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Re: How The Nets Get Dwight Howard During The Summer 

Post#21 » by enetric » Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:59 am

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DWILLoftheGODZ wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:BOS was not interested in taking back JJ for Pierce.

The reported offer was PP for Hump, Brooks, a Eurostash, and 2 future firsts.


Your wrong. They called and asked for one of our top 3 players. Dwill, Lopez or JJ.


No they didn't. I heard that rumor too but it was BS.

And don't say I'm wrong if you're not willing to put in the research to make sure I'm wrong. These were the true details of what BOS called about:

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Source sed #Celtics called #BrooklynNets re PPierce & asked 4 lots: MBrooks, MTeletovic, KHumphries & two future 1st rounders


Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports reports that the Brooklyn Nets and Boston Celtics have discussed a trade that would send Boston Celtics forward Paul Pierce to the Brooklyn Nets, with the Nets offering Kris Humphries, MarShon Brooks, and a first-round draft pick. The Celtics apparently want a "more substantial" package, requesting forward Mirza Teletovic and potentially another pick, but the Nets balked at paying that price.

via http://thebrooklyngame.com/brooklyn-net ... ul-pierce/


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Latest Y! Sports NBA Trade Deadline Buzz: Boston, Brooklyn discuss Paul Pierce. http://tinyurl.com/aqr2xrv


The Boston Celtics and Brooklyn Nets have discussed a trade for Celtics star Paul Pierce, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

The Nets' willingness to a deal centered on forward Kris Humphries, guard MarShon Brooks and a first-round draft pick, but the Celtics want a more substantial package to consider moving Pierce, league sources said.

"The Celtics still highly value Pierce and it wouldn't make sense to trade him for that kind of a package if they're keeping Kevin Garnett," one league source said.

Boston has shown interest in forward Mirza Teletovic and securing another possible first-round pick, but the Nets have shown no inclination to pay that steep of a price for Pierce.

via http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--nba-t ... nM-;_ylv=3



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Re: How The Nets Get Dwight Howard During The Summer 

Post#22 » by enetric » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:16 am

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HelloBrooklyn wrote:Considering that Stephen A. Smith's source is true that Dwight still believes that he is still going to BK, can he still do a sign and trade to force his way in Brooklyn? For example, he can tell the Lakers that he will not resign with them this off-season and the only way they will get value for him is if he was sign and traded to Brooklyn or else he signs with the Mavs or ATL.


We are too far over the cap. Gutting this team for Dwight is not going to happen.


I'm not saying I want it to happen I was just thinking of realistic ideas that can happen like maybe Crash and Brook for Dwight and filler



Under the new CBA teams who are over the apron (LTT+4mil) cannot do S&T deals. While technically possible to get under...we are so far over it that its pretty much a done deal. That ship has sailed. The Dwightmare officially ended on Thursday as that the if even one of the laundry list of moves needed to make it happen fail to happen, it is not allowed.
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Re: How The Nets Get Dwight Howard During The Summer 

Post#23 » by enetric » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:23 am

I posted this in the trade thread for you. Time to answer....



OK where is Linus?

12 pages since the deadline passed and not one post after 10 days of " You guys will see! There IS a GREAT Pumpkin!!!!! Josh Smith WILL be a Net no way Ferry keeps Smith, he will definitely take Hump so that he can get Marshon. You'll see!!!"


The deadline has passed and it time to pay up.

So I ask you the same question AGAIN that I asked you days before the trade deadline:

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Let me ask you one thing...

Are you ready to admit that Hump is not a desirable piece at least? That clearly he is viewed by the Hawks as a penalty and that our offer would be greatly improved in their eyes to take back anyone on an expiring contract NOT to have his contract for next season?

Or do you think that the entire sports media, all the GM's around the league and every poster here are still wrong and that Ferry wants to do the Humpty dance?


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We are going to get Josh Smith. Atlanta is trying to get us to blink and throw in more assets.

BK has alot of experience of dealing with these deadline trades from the Dwightmare and the Melodrama. He wont budge. Ferry should already know this since he couldnt get Brooks in the JJ trade.


If it comes down to it, and it seems like it is, Atlanta will take Hump if we cant find a 3rd team. We probably have to add a protected pick.

I dont see the Bucks giving up one of their young players for Smith so at this point we are only bidding against ourselves.

The Suns are a bigger concern. They can offer draft picks and Gortat. But look at Gortat who is a 11/8.5 and Hump can do that.



Even with the Suns pulling out, the Rockets pulling out and the Bucks saying we will give you absolutely nothing....our offer was so bad Ferry DID prefer to pass.

Are you going to man up and own it? That in fact Hump was undesirable? That Marshon Brooks isnt enough to get a GM to eat a 12 mil extra year for a guy you perceive as a negative?

I mean seriously you need to say it and say it without excuses. Pay the piper.


