GT#9: Brooklyn @ LA Lakers - 11/20 - 10:30pm on YES/NBA TV

[Keith Van Horn]

I didn't get to see the game last night since I worked from 7-9, much later than normal. By the time I got home I just wanted to sleep. However it seems like the consensus is that we played a contender team very well. This is fantastic news, also that Lopez and Dwill played well together. Still upset about JJ's shooting woes and Avery's rotations.

Do you guys think that if we hit a patch of 5+ games where we're losing and the players look unmotivated that there's any chance Avery may get the ax?

Think Larry Brown would leave SMU if the offer was right? A quick Google search tells me he's also Brooklyn born... but also 72 years old now.

[Born_Ready]

I was really unsure how to predict last night. I was under the assumption that the Lakers would be spotted 15+ points based on the intimidation factor. To start the game I was thinking I was spot on with my assumption. However, Avery called a timeout when it was 10-0, and the Nets came out swinging after that. I was thoroughly impressed all night long.

The score should have been 93-90, but they let the Black Mamba get a call, that most refs would probably let go to end games. Whatever.....it was piss poor officiating all night, but I'm not putting the lost solely on the zebras.

As the game went on, I thought too many players were settling for jump shots. This is where I would like to see Avery put Marshon on the floor (instead of Stackhouse). Brooks is one of the few players that will look to attack the basket as unorthodox as he looks driving to the hole; he's effective getting baskets.

I think Crash, Joe Johnson, Deron, and CJ all took long shots during that drought of not scoring. That's my only compliant. Just take better shots, high percentage shots closer to the basket and you win games like this.

I'm hopeful they left that lockeroom proud of their effort, because as a fan, I am very excited for things to come. Despite Avery's lapse of judgement in crucial spots.

The Lakers are a damn good team, not like they use to be, but still pretty damn good. Brooklyn went toe to toe with them for 4 quarters. They deserve a pat on the back and carry what little momentum they may have into Golden State and get the win.

[PetroNet]

im not really happy with just good efforts. this is a game we should have won. up 6 with 5 to play and the lakers really didnt have alot going. yet from that point all we see is long 3's in early offense and bail out shots late in the clock. not set offense, no looks for lopez, nothing.

then you have avery going back and forth between hack a dwight and regular defense.

then not fouling immediately after the missed FT to extend a 1 point game, and not fouling gasol when u had the chance.

as far as joe johnson, i think he is fitting in well, just not hitting open shots. i can imagine this will continue all season. he is too good of a shooter

[21shumpshumpst]

Knicks fan here who hates you all very much but hear me out.

As much as I will forever dislike you Nyets the game last night was just an example of how rigged the NBA is.

I counted multiple times where Lopez got hacked and no call. That one sequence where he got hacked not once but twice was just smfh.

The ending where Gasol traveled and no call lol. You guys got jobbed and while I still hate you I want some damn officiating that I can count on.

I dont want to feel I am watching a league where the outcome is predetermined.

I mean D'antoni's first game as coach and this happens just makes you shake your head.

Think about it this way. When you have a Knicks fan watching a basketball game of the Nyets and he feels that the Nyets are being blatantly jobbed and is not happy about it then you know something is wrong with the league.

[624]

I liked how after Dwight picked up his 5th foul we stopped going to Lopez and settled for jump shots.


I wish Deron continued to drive in the 2nd like he did in the first, but of course that's pretty tough to do when your coach sends your elite PG running around screens for spot-up shots like you're Ray Allen.

[SpeedyG]

You do Hack-a-Howard with 2min left. Not 5 minutes left in the quarter.

That was such a dumb move. We put ourselves in the penalty super early and it hurt us for the rest of the game.

They were already over the limit when they decided to do it...

It was dumb.

Figure there were about 11 combined possessions left in the game without any fouls.

So say the Lakers would have got 5 of those.

Then instead say the Lakers get 11 possessions because of how quick Hack a Howard happens on their end.

Give Dwight 50% foul shooting good for 1PPP.

Equates to 11 points.

If we brick on all 6 possessions that gives them a 5 point win.

Say we shoot 2 of 6 and get an trip to the line for 7 possessions with a touch of extra clock we gain?

Miss a frow, it's a tie game.

Make both we win by 1.

Miss both, we lose by one.

