NETS VS. KNICKS PRESEASON 7:30 PM (TODAY / TUESDAY!)

[Lamak]

Since the game is over and I have to go study, I'll give my analysis.

Lopez - Offensive game is even more insane than last year. He isn't really doing anything different from last year, but he's doing it all more effectively.

Outlaw - Played pretty bad. He doesn't really have a role in our offense right now. Just does whatever is needed.

Harris - Played a solid game and went to the line a couple of times, but was outshined by Farmar.

Morrow - Sucks. He can make 3s when he's open occasionally, can't do much of anything else.

Favors - Best game so far as a pro IMO. Is very active on defense and is athletic enough to run the floor and get alley oops. He isn't getting plays ran for him, but if he gets open someone will feed it to him.

James - Finally got some play time. Defense was great, made a couple shots.

T-Will - This idiot finally played a normal game. Handled the ball some and threw some nice passes, made a 3 and other jumpers. Beast in the lane with floaters and he didn't disrupt the offense for once.

Farmar - Star of the game. Took some ill advised shots but made them all. Seemed to command the offense and give the Nets as a whole life. Let's the game come to him then takes over.

[paul]

Refs have been pretty garbage. Amar'e gets all the calls.

Someone has to spoon-feed Amar'e.

Good one man. Just because Lopez can't handle him without fouling. There IS a reason he's worth a max contract you know..

Yeah, he's not worth a max contract.

Came on to say I thought Farmar played really well tonight, given the opportunity I think there's a chance he could beat out Harris at some point during the season for the starting gig.

[demens]

Lopez telegraph's all his passes but credit to Douglas though he plays the passing lanes well.

Yeap. Its funny, whenever i brought up how Lopez is a terrible passer last year people would throw that 1 give and go play they ran with CDR sometimes. Even though that play only worked like 1 out of every 5 times precisely because Lopez telegraphs his passes you could see that play coming before CDR even made his cut.

I just wanted Lopez to improve in 2 areas on offense. His post position and his passing. Cant judge the post play since he has not regained his strength, i fear that may be a lost cause this year. But i definitely see no improvement in the passing at all.

It looks like the Nets will force feed him on offense and he will be pretty effective while his defense suffers. But if teams chose to send doubles at him all these 3 point shooters we have will be useless cause they wont see much of the ball. If they are ok with grooming Lopez into an elite scorer and not worrying about his defense (ala Dirk), its not gonna happen until he learns how to pass.

Speaking of useless 3 point shooters, jeeshhh it might as well be 4 on 5 when Morrow is not hitting his shots. I'm sure he will catch fire and we will love him for stretches of the season and hate him for others, but to me he is becoming an overhyped version of Bobby Simmons. And his backup is just a non stop turnover machine. In a game where he wasnt even that involved he still managed to rack up 6 TOs. At least he got to the line a few times so thats a plus. I'd take someone who is not gonna take over games but wont **** up either like Lee over these 2 clowns.

[Bgil]

Move Farmar to the 2 and bring Devin back in Avery.

Farmar has problems guarding big PG's, he can't guard 2's.

[demens]

Favors - Best game so far as a pro IMO. Is very active on defense and is athletic enough to run the floor and get alley oops. He isn't getting plays ran for him, but if he gets open someone will feed it to him.


T-Will - This idiot finally played a normal game. Handled the ball some and threw some nice passes, made a 3 and other jumpers. Beast in the lane with floaters and he didn't disrupt the offense for once.

You realize he had 6 TOs right? And his floaters are the reason he goes 1-7 and 0-7 some quoters.

As for Favors, his main goal is just not to foul. He doens't deserve any plays called for him unless its a simple roll to the basket where he can finish/ Whats with him missing these monster jam attempts. Its his 3rd miss this preseason. He needs to take it easy and just dunk.

The fouls are too stupid though. Lets say 2 out of the 3 in the 1st half where bad calls. But a moving pick was terrible, 2nd time he fouled out on that kind of foul, the 1st time it was actually his 5th and 6th foul that where moving picks. The play on the fast break where Randolph drove at him and he turned his back trying to stay in front, that was a stupid foul too.

To think, people thought he'd average 10/8 this year and they were being conservative too. HA.

I do see potential in him. Its just upsetting that someone who cant play basketball was a 3rd overall pick thats all. After dreaming about John Wall all year, i dont think being disappointed is that off base.

[Lamak]

I didn't realize T-Will had 6 TOs until I checked the stats a minute ago. I dunno what to really say. A part of me starting to accept that he is turnover prone and his other stats should overshadow that, but those TOs are causing us easy baskets. Either him or Lopez has to cut down on turnovers for us to have a good season.

And as far as Favors, he does pick up a lot of bad fouls. I think he should atleast get thrown the ball in the post or can he not even score there? I think he can average 10//8 as soon as he cuts down on these fouls. He got like 12/7 today and that's even with fouling out in a high scoring game. 10/8 in a regular scoring game with less fouls would make sense. I do wish we had John Wall at times though, he already can be seen as a threat. Favors has a long way to go.

[pass first]

Farmar put on a nice show in the 2nd half, was fun to watch.

[demens]

Btw, i just checked Morrows stats. And he is actually shooting 44% from 3 in the 7 games. Thats pretty damn good. It feels like he missing a ton, but apparently he isnt. I was looking at him and thinking hey, his game sucks when he is not hitting 3s, when he starts to, and he is too good of a shooter not to start hitting them, his game will look much better.

Well, it turns out he IS hitting his 3s and his game still looks like utter ****! **** Bobby Simmons Jr.