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Re: How The Nets Get Dwight Howard During The Summer 

Post#24 » by Rollydog » Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:48 am

dude dwillofthegodz that was some crazy **** seriously i commend you for the effort but you are so ridiculously wrong about everything... it has occurred to me that this may be comedy of the highest order; along with your other posts i must say you have a built a very respectable comedic repertoire. the genius of your practical jokery may be that so many people have believed it... if you continue to work on your craft believe me the sky is the limit.
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Re: How The Nets Get Dwight Howard During The Summer 

Post#25 » by DWILLoftheGODZ » Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:57 pm

enetric wrote:I posted this in the trade thread for you. Time to answer....



OK where is Linus?

12 pages since the deadline passed and not one post after 10 days of " You guys will see! There IS a GREAT Pumpkin!!!!! Josh Smith WILL be a Net no way Ferry keeps Smith, he will definitely take Hump so that he can get Marshon. You'll see!!!"


The deadline has passed and it time to pay up.

So I ask you the same question AGAIN that I asked you days before the trade deadline:

enetric wrote:

Let me ask you one thing...

Are you ready to admit that Hump is not a desirable piece at least? That clearly he is viewed by the Hawks as a penalty and that our offer would be greatly improved in their eyes to take back anyone on an expiring contract NOT to have his contract for next season?

Or do you think that the entire sports media, all the GM's around the league and every poster here are still wrong and that Ferry wants to do the Humpty dance?


DWILLoftheGODZ wrote:
We are going to get Josh Smith. Atlanta is trying to get us to blink and throw in more assets.

BK has alot of experience of dealing with these deadline trades from the Dwightmare and the Melodrama. He wont budge. Ferry should already know this since he couldnt get Brooks in the JJ trade.


If it comes down to it, and it seems like it is, Atlanta will take Hump if we cant find a 3rd team. We probably have to add a protected pick.

I dont see the Bucks giving up one of their young players for Smith so at this point we are only bidding against ourselves.

The Suns are a bigger concern. They can offer draft picks and Gortat. But look at Gortat who is a 11/8.5 and Hump can do that.



Even with the Suns pulling out, the Rockets pulling out and the Bucks saying we will give you absolutely nothing....our offer was so bad Ferry DID prefer to pass.

Are you going to man up and own it? That in fact Hump was undesirable? That Marshon Brooks isnt enough to get a GM to eat a 12 mil extra year for a guy you perceive as a negative?

I mean seriously you need to say it and say it without excuses. Pay the piper.


You'll feel better...we'll feel better....then you can have a cookie or a nice Eskimo pie.


Your post make me YAWWNNNNNNN. So who did Atlanta trade Josh Smith to? I missed it. Who beat our offer exactly?

Sorry I cant predict a GM like Ferry losing his best asset for nothing. It was a stupid move. Having alot of cap space in a town where FAs never willingly choose to play will get him fired. It's the equivalent of this:

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Re: How The Nets Get Dwight Howard During The Summer 

Post#26 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:09 pm

It's amazing you're trying to spin the Josh Smith guarantees you made in your favor.

I'm starting to believe Rollydog, all your posts are one big level, this one included.

As NyCe showed, it wasn't Joe Johnson for Pierce. In fact it was Peter Vecsey who reported that specific rumor and almost immediately followed it up by saying the Pierce to Nets talks he broke were real but the Pierce for JJ specifics were his own pure speculation.

As for Dwight, his max will be over $20 million dollars. You've ignored cap holds and the such even if all this unrealistic stuff happened. He would have to take a pretty sizable pay cut.
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Re: How The Nets Get Dwight Howard During The Summer 

Post#27 » by DWILLoftheGODZ » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:19 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:It's amazing you're trying to spin the Josh Smith guarantees you made in your favor.

I'm starting to believe Rollydog, all your posts are one big level, this one included.

As NyCe showed, it wasn't Joe Johnson for Pierce. In fact it was Peter Vecsey who reported that specific rumor and almost immediately followed it up by saying the Pierce to Nets talks he broke were real but the Pierce for JJ specifics were his own pure speculation.

As for Dwight, his max will be over $20 million dollars. You've ignored cap holds and the such even if all this unrealistic stuff happened. He would have to take a pretty sizable pay cut.


Im not trying to spin anything. I was wrong about getting Smith. Just like every other person who predicted he would be traded elsewhere.

I cant find where I saw the rumor that the Celtics wanted one of our top 3 players but NyCe obviously heard it as well. I think it was on Nets Daily.

I dont think we are getting Dwight but It's not impossible.
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Post#28 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:52 pm

You may have seen it on NetsDaily, I'm just letting you know it was for sure from Peter Vecsey on Twitter originally.

Dwightmare is over. He'll be a Rocket IMHO.

Next year we'll probably be going after Love, LMA and Horford in that order, IMHO.

I think they'd give up Lopez for Love as long as they had a follow up move to put a solid center next to him.

The other two they'll be after for picks and prospects with Hump's contract.

I'm not sure if we'll get one of them, but I'd imagine that is what they'll do.

