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If we had to choose between including MarShon Brooks or our 1st round pick in a deal for Dwight, how high would the pick have to be before you would rather trade Brooks than the draft pick?
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Brooks doesn't have this kind of value as to compare him to a top 10 lotto pick IMHO.
He's a decent player who's very close to his ceiling.
Likely a slightly above average starter.
Call me crazy, I'd choose the Rockets pick over him.
If we keep our pick in a Dwight deal it's not because Orlando got to choose between MarShon and the pick, it's cause they've lost almost all their leverage and we told them no pick in the deal, period.
He's a decent player who's very close to his ceiling.
Likely a slightly above average starter.
Call me crazy, I'd choose the Rockets pick over him.
If we keep our pick in a Dwight deal it's not because Orlando got to choose between MarShon and the pick, it's cause they've lost almost all their leverage and we told them no pick in the deal, period.

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vincecarter4pres wrote:Brooks doesn't have this kind of value as to compare him to a top 10 lotto pick IMHO.
I agree, I just still included the options for completion's sake.
I voted 7-10 and up. Unbiased I'd probably vote 14 and up.
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I voted 7-10 and up because any lower and its even more of a gamble and guess game than it already is.
So 7-10
EDIT: Just to add what I mean a bit further, we know we have a good scorer in Brooks but were not certain the pick will turn into a starting quality or even 2nd unit guy. Thats why I put 7-10
So 7-10
EDIT: Just to add what I mean a bit further, we know we have a good scorer in Brooks but were not certain the pick will turn into a starting quality or even 2nd unit guy. Thats why I put 7-10

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Both very valid. The pick is still a gamble, so why dump Brooks for a pick in the say 14 to 20 range when you know what you have with MarShon and that being a good player.
I would argue this draft is deeper then most though and a pick up to about 20 is like a late lotto pick in other drafts. Still relatively the same risk, but much higher reward.
I would argue this draft is deeper then most though and a pick up to about 20 is like a late lotto pick in other drafts. Still relatively the same risk, but much higher reward.

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vincecarter4pres wrote:Both very valid. The pick is still a gamble, so why dump Brooks for a pick in the say 14 to 20 range when you know what you have with MarShon and that being a good player.
I would argue this draft is deeper then most though and a pick up to about 20 is like a late lotto pick in other drafts. Still relatively the same risk, but much higher reward.
No I agree to an extent but its a pure risk reward situation. On one hand you know what youve got in Brooks, in the other you could pick up a very good player more suited to Howard/Williams type team but alternatively he could turn out to be completely average and have people crying about "if" we'd have kept Brooks.
If I was a GM I'd stick to what ive got in Brooks because its the safe option, were already gambling like mad trying to aquire Howard, why push it even further and come up with nothing in the draft and lets be honest its very easy to pick a bust in any draft because you just don't know how they will do in the NBA

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Brooks is a good SG, a talented scorer, but I think that's all he brings. He's also looked a lot better than what he is because he's playing on such a terrible team and not many teams have seen his entire game yet. He is kinda old, especially for a rookie as well, and he doesn't seems to be the explosive player his draft numbers had previously shown. With that said, I might go with keeping the pick(s). We didn't tank this season to let that **** go so easily.
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I'd rather keep MarShon and deal the Houston pick. I'd even keep Marshon instead of our pick if it falls below the 10th spot.
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Isn't this draft considered a lot weaker than was originally thought? Is that because good prospects have decided to stay in college another year?
Marshon I see as being a Jason Terry type player, if not better, if he works on his game the way he should. A guy that can provide a spark and score in bunches, or he can run point and handle the ball and set other people up if needed. I say possibly better because Marshon can put his length and deceptive quickness to good use and if he works at it, he can become a decent defender. He's already a pretty good rebounder.
I don't see any All-Star games in his future, unless he dramatically improves his all-around game, but I do see him being a very good player.
So I'd probably stick with Marshon over the draft pick, unless the pick was pretty high (like top 7ish). I think most here would settle for a lower pick than I would over Marshon.
Marshon I see as being a Jason Terry type player, if not better, if he works on his game the way he should. A guy that can provide a spark and score in bunches, or he can run point and handle the ball and set other people up if needed. I say possibly better because Marshon can put his length and deceptive quickness to good use and if he works at it, he can become a decent defender. He's already a pretty good rebounder.
I don't see any All-Star games in his future, unless he dramatically improves his all-around game, but I do see him being a very good player.
So I'd probably stick with Marshon over the draft pick, unless the pick was pretty high (like top 7ish). I think most here would settle for a lower pick than I would over Marshon.
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Call me crazy, I'd choose the Rockets pick over him.
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vincecarter4pres wrote:Brooks doesn't have this kind of value as to compare him to a top 10 lotto pick IMHO.
He's a decent player who's very close to his ceiling.
Likely a slightly above average starter.
Call me crazy, I'd choose the Rockets pick over him.
If we keep our pick in a Dwight deal it's not because Orlando got to choose between MarShon and the pick, it's cause they've lost almost all their leverage and we told them no pick in the deal, period.
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at 7-10 who would you get in the draft? if beal or lamb, I think they are clearly > brooks buy i went with 4-6 to be safe lol
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SpeedyG wrote:vincecarter4pres wrote:Brooks doesn't have this kind of value as to compare him to a top 10 lotto pick IMHO.
He's a decent player who's very close to his ceiling.
Likely a slightly above average starter.
Call me crazy, I'd choose the Rockets pick over him.
If we keep our pick in a Dwight deal it's not because Orlando got to choose between MarShon and the pick, it's cause they've lost almost all their leverage and we told them no pick in the deal, period.
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I'd go with the pick, even if it ended up being in the 14-16 range. I like brooks, but as someone mentioned, I think he is pretty close to his ceiling. Not to mention, scoring 2 guards who aren't freakishly athletic are one of the easier things to find.
I don't see brooks as an all-star in the future, and if thats the case, i cant see keeping him instead of the pick, in a decent draft. especially if the pick turns out to be top 10, where you could land a more valuable forward position player
I don't see brooks as an all-star in the future, and if thats the case, i cant see keeping him instead of the pick, in a decent draft. especially if the pick turns out to be top 10, where you could land a more valuable forward position player
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I think we're in more need of a low post threat/banger on the boards than a scoring 2 guard. The idea of landing a top lotto pick and getting Davis or Robinson would be better than keeping Marshon. The other obvious weakspot at SF would be nicely addressed by luckily getting Barnes and, if Green can be a consistant 10-14 ppg player for the rest of this year, then I would sign him going into next year.
Williams, Morrow, Green, Robinson/Davis, Howard
Williams, Morrow, Barnes, Hump, Howard
I think either of these potential opening day lineups for Brooklyn would be better than a potential one with Marshon Brooks if we're talking about a trade that includes Brooks and Lopez at the least.
Williams, Morrow, Green, Robinson/Davis, Howard
Williams, Morrow, Barnes, Hump, Howard
I think either of these potential opening day lineups for Brooklyn would be better than a potential one with Marshon Brooks if we're talking about a trade that includes Brooks and Lopez at the least.