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Re: Thorn's a rival now 

Post#41 » by jerseyjac » Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:38 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:I want to know why we are all so quick to judge and think that proky is ready to screw over the team when the season hasn't even started yet. We can sit here and say that we don't believe thorn or proky when they said that it was a mutual parting. IMO I think rod probably had a hard time dealing with the fact that proky was so involved with the ongoings of the franchise. Before he was under Rather who wouldn't know what a basketball was if he saw one. All Thorn had to do under Ratner was tell him about any moves he wanted to make and made sure not to add to the payroll. But now that Proky actually wants to have the final say on all the moves, I'm sure that Rod felt that he would no longer be running the show like he used to. Proky still wanted Rod there but with less power. I don't think Rod wanted to do that. Proky has a yacht that's worth millions and he's so rich that he doesn't even care or know where it is. Do you really think it was a money issue? I don't. I think it was a difference of management philosophy. If Proky is a good business man and wants an easier transition to the NBA, why push out a guy who has orchestrated some pretty significant deals, is well known and widely respected by players and GMs alike. To me it doesn't make sense.

When you have an owner who's meeting with free agents and is trying to bring them on board, you know he wants to he wants his brand to succeed whether he cares about the Nets as a team or not. He wants the final say and that's why he said that he's responsible if the Nets don't win in the timeframe he set. Normally, the gm is fired when deals don't pan out. How many owners are holding themselves accountable for their team's success?

I could be wrong but whenever a dispute goes down you always ask where is the money and who has the power. I think proky was willing to give up a lot of money but not a lot of power and Rod wanted more power. Just my opinion.

More power how?
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Post#42 » by mikhailjordan » Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:56 pm

Prokhorov basically took some C4 and blew apart the team's front office infrastructure. Which in my opinion was a brilliant and long overdue move.

The goal right now isn't just to build a good basketball team it's to build a financially sustainable (basketball) business model.
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Post#43 » by ChampionRed » Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:02 pm

The front office (at least on paper) looks pretty good right now and it looks like Proky made some pretty solid hirings in the scouting department.
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Post#44 » by jerseyjac » Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:03 pm

mikhailjordan wrote:Prokhorov basically took some C4 and blew apart the team's front office infrastructure. Which in my opinion was a brilliant and long overdue move.

The goal right now isn't just to build a good basketball team it's to build a financially sustainable (basketball) business model.

Its not even a question...but you know we'll most likely be sacrificing that championship in the process if he really forces the issue and is not willing to pay a star player and the lux tax...

Well, he's on the clock, 5 years, and ticking...
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Post#45 » by ChampionRed » Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:05 pm

jerseyjac wrote:
mikhailjordan wrote:Prokhorov basically took some C4 and blew apart the team's front office infrastructure. Which in my opinion was a brilliant and long overdue move.

The goal right now isn't just to build a good basketball team it's to build a financially sustainable (basketball) business model.

Its not even a question...but you know we'll most likely be sacrificing that championship in the process if he really forces the issue and is not willing to pay a star player and the lux tax...

Well, he's on the clock, 5 years, and ticking...


I'm pretty sure he said in an interview (I'll try to find it) that he's willing to pay the lux tax if a star player becomes available. I'm pretty sure that was in the Netsdaily interview or at LEAST a russian interview translated by Netsdaily.
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Re: Thorn's a rival now 

Post#46 » by jerseyjac » Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:20 am

Netsultimatefan63 wrote:
jerseyjac wrote:
mikhailjordan wrote:Prokhorov basically took some C4 and blew apart the team's front office infrastructure. Which in my opinion was a brilliant and long overdue move.

The goal right now isn't just to build a good basketball team it's to build a financially sustainable (basketball) business model.

Its not even a question...but you know we'll most likely be sacrificing that championship in the process if he really forces the issue and is not willing to pay a star player and the lux tax...

Well, he's on the clock, 5 years, and ticking...


I'm pretty sure he said in an interview (I'll try to find it) that he's willing to pay the lux tax if a star player becomes available. I'm pretty sure that was in the Netsdaily interview or at LEAST a russian interview translated by Netsdaily.

yeh find that link so we can post it to the Brooklyn sticky thread....thanks!
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Re: Thorn's a rival now 

Post#47 » by ChampionRed » Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:09 am

Wow I guess I was wrong...I'll keep looking but this is all I found so far which is the complete opposite of what I was saying! haha

Q: Are you planning on going beyond the luxury tax line?
A: These are two different concepts - team generating money and whether or not I'm paying luxury tax. Many things can change with the new CBA. But am I not expecting to go over the cap.


http://www.netsdaily.com/2010/8/7/16106 ... n-brooklyn

But in the same interview he also says this:

Q: What is your strategy for building a championship team?
A: You can become a champion quickly - that's our plan A, or you can build one gradually, that's our plan B. Plan A implies getting one or two superstars - Lebron, Wade and/or Bosh. Also, from all the players who became agents, we were only interested in them. We started realizing this strategy early - clearing salaries. But even on July 3, I had an understanding that we needed to go for plan B - slowly, through five years of building a new team. In the current stage of the plan, we're taking "not bad" players, whom we can later trade. For example, someone like Amare Stoudemire, who went to play for the Knicks, would be very difficult to trade later - he makes $17 million. We want flexibility - we want strong players, but those that you can call "tradeable assets". This is why right now we're calmly executing our five-year plan. If we just needed a team that was one of the best five, the strategy would have been much simpler, but we wanted a championship team.

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