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Re: Would you be 100% thrilled with a Dwight trade? 

Post#121 » by AntwanBoldin » Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:15 am

I don't believe the nets would pass on pretty much any trade that Orlando agrees to, and they'd probably be foolish if they did pass.

This isn't so much confidence in getting him in FA, I'm a nets fan I know better. This is pessimism in being left at the alter after giving up a ton of assets.

Yes he'd be where we think he wants, yes Deron will be all over him, and yes he can get a taste of great PG play.(he'll also get a taste of dead, sparse crowds) I don't care how adamant Fegan is, hes still working for Dwight and he could change his mind

But The situation here only gets better without the trade and dwights availability won't change one bit. This won't be melo signing an extension the next day. The full court press would still have to be on. I Do feel good about that though because I think they've all gone over all the ind and outs of this and everyone has signed off.
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Re: Would you be 100% thrilled with a Dwight trade? 

Post#122 » by AntwanBoldin » Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:17 am

Part of me thinks the magic and nets have had a deal in place for weeks and agreed to execute it at the last minute. But at that point the season its so close to being over it's like "hmmm"
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Re: Would you be 100% thrilled with a Dwight trade? 

Post#123 » by DarkXaero » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:20 pm

People in the Nets organization seem absolutely certain that Dwight will be Net. Which makes me think that its possible that Dwight and Nets already have an agreement. That he comes here via trade or free agency.
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Re: Would you be 100% thrilled with a Dwight trade? 

Post#124 » by Born_Ready » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:36 pm

Does anyone think the deal is being held up until Brook makes his return, rather it be Orlando or another team wanting to be sure he can go before signing of on a trade? I hope there is already a deal implemented and just waiting on finalization to move forward.
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Re: Would you be 100% thrilled with a Dwight trade? 

Post#125 » by Archerbro » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:18 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:I agree with Ireland.

Would rather he comes here by FA and we keep Brook, Brooks and add a small forward with some of our assets and keep some smaller assets and expiring contracts for future flexibility.

That said, of course I would be elated if we got him at all.


If I'm Billy at this point though, my one big condition is I'm not taking any bad salary back at all.

No Hedo. No Duhon. No Q Rick. No J Rich.

And they're taking Petro as part of the salary filler.


If I am taking Hedo, I want Ryan Anderson coming back, or I want to keep picks.


Also, I'm not giving up Brooks.

Basically they get Brook Lopez, a plethora of picks, Petro and expirings for Dwight.


It might seem unrealistic, but Orlando ownership really backed themselves into a corner here.

Otis was ready to land them a huge package and they panicked and pulled out.

I know we hear all this complete bull **** that Dwight will go here and there, but it's Carmelo or Lebron James all over again.

He gets every single last thing he wants if he gets Brooklyn outside the warm weather.

He wants to come here. He's using other teams to get leverage and to divert attention away from the selfish reality of his demands, which quite honestly I'm fine with even if I wasn't a Nets fan.
The guy is a top 5 player in the world and has paid his dues, he's about to be an unrestricted free agent, he has every right in the world to walk and unlike a Lebron or Bosh he went right to ownership and told them he is as good as gone, this is where I'm going, get yourselves a good package for me and get yourselves a good 2012 pick through sucking.

He has done nothing wrong.

In fact, the only other place I could see him thinking about is Boston if they trade Rondo for a stud wing on smaller salary and he and Deron can go there and get full max starting salary together and even that is a Plastic Man stretch.


Dallas is not an option, the pay cuts they would have to take would be absurd and as great as Dirk has been he's fading fast and the rest of the roster would be barren.


:roll: :roll:

I don't think it's certain he goes to Dallas. But dirk fading fast? seems like you were jumping the gun too early

He's been back to his usual self over the last 10 games. He was out of shape and dealing with a knee problem earlier this year.
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Re: Would you be 100% thrilled with a Dwight trade? 

Post#126 » by Archerbro » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:22 pm

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Ronito wrote:Right. That's why Deron has publicly said he wants to stay in Brooklyn and build something special there. If you don't want to believe him, listen to the NBA insiders that have reported the same thing. Also, it's clear that we're Dwight's #1 option. He's asked for a trade here and we haave Deron, the #1 market, a billion dollar arena, influential owners, and better role players to surround the two with. Again, if you don't believe me, listen to the NBA insiders who have reported the same thing.

