Trade Idea: Lopez for J-Smoove?

[Ronito]

I don't see why anyone wants to trade for Smith right now anyway. Atlanta won't do it and we could be stuck with a guy that is still unhappy with his situation after we acquire him. It makes more sense waiting to sign/trade for Dwight then trading for Smith after, if possible.

[AntwanBoldin]

Dude, if we really wanted Smith, you could just S&T Brook for J-Smoove if 1) D-Will and D12 sign asap 2) Josh Smith says that he wants to come 3) Atlanta management wants Lopez as compensation.

4) Lopez wants to sign there
5) smith isn't traded somewhere else

[NyCeEvO]

4) Lopez wants to sign there
5) smith isn't traded somewhere else

Lopez is an RFA. He's going with whoever gives him the most money lol.

Smith probably isn't going anywhere. They need him for the playoffs and the report is overblown. No where in the article does he say that he demanded a trade.

He reiterated the fact that he's not happy with the situation he's in, but he's said that he's going to continue to be professional about it. He hasn't demanded a trade like everyone on the GB thinks he has.

The author just made it seem like he's extremely displeased. If you actually read the direct quotes from Smoove, he seems like he'll finish out the season at least.

[Ronito]

Lopez isn't saying no to a sign and trade or even a multi-year contract. He played in two games this year, is a 7 footer who doesn't get boards. No one is going to pay him.

[AntwanBoldin]

If he has in fact played his last game this season he's going to want to re-establish himself for a year before signing a 4-year deal.

Would you ask a girl to marry you just after you farted?

[NyCeEvO]

Lopez isn't saying no to a sign and trade or even a multi-year contract. He played in two games this year, is a 7 footer who doesn't get boards. No one is going to pay him.

People will pay him for being an offensive option, but I really doubt that he'll get a max contract unless he comes back and shows that he can rebound.

There could be one team that's desperate to add pieces that might give him a sizeable contract, but I doubt someone will max him out.

[Shameer1016]

Lopez isn't saying no to a sign and trade or even a multi-year contract. He played in two games this year, is a 7 footer who doesn't get boards. No one is going to pay him.

People will pay him for being an offensive option, but I really doubt that he'll get a max contract unless he comes back and shows that he can rebound.

There could be one team that's desperate to add pieces that might give him a sizeable contract, but I doubt someone will max him out.

He's still young and raw in my opinion. He's a good scorer, not even a question, but if a team with a good coach or assistant coach took Lopez under his wing, I would like to see what he could become. And am I the only one here that wants to see a Lopez and Howard front court?

[NyCeEvO]

And am I the only one here that wants to see a Lopez and Howard front court?

No, but I do think everyone is starting to prioritize and list the lineup they'd like to see the most.

No one is stating (and I don't think anyone believes) that Lopez-Howard isn't a good combo. However, I do think that many of us think that there are other possible combinations that may work better.

[Ronito]

Lopez isn't saying no to a sign and trade or even a multi-year contract. He played in two games this year, is a 7 footer who doesn't get boards. No one is going to pay him.

People will pay him for being an offensive option, but I really doubt that he'll get a max contract unless he comes back and shows that he can rebound.

There could be one team that's desperate to add pieces that might give him a sizeable contract, but I doubt someone will max him out.

He's still young and raw in my opinion. He's a good scorer, not even a question, but if a team with a good coach or assistant coach took Lopez under his wing, I would like to see what he could become. And am I the only one here that wants to see a Lopez and Howard front court?

I want to see it; I'm just saying I don't think there'll be a market for him, which is good for the Nets. Nothing against him.

[Shameer1016]

Eh, I can see team interesting in Lopez, but price is a different scenario. He's not exactly a bad C, of course he has flaw, but his Pro's are Con's for almost all the Centers in the league. He's going to be 24 on April 1st(Go Figure lol), still a young player, many might see potential in.

[netsfan412]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7l6vnus

think this can work between GS/NJ/ATL
warriors get brook that they want and joe johnson that they want. they unload monta and david lee's bad contract.
nets get expiring kwame brown who is injured (not sure if he can be traded since out for year), and smoove for not that much considering age and current production
ATL gets monta and a big in lee to pair with horford creating a solid lineup of teague/monta/marvin/lee/horford, which is a playoff team
nets should also get an additional pick or two and maybe cash considerations.

[NyCeEvO]

Eh, I can see team interesting in Lopez, but price is a different scenario. He's not exactly a bad C, of course he has flaw, but his Pro's are Con's for almost all the Centers in the league. He's going to be 24 on April 1st(Go Figure lol), still a young player, many might see potential in.

