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Re: Gamethread: Suns @ Nets 2/28/11 7 PM EST 

Post#81 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Mar 1, 2011 5:40 am

Nets44 wrote:waited outside for my Deron shirt (not like there was anywhere close to 10,000 people waiting).

Got my Kenyon Martin/Petey Pablo on with that joint in the 4th and overtime. :lol:
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Re: Gamethread: Suns @ Nets 2/28/11 7 PM EST 

Post#82 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Mar 1, 2011 5:49 am

BTW, honestly don't think I would trade Morrow straight up for Mayo.
I know I've said it before that I wouldn't, but I've flopped and floundered both ways and I don't think I would.
Mayo is more athletic and well rounded, but Morrow is just on fire at all times and is a constant threat, whether guarded or open and he's money on the fast break from distance, it's like a layup for the dude. His defense is mad underrated and I say that as someone who thought he was half a sieve earlier in the season. It's not great but it's easily average, which is well above average in the modern NBA. He's obviously limited overall, but man is he water.

Deron and Morrow are the only true keepers in my eyes, maybe Hump at the right price.
Everyone else can screw and I really hope Brook is traded for a big upgrade, whether Dwight or another blockbuster.
That's the thing though, I think a lot of us come down a little hard on Brook whether he deserves it or not, but if he brings the right piece back he needs to go.

I have a generally wide and sweeping statement that I want to make about Brook, but I feel it deserves it's own thread and therefore will save it for that.

I got a wild idea for the offseason though. Some are going to lambaste me, some are going to praise the move and completely advocate it, others are going to say it's unrealistic.
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Re: Gamethread: Suns @ Nets 2/28/11 7 PM EST 

Post#83 » by Jersey Generals » Tue Mar 1, 2011 6:06 am

Quick, Vince, post it before Sam Presti ruins your plan just as he did mine in one swift, and gloriously ingenious move.
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Post#84 » by 624 » Tue Mar 1, 2011 7:01 am

Anthony Morrow is amazing, that's all.
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Re: Gamethread: Suns @ Nets 2/28/11 7 PM EST 

Post#85 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Mar 1, 2011 7:02 am

Jersey Generals wrote:Quick, Vince, post it before Sam Presti ruins your plan just as he did mine in one swift, and gloriously ingenious move.

:lol:

Here we go BTW! viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1096887
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Re: Gamethread: Suns @ Nets 2/28/11 7 PM EST 

Post#86 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Mar 1, 2011 7:03 am

624 wrote:Anthony Morrow is amazing, that's all.

I concur.

He could honestly be an uber efficient 18ppg 4th option with D Will and the right 2nd option.
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Re: Gamethread: Suns @ Nets 2/28/11 7 PM EST 

Post#87 » by 624 » Tue Mar 1, 2011 7:20 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:
624 wrote:Anthony Morrow is amazing, that's all.

I concur.

He could honestly be an uber efficient 18ppg 4th option with D Will and the right 2nd option.


Agreed, I want Morrow on this team long term...D-Will finding him on the break = sex
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Re: Gamethread: Suns @ Nets 2/28/11 7 PM EST 

Post#88 » by SpeedyG » Tue Mar 1, 2011 12:31 pm

Deron got hurt yesterday (aggravated the wrist), and had to be pulled out of the game because of it. They put him back in because our offense went to the $hitter without him out there. I'm not going to put too much stock on Deron's "attitude". From what Utah fans told us, he's always been like that. You know what I did like? The fact that, even though he's been hurt, on a losing team, he's still playing. And the fact that, after he was pulled out and came back in, the first thing he does on defense is give up a HARD foul after a blown assignment by one of our bigs.

It's been awhile since one of our guys, aside from Kris, has given one of those (T-Will maybe?)

I don't get the hate on Brook. After this game? Really? Yeah, he missed the FT. And MAYBE he missed his assignment on defense on the last play (can't tell if it was him or Hump who failed to switch out to Frye). He looked like he didn't make an impact? Yeah, because the offense largely ignored him for most of the first half (part of that was due to Morrow being hot). I'd like to know how many legit touches Brook got in the first half. My guess was not a lot.

Defensively, he's not an anchor. But he's good enough. Nash had that one series where he picked apart that pnr defense with three straight dishes to Gortat, but after that? Brook played some damn good defense on Nash, especially late in the 4th and overtime. Those were plays were Nash would typically hit the dagger, and Brook was very key on stifling all of them.

That being said, if the right deal comes along (looking at you Dwight), I'd gladly ship out Brook. But him playing like this, and aggressively (FINALLY getting 10 boards again) is a good thing. Either he plays well enough to convince that Deron has a #2 here, or he plays well enough that he becomes a major trade chip.

Morrow = Buckets. This guy is going to benefit so much from the presence of Deron. And I agree, I don't know that I trade him for OJ. OJ is more well rounded, but I don't know that the money he'd be commanding would make it worth while when Anthony is only making $4M per. Unfortunately, I'm afraid that Morrow will be the sacrificial lamb used to rid us of Outlaw.

Back to Deron, it's clear he doesn't have confidence in his shot right now. Once he's healthy, this team should be even much better. We just played toe-to-toe against three teams that have won 3 or more games in a row. Both Houston and Phoenix would be playoff teams if they were in the East.

I know, no morale victory...but I'll take it compared to what we've seen in the past. In three games, our team has dished out 24, 27, and 32 assists. Given that we've barely averaged 20 assists per game, and that these guys hasn't had many, if any practice time together yet (except for shootarounds), that is a good improvement.
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Re: Gamethread: Suns @ Nets 2/28/11 7 PM EST 

Post#89 » by countrybama24 » Tue Mar 1, 2011 1:26 pm

Jazz fan here. Wanted to see Dwill in the home debut. 18 dimes was solid and it's good to hear he toughed out re aggravating his wrist for the home debut.

I will say his wrist is clearly impacting his efficiency. He usually is close to 50%, although when his usage goes way up (like when he was carrying the Jazz) it dips a little bit. Him and morrow are gonna be sick, he's never had a shooter than good besides kyle korver (who couldn't stay on the court because of his defense).

Ideally, I think he is the perfect second option (or option 1b) as it's hard for a PG to be a go to scorer in the clutch (even CP isn't, maybe just rose and pseudo-PGs like Tyreke). He'll make clutch shots no doubt, and if you had a team that was nasty at defense (dwight) he would be fine as the perimeter option #1.

It should be exciting moving forward. He always played with a chip on his shoulder before the trade, and I'm sure he feels the need to prove the Jazz made a mistake. I don't think he's as disloyal as many have made him out to be, he just wants to win.

Personally, I'm still rooting for him. Although not until next year with that pick, lol. Good luck putting the right pieces around him next year.

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