Edwards post was serious. Look at the Warriors a few years ago, 8th seed beat the Mavs 1 seed. You wouldnt want to be in that arena when that happened??? No, most of you would rather miss the playoffs and get a draft pick and save money for some kid whos 15 and wait for him to mature and get him in the draft 4 years later. I like all of you but Im done here for a while. Ill be back when our free agent signings start to realize they made a mistake.
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Re: The Rotation? 

Post#44 » by SOUP » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:44 am

I for one am very excited with our squad. We have a great coaching staff that can really help further develop our talent. Our young guys have huge upside, don't fold just yet guys.
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Post#45 » by Dexmor » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:17 pm

Zoubek made the team? Didn't even know he got an invite. So did that pg?
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Post#46 » by enetric » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:58 pm

Revolutionistt wrote:*sigh* is it so bad for me to want to have a team that can compete every single night???? even those 26 win temas with Marbury were entertaining because they would actually win every now and then. Much like people complaining about the World Cup this year and its lack of entertainment. I loved every second of the tournament because every team had something to play for. When I look at the Nets I dont see them playing for anything. Im sorry, you can say whatever you want but im not satisifed watching a bunch of players play to get a higher draft pick. If youre going to play, play to win. Yes my Herm Edwards post was serious. Look at the Warriors a few years ago, 8th seed beat the Mavs 1 seed. You wouldnt want to be in that arena when that happened??? No, most of you would rather miss the playoffs and get a draft pick and save money for some kid whos 15 and wait for him to mature and get him in the draft 4 years later. I like all of you but Im done here for a while. Ill be back when our free agent signings start to realize they made a mistake.



Your problem is that you simply dont get the NBA. Comparing to other sports shows such a low level of understanding how the cap and smart contracts are the entire ball game. Team building is a much more cerebral thing in the NBA. You want to BS yourself with instant gratification that hey we can pull off the rare 1-8 or 2 -7 upset and you dont want to spend one second of your time asking yourself...if we do it...or we do what would most likely happen anyway....then where are we for the next 3-5 years? Could losing now have done SO MUCH MORE for us later???

You dont even want to tackle that question. You are impatient and want hope. For you false hope is better than NO HOPE and a better shot at a big piece that can help improve your team for a decade.

Be a Nix fan. They have been selling false hope for 9 straight years of losing records and nothing to show for it but the highest payroll it the NBA over that time frame. But hey...they got a McDuess, Zach, Marbury, Curry, Crawford, and on and on and on every year sent their lottery picks packing over and over.

Wanting to win a is a good thing. Not getting that wining slightly More wins now will cost you a lot more wins later is the issue here. Until you get that...you will never get this sport.
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Re: The Rotation? 

Post#47 » by PerkinsFor3 » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:29 pm

demens wrote:
ecuhus1981 wrote:Harris (34) - Lee (28) - Outlaw (28) - Favors (22) - Lopez (38)
Farmar (22) - Morrow (24) - Williams (26) - James (18)


James is our backup C?

Not enough minutes for all these guys. Someone needs to get traded.


I think a trade would be welcome too. Cash in on Twill before people start to understand this isnt fantasy? Petro and James backing up your big men looks extremely shabby. And Morrow being the only one who can shoot a lick (Outlaw can shoot a little too, but he shouldnt be your 3pt threat) isnt great either, especially if you're penciling him coming from the bench.

For one, I'd start Morrow. And see if a trade can land you a big man.
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Re: The Rotation? 

Post#48 » by Preludepunk27 » Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:16 pm

Dexmor wrote:Zoubek made the team? Didn't even know he got an invite. So did that pg?


We need a defensive presence, hustling center to come off the bench so Zoubek makes sense. I never liked him for the fact he played for Duke, but for the role he filled in college and will fill in the pros, there is always a need for a guy like him off the bench and I'm actually happy to have him.

As for the PG guy we invited to camp, I can't see him on the regular season roster at all. We have Harris/Farmar/Twill so I can't see him ever seeing the light of day unless we move Harris or possibly Twill (cringe) for a guy who plays a different position. I'd rather cut him, use his spot to sign a cheap vet PF to help Favors (maybe though, still don't know if I want to) and go from there.
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Re: The Rotation? 

Post#49 » by Preludepunk27 » Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:27 pm

loot wrote:
demens wrote:
ecuhus1981 wrote:Harris (34) - Lee (28) - Outlaw (28) - Favors (22) - Lopez (38)
Farmar (22) - Morrow (24) - Williams (26) - James (18)


James is our backup C?

Not enough minutes for all these guys. Someone needs to get traded.


I think a trade would be welcome too. Cash in on Twill before people start to understand this isnt fantasy? Petro and James backing up your big men looks extremely shabby. And Morrow being the only one who can shoot a lick (Outlaw can shoot a little too, but he shouldnt be your 3pt threat) isnt great either, especially if you're penciling him coming from the bench.

For one, I'd start Morrow. And see if a trade can land you a big man.


That is debatable based on how Avery wants to assemble his system. Morrow is a better scorer, but Lee is a better defender. Morrow can create his own shot better but is also a great spot shooter so you could definitely make an argument for him to be a starter.

If it were my team though, Lee would get the starting job, at least initially. Lee's shooting improved as the season went on last year. The problem was 2 things for me though. 1) Devin was never totally healthy and 2) Lee can not create his own shot and Dooling isn't really the type of true PG to get the ball in the spot Lee needed to be effective. I think when Devin was playing at the top of his game, Lee showed that he could be a starting SG. Is he a long term solution? I wouldn't say so, but his success is determined by how effective Devin is and, to another extent, how teams play Brook.

If it were me, again at least initially, I would want Morrow to be the scoring punch off the bench with the 2nd unit. He can play the 2 and spot 3 so he could still end up averaging over 20 minutes a game. I think Farmar and Morrow could be a solid front court tandem on the 2nd unit where Morrow may be used more like how Jason Terry is used in Dallas.

Either way, going into the season my starting 5 would be Devin/Lee/Outlaw/Hump (cringe for now)/Lopez.

Remember Avery did say in his interview the other day that it may take him until the all-star break to figure out what the actual starting line up should look like. I think most of us will debate this until that time as well because, honestly, we can make decent arguments for a lot of line ups.
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