Yeah, he is slumping overall, 38%FG instead of his usual 45%, so maybe if he gets that back to normal he will look better, but still he is doing what he was brought here to do, knock down 3s. And he still sucks.

[demens]

Farmar put on a nice show in the 2nd half, was fun to watch.

Its nice to have a pg that can hit a 3. But i wouldnt expect too much of that from Farmar.

Also, Devin went to the bench after he let either Douglas or Felton blow by him on defense, i think on a back door. And never came back Go Avery.

To be fair, i think Devin has played solid defense all pre-season. He just isnt the prefect defender we thought he once was.

[Rockazoids]

Knicks fan here,
Famar & Toney Douglas did put on a good show.
Nice game.

[60cent]

Wait a minute... Arent TWill supposed to be a very good defender coming out of college and an athletic thunderous dunker? What the hell happened to those skills? I dont think we're using TWill's capabilities, he is not a scorer but that seems to be where he is heading. He has also the talent to score but i'd like him to play more like Gerald Wallace and not catch-dribble-dribble and shoot, and when he passes its mostly a TO.

Lopez is improving and a very good player but just like what i've been saying all year, he needs to learn the basic passing, footwork, boxing out and positioning of this game. He seems to be lacking some BBIQ but he can definitely improve with the help of our experienced coaches. Very simple, on that last play, Douglas is much more shorter than him so all he had to do was throw a lob pass and not the bounce pass. Heck, he can even jump and pass if he wanted to.

Im not worried about Morrow. I know he sucks on defense but at least he can rebound and pass. He is no CLee on D but its not like CLee is a big time defender. CLee is decent because you know that he hustles on D and he can also shoot.

Man... Im very impressed with Favors today and he looks really strong. I should give him a chance and stop being too hard on him. He needs to learn how to break a screen play when his PG's doesnt think and gets impatient by movng early. He tends to stay with the play and gets called with those silly fouls. He needs to feel the game and focus more on defense, because Brook is gonna need a lot of those.

Im excited with our new players and i would like give Petro some credit. He was awesome today, he was there on offense and defense.

Overall, the good thing about this is that the flaws are not hard to target. We all know their weaknesses and i hope Avery can see it as well because i beieve in him and there's no question that he wiill try to do his best to teach this guys what to do.

I'll post more later on... Im sleepy right now. Goodnight!

[demens]

Wait a minute... Arent TWill supposed to be a very good defender coming out of college and an athletic thunderous dunker? What the hell happened to those skills? I dont think we're using TWill's capabilities, he is not a scorer but that seems to be where he is heading. He has also the talent to score but i'd like him to play more like Gerald Wallace and not catch-dribble-dribble and shoot, and when he passes its mostly a TO.

He cant play like Gerald Wallace because he is nothing like Gerald Wallace. You can find plenty of athletic bad shooters in the NBA that play nothing like Wallace. The catch-dribble-dribble-dribble is just his game, it was his game in college, it was his game last year when people were drooling over his "potential" at the end and it still is exactly the same. There is no changing it. The part about his defense is what upsets me though, he was NEVER a good defender since coming to the NBA, in fact he is barely even average yet people are sooo reluctant to call him on it. I blame the stereotypes, a quick footed, very athletic guy cant be a **** defender right?

Lopez is improving and a very good player but just like what i've been saying all year, he needs to learn the basic passing, footwork, boxing out and positioning of this game. He seems to be lacking some BBIQ but he can definitely improve with the help of our experienced coaches. Very simple, on that last play, Douglas is much more shorter than him so all he had to do was throw a lob pass and not the bounce pass. Heck, he can even jump and pass if he wanted to.

Those that are blind to Lopezs lack of strength, you ever notice how LOW he gets when he is posting? This is to get leverage because he lacks the strength to push someone back without doing it, and this isnt something new since mono, he did all of last year. What that does is put this big big 7ft guy on the level of most quick guard that can easily strip him. Most of his passes is that same looking telegraphed bounce pass. He rarely stands up straight and passes over people. A big part why he has trouble with double teams. He is so LOW he cant see open teammates and he is SOOOO LOW that the guards that attack him have to bend down for the ball. STAND THE **** UP!

Im not worried about Morrow. I know he sucks on defense but at least he can rebound and pass. He is no CLee on D but its not like CLee is a big time defender. CLee is decent because you know that he hustles on D and he can also shoot.

He is, i guess it was just hard to be effective with 1 out of the 5 guys on the court playing defense.

[mikhailjordan]

Terrence rarely makes straight-line attacks to the basket when he has the ball in his hands and despite having a respectable first step his second and third steps are average (which is why he never puts a lot of distance between himself and his man after initially getting by them)... It's really as simple as that.

If the Nets could find a way to run more everyone's efficiency would go up...

[demens]

Why doesnt he look for contact when he is inside rather then throwing up those awful floaters. He would be much more efficient if he did that.

I would prefer to just trade him though.

Just out of curiosity, is the general view on him beginning to turn a little bit. During the summer some went as far as mini Lebron and Kidd comparison. There is still talk of superstar potential but now i notice way more people are pointing out his flaws. Attention to detail, even if its just preseason and he can still improve all those things i def. think people are opening their eyes to what his game really is way more then before.

[mikhailjordan]

His potential hasn't changed one way or another... I never liked the mini-Lebron comparisons either though, Lebron seeks out contact, Terrence doesn't. Which isn't to say he's afraid of it but he's very much a guard when with his physical attributes the coaching staff should converting him into a full-time bull of a forward.

[demens]

That midget cant be a forward. I dont know what kind of half a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) measured him at the combined but he is not 6'6.