So despite the two wanting to play together in Brooklyn over any other scenario, you think they'll go to Dallas because they won the most recent championship and have Dirk, who will be 34 next year and has admitted to being in poor conditioning because it's quite obvious he's content with his career now. The same German who is averaging 17.5 points with 5.4 rebounds (lmfao) and can't bend his knees.



Man you and facts seem to be growing further and further apart. All of your claims about Dirk are wrong. He never said that about his conditioning, in fact he was slightly offended when others said so. Go check the tape from the playoffs and see for yourself what the guy looks like when he is determined. Lol at thinking that a veteran champions regular season numbers in lockout ball will convince other NBA stars that he is done.

The rest of your argument is tired, cherry picked speculation masquerading as fact. You ignore that both players have mentioned Dallas as an option, while using that same argument as the predominate reason that they will definitely go to Jersey. Hey, we're on their list so they want to come here, but just because another team is on the same list is no reason to think that it is anything but a pipe dream.

You seem to think that New Jersey's possession of overpaid role players outweighs Dallas' possession of a ready made perfect fitting superstar. Thinking that Proky is influential is comical in comparison to the owner that Dwight has talked about wishing his owner was more like.

No one is coming to Jersey. They are going to Brooklyn.

So after Dirk finally wins a ring, he's no longer motivated? I'm sure Dwight and Deron will bank on him becoming rejuvenated in his mid 30s (and right as he turns 40).

"I'm having trouble bending my knees," said Nowitzki


Dirk is averaging five rebounds a game. Stop looking at his reputation and looking the other way. He's no longer the same player with the same drive.

Dwight has listed Dallas an option, where it ranks we don't know - but we do know it's below Brooklyn. Deron denies having a list, but he's said Brooklyn is far and away his #1 choice. He loves living here, and wants to turn the NEW franchise into something special. These are the facts...where are yours?

lmfao @ saying I cherry pick.


Again, You're looking at the numbers instead of watching him play (over the last 10 games). He's been back to normal.

Should I just troll and state Lopez is fading? or be truthful and state alot of his woes had to do with injuries-especially rebounding.
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Re: Would you be 100% thrilled with a Dwight trade? 

Post#127 » by Archerbro » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:23 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:
HotrodBeaubois wrote:Wright is healthy this year. Pretty much every game he has played he's been great. The last 4 games his minutes have doubled.

His Field Goal % is 4th in the league( 50 or more attempts to qualify) Behind
Chandler-.697
Collison-.690
Jordan-.667
Wright-.648

Brandan Wright

25.3 Pts Per 48 Min
.648 FG%

Brooks

24.2 Pts Per 48 Min
.452 FG%

You're embarrassing yourself. Stop it.

Nowitzki

26.48 pts Per 48 Min

Nowitzki better watch out. Brandan Wright is catching up to him.

That's one of the dumbest metrics to use. No one plays 48 minutes. Even using

Also, if Wright did, his efficiency would go way down. Why? Cuz he's not a starter.

Don't bring those crap statistics on here as if you've proved something.

There's a reason why Wright comes off the bench and is 9th/10th man, while Brooks is a starter and the 2nd option on the team.


it's because the nets have 9 wins. He's not a 2nd option on a contending team (at least not yet)
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Re: Would you be 100% thrilled with a Dwight trade? 

Post#128 » by NyCeEvO » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:37 pm

Archerbro wrote: :roll: :roll:

I don't think it's certain he goes to Dallas. But dirk fading fast? seems like you were jumping the gun too early

He's been back to his usual self over the last 10 games. He was out of shape and dealing with a knee problem earlier this year.

He made that post almost a month ago and you're quoting it as if he said that yesterday. In fact, that post was made before the last 10 games that are referring to.

Personally, I never went as far as to say that Dirk is done, just that he needed to get whatever was wrong with him fixed, because he wasn't playing like he was before.
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Re: Would you be 100% thrilled with a Dwight trade? 

Post#129 » by NyCeEvO » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:40 pm

Archerbro wrote:Again, You're looking at the numbers instead of watching him play (over the last 10 games). He's been back to normal.

Should I just troll and state Lopez is fading? or be truthful and state alot of his woes had to do with injuries-especially rebounding.

Again, you cherrypicked a comment from January 29th and are acting as if he said it yesterday. How could he look at the last 10 games, when on January 29, they didn't even get to those games yet.
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Re: Would you be 100% thrilled with a Dwight trade? 

