Jeff Green

[franktony]

Green is great player. He is just in the wrong team playing out of position.

Give him the chance to play SF most of the time and he is going to be a top5 SF in this league easily.

I'd love to have him playing for the spurs, even with RJ playing so well.

[slick_watts]

hes a unrestricted free agent though so it doesnt matter if they will match or not cuz they didnt tender his contract for next year so hes really up for grabs.

That doesn't mean he is unrestricted. He's still restricted. The Thunder will likely submit a qualifying offer to Green, to retain RFA.

[treiz]

id still rather have jeff green in a bad contract and take my chances than settle for tyler hansbrough haha... and as far as lamarcus aldridge is concerned i dont know if you guys have seen him play lately but he is definitely an all star caliber PF who is young and is improving rapidly and has tasted the playoffs. if we could combine jeff green, lamarcus, and melo i think that sets us up to match up well with the other elite eastern conference teams if other pieces can fall into place

Yeah exactly. So what if he gets slightly overpaid? Hes still a better player than any of the other Nets small forwards. Its not like hes going to get a max contract. What needs to be realized is that until this team shows some signs of life nobody is going to want to sign here long term unless they were drafted or acquired via trade with a few years left on their contract. It doesnt make sense to keep passing on high quality players because they might get overpaid and hope to sign the best of the best. The best players will not sign a long term contract with a bad team, they dont care about money they care about winning. Bring in guys that can ball and show the league youre a team to be feared.

So by your standards, what Isiah did with the Knicks the last decade were all great moves? Your solution to being a crappy team is to overpay on average to above average players? You do realize we just did that this season with Trout, and look where that lead us....

BTW, the bolded part is EXACTLY what we are trying to do, so what's so bad about it? And like I said before in a previous post that was clearly ignored by people with views like yours. Being a horrible team is not as detrimental as it seems to be, all you get is a high draft pick, there are pretty much no negatives in being a bad team in the NBA. So why not be patient?

Of course the best players care about the money? If they didn't, why would they demand max contracts? If they didn't care about money, they would take a pay cut, the only example where this may be a bit wrong is with Miami, but even then their big 3 commands a crap load of money.

[Revolutionistt]

So by your standards, what Isiah did with the Knicks the last decade were all great moves? Your solution to being a crappy team is to overpay on average to above average players? You do realize we just did that this season with Trout, and look where that lead us....

BTW, the bolded part is EXACTLY what we are trying to do, so what's so bad about it? And like I said before in a previous post that was clearly ignored by people with views like yours. Being a horrible team is not as detrimental as it seems to be, all you get is a high draft pick, there are pretty much no negatives in being a bad team in the NBA. So why not be patient?

Of course the best players care about the money? If they didn't, why would they demand max contracts? If they didn't care about money, they would take a pay cut, the only example where this may be a bit wrong is with Miami, but even then their big 3 commands a crap load of money.

What Isiah Thomas did is nothing like what Im suggesting. He signed players that have had some sort of trouble off the court, were me first players that just wanted the big bucks, or were severely injury prone. Jeff Green is none of those. And when did I ever say we should sign Travis Outlaw for 7 million a year? And when was he ever considered to be a really good player? Being a bad team is not detrimental? Tell that to Clippers fans. And like you said "all you get is a high draft pick". A high pick is nothing but a high risk. Look at the Celtics 4 years ago they were just as bad as the Nets are now, how did they make such a quick turnaround???? You all want to be patient but youre only delaying the inevitable...... Alright for real what are we talking about? None of us are GM's and what we write doesnt effect anything that happens in the NBA its all just opinions. I mean really were arguing about people being overpaid to play basketball. BEING PAID TO PLAY!!! Sure I love the game but really millions of dollars to dribble and shoot a basketball???? I wish my life were that easy....

[treiz]

So by your standards, what Isiah did with the Knicks the last decade were all great moves? Your solution to being a crappy team is to overpay on average to above average players? You do realize we just did that this season with Trout, and look where that lead us....

