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Re: Nets sign Johan Petro 

Post#41 » by mikhailjordan » Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:20 pm

So I threw it in excel and the average backup center is scheduled to make around $4.5 - $4.7 million next season. (number jumps up to $5.4 million if we remove guys on their rookie contracts and guys who are vastly overpaid / relics of the past (Dan Gadzuric, etc.).
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Re: Nets sign Johan Petro 

Post#42 » by vincecarter4pres » Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:23 pm

I still say this was a puke signing. We have Humphries and Favors to back up the 10 to 15 mpg needed at the 5. If you want to say there is something we truly need at this point it's a starting power forward, whether you prefer some faux star like Al Jeff, an aging guy like Scola or a trade for a average rotation guy like Brandon Bass.
Terrible signing. Waste of precious cap. Najera all over again. Thanks Thorn. You make a brilliant signing, a solid signing and then feel the need to even everything out with a stinker.
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Re: Nets sign Johan Petro 

Post#43 » by Basileus777 » Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:28 pm

How exactly is a 3.3 mil per contract going to take up our precious cap space when we already have so much room? Even in a worst case scenario it wouldn't be difficult to move. Hell, it could actually be useful as filler in a trade. Najera's deal didn't cost us anything in the end. The only reason it looked like it might was because of the unique situation this off-season.
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Re: Nets sign Johan Petro 

Post#44 » by mikhailjordan » Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:29 pm

VC as far as I'm concerned... The less Humphries plays the better. I don't like him as a center, at PF I'll live with it... I'm still with you in that this doesn't seem like a good use of cap space (makes more sense to give the minutes to Favors) but if Petro can at least match his career averages I don't think the Nets will have to give teams incentive to take him on in a trade (if they ever decide to trade him).
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Re: Nets sign Johan Petro 

Post#45 » by Hansel » Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:59 pm

I don't care if they spend the money, just spend it wisely. Petro's price apparently stems from interest overseas? If that's the case... move on from him. There is obviously a minimum cap so they need to spend some dollars. I just don't think those dollars need to span more than this upcoming season. It's not like they won't be able to sign guys like Petro next season to get to the minimum number again. As far as I'm concerned they can just keep doing this over the next couple of years (one year fliers on players they like, putting themselves within proper cap range).

In the end, the key is to maintain around 15 million dollars in cap going into the season. They NEED to be able to add Paul, Melo, even Granger (depending on price here obviously) if they become available. That cap space would be a huge asset to a trading team especially if they're dealing a stud in part because of financial constraints (New Orleans). If the signings end here then that is fine. I like Morrow and I like Outlaw. But following up Petro by slashing the available cap space even more with a guy like Scola would be a disaster.
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Re: Nets sign Johan Petro 

Post#46 » by Netaman » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:03 pm

Humphries, while a financial bargain, is useless to this team in the regular rotation. There's no benefit to starting him over Favors therefor he does nothing to diminish our need at that position. We still need to sign/trade for someone else. At center his hustle, defense, and rebounding are diminished making him a subpar backup.

As an expiring deal I don't mind him as the 5th big and insurance policy on injuries. Could be valuable filler for a trade.

I know many on here don't agree but I still think Al Jeff would be a nice pickup. 3 years/42 mil seems extremely reasonable in this market. He's still only 25 years old and he guy played in 76 games last year - though admittedly his 17-9 was a big step back from 23-11 he averaged from 07-09. I'd love to know what our cap situation is right now because although he's a little redundant with Brook, I think he could be a great value pickup.
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Re: Nets sign Johan Petro 

Post#47 » by SpeedyG » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:09 pm

Chillax Hansel, we have the room. And everything we've heard so far from Nets brass is, we won't spend for the sake of spending. So again, relax...don't do it..when you want to go to it....relax...don't do it...when you wanna come...
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Re: Nets sign Johan Petro 

Post#48 » by Hansel » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:22 pm

SpeedyG wrote:Chillax Hansel, we have the room. And everything we've heard so far from Nets brass is, we won't spend for the sake of spending. So again, relax...don't do it..when you want to go to it....relax...don't do it...when you wanna come...