Post#130 » by NyCeEvO » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:42 pm

Archerbro wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:
HotrodBeaubois wrote:Wright is healthy this year. Pretty much every game he has played he's been great. The last 4 games his minutes have doubled.

His Field Goal % is 4th in the league( 50 or more attempts to qualify) Behind
Chandler-.697
Collison-.690
Jordan-.667
Wright-.648

Brandan Wright

25.3 Pts Per 48 Min
.648 FG%

Brooks

24.2 Pts Per 48 Min
.452 FG%

You're embarrassing yourself. Stop it.

Nowitzki

26.48 pts Per 48 Min

Nowitzki better watch out. Brandan Wright is catching up to him.

That's one of the dumbest metrics to use. No one plays 48 minutes. Even using

Also, if Wright did, his efficiency would go way down. Why? Cuz he's not a starter.

Don't bring those crap statistics on here as if you've proved something.

There's a reason why Wright comes off the bench and is 9th/10th man, while Brooks is a starter and the 2nd option on the team.


it's because the nets have 9 wins. He's not a 2nd option on a contending team (at least not yet)

And neither is Brandan Wright? What's your point lol?

We were specifically talking about Wright vs. Brooks. Stop cherrypicking comments to pad your post numbers.

Your last 3 posts were all out of context.
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Re: Would you be 100% thrilled with a Dwight trade? 

Post#131 » by Archerbro » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:00 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:
Archerbro wrote:Again, You're looking at the numbers instead of watching him play (over the last 10 games). He's been back to normal.

Should I just troll and state Lopez is fading? or be truthful and state alot of his woes had to do with injuries-especially rebounding.

Again, you cherrypicked a comment from January 29th and are acting as if he said it yesterday. How could he look at the last 10 games, when on January 29, they didn't even get to those games yet.


yea i ended up noticing that later on, just seems people like to use their homer goggles when evaluating players, dirk wasn't an exception.
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Re: Would you be 100% thrilled with a Dwight trade? 

Post#132 » by Archerbro » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:02 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:
Archerbro wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:You're embarrassing yourself. Stop it.

Nowitzki

26.48 pts Per 48 Min

Nowitzki better watch out. Brandan Wright is catching up to him.

That's one of the dumbest metrics to use. No one plays 48 minutes. Even using

Also, if Wright did, his efficiency would go way down. Why? Cuz he's not a starter.

Don't bring those crap statistics on here as if you've proved something.

There's a reason why Wright comes off the bench and is 9th/10th man, while Brooks is a starter and the 2nd option on the team.


it's because the nets have 9 wins. He's not a 2nd option on a contending team (at least not yet)

And neither is Brandan Wright? What's your point lol?

We were specifically talking about Wright vs. Brooks. Stop cherrypicking comments to pad your post numbers.

Your last 3 posts were all out of context.


your argument for Brooks over Wright because he's a #2 option isn't good. He's clearly better, but that's like arguing X player on -crappy mediocre team is better because he's a #1 or 2 option.
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Re: Would you be 100% thrilled with a Dwight trade? 

Post#133 » by NyCeEvO » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:33 pm

Archerbro wrote:your argument for Brooks over Wright because he's a #2 option isn't good. He's clearly better, but that's like arguing X player on -crappy mediocre team is better because he's a #1 or 2 option.

I know Brooks is clearly better. HotRodBeaubois was trying to provide evidence to the contrary. That's why I made that statement.

And plus, how often is the 8th-10th guy on a championship-caliber team better than #2 option on even the crappiest team? Yes, it is relative but in almost all-situations the #2 option is still going to be better.
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Re: Would you be 100% thrilled with a Dwight trade? 

Post#134 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:22 am

Archerbro wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:
Archerbro wrote:Again, You're looking at the numbers instead of watching him play (over the last 10 games). He's been back to normal.

Should I just troll and state Lopez is fading? or be truthful and state alot of his woes had to do with injuries-especially rebounding.

Again, you cherrypicked a comment from January 29th and are acting as if he said it yesterday. How could he look at the last 10 games, when on January 29, they didn't even get to those games yet.


yea i ended up noticing that later on, just seems people like to use their homer goggles when evaluating players, dirk wasn't an exception.

Yeah nice backhanded apology. GTFO our board if you're just here to troll, bait and insult.
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