It's a horrible strategy that early with that small a lead.

Yeah I will say, if we're planning on hack a dwight, let's at least allow some time off the clock

[MGrand15]

Avery needs to find minutes for Marshon and Teletovic if we're going to shoot 3s so poorly. We have a lot of shooters but we also have guys that can't shoot at all. We're in the bottom 3rd of the league in 3pt shooting and that's unacceptable for the number of great looks we're getting AND unacceptable for an offensive team. We need to play Teletovic with Evans or start playing Marshon more. Floor spacing is really important and without shooters, it bogs down our offense.

I'd love to see Teletovic get some minutes with the starters (Deron,JJ,Crash,Tele,Lopez) Another shooter in that lineup would be torture for the defense considering Deron, JJ, and Lopez require the attention of more than one defender.

I don't have much faith in Avery to experiment though. He seems to REALLY like Blatche since he doesn't get punished for his mental mistakes.

[Ronito]

I'd like to see Teletovic get some burn, too, but the offense isn't the problem. There's also no way to play him over Evans and Hump. I expect Hump to be traded at the trade deadline.

[therealbig3]

At least this should answer the critics' questions of whether or not we can hang with the good teams. We lost that game through bad coaching and bad reffing, not through a lack of talent.

[therealbig3]

ok i just want to say i come in peace and asked this on the PC board so i thought id ask nets fans this.

went to the game and im trying to understand why so often the nets will let JJ initiate the offense and have deron run off screens as their offensive set, then let him make plays off of that. it seemed like every time they actually let him play pg and either iso morris, or play the pick n roll, he destroyed us. i dont think theres anything wrong with him really, he looked brilliant every time when he wasnt being used so.... oddly. for my money it was an awesome performance and hes still the 2nd best PG behind paul and maybe nash, but who knows how he will look when he gets back healthy on our team.

also dont understand how wallace fits in offensively. teams can just leave him open from outside like we did and it really hurts them. a lot of the time he just served as a spot up shooter, and wallace is not a spot up shooter. his defense is still pretty (Please Use More Appropriate Word) though. people didnt believe me when i said he was a top 3 defender in the league last year.

lopez is a beast. would be so awesome to see a dantoni-esque offense run around him and dwill.

you guys seem to have the personnel but maybe not the foundation. dunno thats what i gathered from it. best of luck braughs. i just had to ask this cuz i didnt know if nets fans like... hated the way the team looked to be run or were content with all things.

Avery Johnson, man. He really has no idea what he's doing out there.

We ran D-Will at SG and made him run around screens and basically play like Ray Allen last year, which we all disagreed with, but at least we understood why he would do that: we were a terrible team that needed someone to put up big points for us, and Deron was pretty much the only one who could do that. But there's no reason for that this year, but Avery Johnson is still adamant about doing that, and it totally kills Deron's rhythm and hurts his shooting numbers as well. Deron is at his best when he actually handles the ball and creates for others...like we've said over and over, you don't turn one of the best PGs in the game into an off-ball player that barely gets to create. And it's not like he can't see the drawbacks of playing Deron off-ball...like you said, we had him on-ball and playing in the PnR, or in the post against Morris or Duhon, and he was dominating. Then for some strange reason in the 2nd half, Avery starts playing him off-ball, he doesn't organize any sort of offensive sets (our play-calling down the stretch was horrible), and Deron forces up a lot of tough jumpers as a result.

Deron's not a product of a system, but it really is incredible how much better you can look playing for a good coach (Sloan) compared to playing for a bad coach (Avery).

[NyCeEvO]

@realbig3 The numbers show that the reason why we suck in the 3rd quarter and go from the league's best 2nd quarter team to the league's worst 3rd quarter team is cuz that's when Avery puts D-Will at the 2 and Watson at the 1 for extended periods of time.

[MrDollarBills]

It is odd how Blatche is allowed to play through errors, but Marshon gets benched within seconds last night.



This buffoon's last day of coaching can't come soon enough.

[MrDollarBills]

ok the post before mine actually shed some light on what im trying to ask i guess.

i also dont know about being properly coached wouldve = beating us by a decent margin.

if our team didnt go full tard from the ft line that game couldve been more comfortably in our favor

If our perimeter guys knocked down those open looks, we would have buried you dudes.

Next time.