But would we have the room with Scola? I think the Petro signing is pretty bad but realistically it doesn't matter much. It's the Scola followup that scares me.
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Re: Nets sign Johan Petro 

Post#49 » by Basileus777 » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:25 pm

Yeah, if the Scola rumors are true, then we have a reason for concern. I just don't think slightly overpaying a backup center is something to panic about.
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Re: Nets sign Johan Petro 

Post#50 » by jerseyjac » Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:16 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:This is the Najera signing all over again.

You guys are fooling yourselves if you say these guys have potential.

Yeah, Petro has potential, potential to become an actual NBA player...

I like Outlaw as well, but he is what he is already. He has the potential to get better, as in improve the areas in is his game he is already good at, but that's it.

Love the Morrow signing if it sticks, but again, he's not getting better, he is what he is, a mediocre defender and all time shooter.

This Petro signing is an incompetent one at best, waste of cap room for sure.

We get Scola and it's all over. We'll be a bonafied playoff team this year with limited upside and no chance at one last top 10 lotto stud and we'll be killing the majority of remaining cap to pull off a blockbuster or the slim chance Melo is available next year.

I'm really starting to legitimately question Thorn's vision. He was the best there was a while back, but he's fallen off. He doesn't adapt to circumstances and he's giving in to Avery too much.

I'll still root for this team as strong as ever, but it's all falling apart around us, we're soon to be the Atlanta Hawks or the Milwaukee Bucks...a highly competitive team that's fun to watch, but you know what it is when each and every season starts...around 50 wins and a second round exit at best.

Sigh...

personally, this isnt someone I would of looked at from the FA pool and said, "let get a deal done..."
I remember him coming out of France, going to the Sonics...and thats about it...

There is nothing particularly good to say about this signing, except he is fairly young...as far as I'm concerned, there is no window for potential and there is no expectations as far as production or even a true skill set...He does have NBA experience and he is a NBA backup center...

Othere than that, every other conversation or debate from this contract to his role with the Nets boils down to...WHO WANTED him...Avery? thorn? or maybe Mik's french girlfriend, who knows Petor's family...and asked for 10 million dollar favor...it doesnt make or break us...
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Re: Nets sign Johan Petro 

Post#51 » by jerseyjac » Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:19 pm

SpeedyG wrote:Chillax Hansel, we have the room. And everything we've heard so far from Nets brass is, we won't spend for the sake of spending. So again, relax...don't do it..when you want to go to it....relax...don't do it...when you wanna come...

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Re: Nets sign Johan Petro 

Post#52 » by cavsfan_osiris » Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:30 pm

This is not a bad pick up to fill out a roster.
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Re: Nets sign Johan Petro 

Post#53 » by SpeedyG » Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:14 am

jerseyjac wrote:
SpeedyG wrote:Chillax Hansel, we have the room. And everything we've heard so far from Nets brass is, we won't spend for the sake of spending. So again, relax...don't do it..when you want to go to it....relax...don't do it...when you wanna come...

:lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyl5DlrsU90


You're supposed to link the Mugatu clip from Zoolander :lol:
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Re: Nets sign Johan Petro 

Post#54 » by God Squad » Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:18 pm

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Post#55 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:30 pm

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Re: Nets sign Johan Petro 

Post#56 » by treiz » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:17 pm

SpeedyG wrote:
jerseyjac wrote:
SpeedyG wrote:Chillax Hansel, we have the room. And everything we've heard so far from Nets brass is, we won't spend for the sake of spending. So again, relax...don't do it..when you want to go to it....relax...don't do it...when you wanna come...

:lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyl5DlrsU90


You're supposed to link the Mugatu clip from Zoolander :lol:


I know this isn't the right clip, but it has to be posted due to the return of a Nets board legend.

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Re: Nets sign Johan Petro 

Post#57 » by Curtis Lemansky » Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:02 pm

How much pt is Petro expected to receive? I guess 10-12 mpg at best after Murphy trade, correct?
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Re: Nets sign Johan Petro 

Post#58 » by mikhailjordan » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:41 am

It's hard to say the roster situation is pretty fluid (Will Favors be ready? What's the deal with Humphries (Avery hasn't said a single word about him since he's been here)? At the very least your estimate seems about right. As the only real backup center worthy of minutes I can't see Petro getting less than 12 mpg...

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