BTW, the bolded part is EXACTLY what we are trying to do, so what's so bad about it? And like I said before in a previous post that was clearly ignored by people with views like yours. Being a horrible team is not as detrimental as it seems to be, all you get is a high draft pick, there are pretty much no negatives in being a bad team in the NBA. So why not be patient?

Of course the best players care about the money? If they didn't, why would they demand max contracts? If they didn't care about money, they would take a pay cut, the only example where this may be a bit wrong is with Miami, but even then their big 3 commands a crap load of money.

What Isiah Thomas did is nothing like what Im suggesting. He signed players that have had some sort of trouble off the court, were me first players that just wanted the big bucks, or were severely injury prone. Jeff Green is none of those. And when did I ever say we should sign Travis Outlaw for 7 million a year? And when was he ever considered to be a really good player? Being a bad team is not detrimental? Tell that to Clippers fans. And like you said "all you get is a high draft pick". A high pick is nothing but a high risk. Look at the Celtics 4 years ago they were just as bad as the Nets are now, how did they make such a quick turnaround???? You all want to be patient but youre only delaying the inevitable...... Alright for real what are we talking about? None of us are GM's and what we write doesnt effect anything that happens in the NBA its all just opinions. I mean really were arguing about people being overpaid to play basketball. BEING PAID TO PLAY!!! Sure I love the game but really millions of dollars to dribble and shoot a basketball???? I wish my life were that easy....

The gist of what Isiah Thomas did in NY was to overpay for players who were good but wasn't worth the money that they commanded, forget about all the off court issues and injuries because these are part of the game, at the end of the day, he overpaid for players who CLEARLY was not worth the amount that they paid for, it doesn't matter if Jeff Green is a great locker room guy or if he's never been injured, overpaying is OVERPAYING at the end of the day, and for some reason that's exactly what you want to do, overpay for a good player.

I never said anything about you wanting to sign Trout, all I said was that we already have proof of somebody getting overpaid backfiring right in front of us. Like I said, overpaying is OVERPAYING, all that other crap doesn't matter.

Glad you brought up the Celtics, fair enough you could say that they're doing exactly what we should do in pursuing Melo, but KG and Ray Allen DOES NOT equal Melo. So let's face it, bad example.

The Clippers, I do agree upon, but at the end of the day, look at their franchise, they had one horrible draft choice and that was Olowakandi. Afterwards, all of their draft picks have been pretty good ones, and although they are playing crap this year, look at the pieces the main pieces that they have, Griffin and Gordon, one franchise player and another sold number 2 guy to build a team around, that's what I want for the Nets. At the end of the day yes you only get a high pick, but it's not as high risk as you think it is, the main reason being because of the rookie scale, John Wall is getting paid around $5 million annually, if this was the NFL, fair enough, but it isn't and these guys tend to have team options at the end of their contracts, so drafting high picks is literally a low/medium risk but very high rewards.

Also, like I said it's not detrimental, you haven't proved anything to say that it is. The Clippers are IMO a bad example, because they're just a horribly run franchise at the end of the day, it's only been the last 4-5 years that the management have done a pretty solid job all around (except for the signing of Baron Davis). The only negative I see in having a high pick is literally the time it takes to get that pick, but even then, if the time is managed correctly such as developing rookies, scouting ahead etc. Then it's not that bad of a negative.

OK, none of us are GMs, but you do know that this is a forum website? Made for people with opinions to discuss those opinions. I'd love to be paid to play basketball, so if you were a GM, would you overpay for Uzoh? Would you overpay for me? Would you overpay for VC4P? It's a moot point because that's what professional sports is, being paid to play the game. The job of the GM is to figure out a fair value that would benefit both sides.

[jerseyjac]

I've watched every game Jeff Green has played since his rookie year and I think he'd be great on the Nets, especially under a coach like Avery Johnson who will re-instill defensive fundamentals into him. He's a natural SF, he has quick feet and can guard perimeter players very well. He also has a post up game, which he does not get to employ much in OKC since he's usually guarded by opposing PF's.

I don't think he'll get more than 5/50 on the open market. OKC probably won't match anything over 5/40.

I like Jeff Green more and more every year...as far as contract wise, thats was about what I was thinking...but I would NOT be surprised if once again some team overpays another FA...