I think everyone sees potential in him. Heck, I'm quite certain that if Lopez maxed out his potential, he'd be a 20/10 guy. I just have no clue why he's preventing himself from becoming that player.

[NyCeEvO]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7l6vnus

think this can work between GS/NJ/ATL
warriors get brook that they want and joe johnson that they want. they unload monta and david lee's bad contract.
nets get expiring kwame brown who is injured (not sure if he can be traded since out for year), and smoove for not that much considering age and current production
ATL gets monta and a big in lee to pair with horford creating a solid lineup of teague/monta/marvin/lee/horford, which is a playoff team
nets should also get an additional pick or two and maybe cash considerations.

Pure talent wise, we'd actually be the losers in that deal lol!

[nykballa2k4]

Honestly, I feel like the Nets could afford to make an offer for JS. While it is true that it would take you guys out of the running for D12, it would also help make the team better.

Example: Lopez, Morrow, Shawne for Smith
followed by:
Humphries for Okafor

Okafor
JSmooth
Draft Pick
Brooks
Deron

being that the draft pick is going to be good, pick matters.

Side note: best deal for all involved is a sign and trade from Denver sending Wilson Chandler, Mozgov and whatever picks knicks sent for Josh
Nene
JS
Gallo
AA
Ty
scary team

[Shameer1016]

Eh, I can see team interesting in Lopez, but price is a different scenario. He's not exactly a bad C, of course he has flaw, but his Pro's are Con's for almost all the Centers in the league. He's going to be 24 on April 1st(Go Figure lol), still a young player, many might see potential in.

I think everyone sees potential in him. Heck, I'm quite certain that if Lopez maxed out his potential, he'd be a 20/10 guy. I just have no clue why he's preventing himself from becoming that player.

He's a 20 PPG scorer easily, and a good shot blocker. His rebounding is a bit frustrating, but his scoring is something that can't be replaced easily, especially on this team.

[NyCeEvO]

Honestly, I feel like the Nets could afford to make an offer for JS. While it is true that it would take you guys out of the running for D12, it would also help make the team better.

Example: Lopez, Morrow, Shawne for Smith
followed by:
Humphries for Okafor

Okafor
JSmooth
Draft Pick
Brooks
Deron

being that the draft pick is going to be good, pick matters.

Side note: best deal for all involved is a sign and trade from Denver sending Wilson Chandler, Mozgov and whatever picks knicks sent for Josh
Nene
JS
Gallo
AA
Ty
scary team

We've been going all in for D12 for a while now. We're not going to give up all assets to go after Josh Smith lol. Anything that takes the Nets out of the running for D12 is a deal we're not considering.

[netsfan412]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7l6vnus

think this can work between GS/NJ/ATL
warriors get brook that they want and joe johnson that they want. they unload monta and david lee's bad contract.
nets get expiring kwame brown who is injured (not sure if he can be traded since out for year), and smoove for not that much considering age and current production
ATL gets monta and a big in lee to pair with horford creating a solid lineup of teague/monta/marvin/lee/horford, which is a playoff team
nets should also get an additional pick or two and maybe cash considerations.

Pure talent wise, we'd actually be the losers in that deal lol!

pure talent wise we lose. long run its an easy win.
petro/brook/mehmet okur for josh smith? everyday. plus easy expiring in kwame who is gone after season.
leaves center spot open for dwight.
dwill/marshon/draft/smith/dwight
bench- ammo/shelden(i think we should resign)/gerald green(also should sign to vet min) other free agents and houston pick.
sounds fine to me

[NyCeEvO]

He's a 20 PPG scorer easily, and a good shot blocker. His rebounding is a bit frustrating, but his scoring is something that can't be replaced easily, especially on this team.

You're right that his offense can't easily be replaced. There's no doubt about that.

The question that I think most people are getting at with these other deals though is that while his offense is very good, his defense is amongst the worst in the league for a big man.

Almost all of the deals that people are actively pursuing have us trading the offense for defense, since they believe defense is the key to winning.

[Shameer1016]

He's a 20 PPG scorer easily, and a good shot blocker. His rebounding is a bit frustrating, but his scoring is something that can't be replaced easily, especially on this team.

You're right that his offense can't easily be replaced. There's no doubt about that.

The question that I think most people are getting at with these other deals though is that while his offense is very good, his defense is amongst the worst in the league for a big man.

Almost all of the deals that people are actively pursuing have us trading the offense for defense, since they believe defense is the key to winning.

His defense is pretty bad. And offense does win games, defense wins Championship.