I also wouldn't put it past them to try and combine a bunch of assets such as Brooks, a late bought first and Bogs and our first for a top lotto pick if there's someone we love and feel will simultaneously hold tremendous trade value for the future.
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Re: How The Nets Get Dwight Howard During The Summer 

Post#29 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:49 am

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Im not trying to spin anything. I was wrong about getting Smith. Just like every other person who predicted he would be traded elsewhere.

I cant find where I saw the rumor that the Celtics wanted one of our top 3 players but NyCe obviously heard it as well. I think it was on Nets Daily.



No wonder you were in here talking that stuff about Pierce for JJ, I thought you were going insane at first. I wouldn't use NetsDaily, a paid for mouthpiece of the Brooklyn Nets front office, as a valid source of information to prove your point bro. Just concede that you were wrong, and the fact that we aren't getting Dwight Howard.

Only on NetsDaily would you be fed dreams and lies that any team would trade for Joe Johnson's horrible contract. Utterly ridiculous.
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Re: How The Nets Get Dwight Howard During The Summer 

Post#30 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:51 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:You may have seen it on NetsDaily, I'm just letting you know it was for sure from Peter Vecsey on Twitter originally.

Dwightmare is over. He'll be a Rocket IMHO.

Next year we'll probably be going after Love, LMA and Horford in that order, IMHO.

I think they'd give up Lopez for Love as long as they had a follow up move to put a solid center next to him.

The other two they'll be after for picks and prospects with Hump's contract.

I'm not sure if we'll get one of them, but I'd imagine that is what they'll do.

I also wouldn't put it past them to try and combine a bunch of assets such as Brooks, a late bought first and Bogs and our first for a top lotto pick if there's someone we love and feel will simultaneously hold tremendous trade value for the future.


That would be a lateral move(Lopez for Love). Wouldn't surprise me one bit to see the Nets do that.
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Re: How The Nets Get Dwight Howard During The Summer 

Post#31 » by So Gutta » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:16 am

Dwight will re-sign with the Lakers this summer for a max extension. He will be a Laker for the next 5-7 years.

Kupchak has earned Dwight's trust. And I also believe Dwight wants to be part of the Laker family.
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Post#32 » by enetric » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:57 am

DWILLoftheGODZ wrote:
enetric wrote:I posted this in the trade thread for you. Time to answer....



OK where is Linus?

12 pages since the deadline passed and not one post after 10 days of " You guys will see! There IS a GREAT Pumpkin!!!!! Josh Smith WILL be a Net no way Ferry keeps Smith, he will definitely take Hump so that he can get Marshon. You'll see!!!"


The deadline has passed and it time to pay up.

So I ask you the same question AGAIN that I asked you days before the trade deadline:

enetric wrote:

Let me ask you one thing...

Are you ready to admit that Hump is not a desirable piece at least? That clearly he is viewed by the Hawks as a penalty and that our offer would be greatly improved in their eyes to take back anyone on an expiring contract NOT to have his contract for next season?

Or do you think that the entire sports media, all the GM's around the league and every poster here are still wrong and that Ferry wants to do the Humpty dance?


DWILLoftheGODZ wrote:
We are going to get Josh Smith. Atlanta is trying to get us to blink and throw in more assets.

BK has alot of experience of dealing with these deadline trades from the Dwightmare and the Melodrama. He wont budge. Ferry should already know this since he couldnt get Brooks in the JJ trade.


If it comes down to it, and it seems like it is, Atlanta will take Hump if we cant find a 3rd team. We probably have to add a protected pick.

I dont see the Bucks giving up one of their young players for Smith so at this point we are only bidding against ourselves.

The Suns are a bigger concern. They can offer draft picks and Gortat. But look at Gortat who is a 11/8.5 and Hump can do that.



Even with the Suns pulling out, the Rockets pulling out and the Bucks saying we will give you absolutely nothing....our offer was so bad Ferry DID prefer to pass.

Are you going to man up and own it? That in fact Hump was undesirable? That Marshon Brooks isnt enough to get a GM to eat a 12 mil extra year for a guy you perceive as a negative?

I mean seriously you need to say it and say it without excuses. Pay the piper.


You'll feel better...we'll feel better....then you can have a cookie or a nice Eskimo pie.


Your post make me YAWWNNNNNNN. So who did Atlanta trade Josh Smith to? I missed it. Who beat our offer exactly?

Sorry I cant predict a GM like Ferry losing his best asset for nothing. It was a stupid move. Having alot of cap space in a town where FAs never willingly choose to play will get him fired. It's the equivalent of this:

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You know...yawning is a sign of a lack of oxygen. And your limited brain cant afford to lose any of its oxygen supply...so the lesson you should have learned here is that maybe you should consider keeping your mouth shut when you dont know what the hell you are talking about.

What you said emphatically over and over and over and over was beyond a guarantee that the Hawks would take Hump if it came down to it. If they couldnt find a third team they would take him. That they would take him rather than do nothing. And even though we all...and I mean WE ALL...media, other posters, small children, people in comas were united in telling you that even if every single other team dropped out that Hump was a NEGATIVE to this deal as you insisted he was a positive asset despite his 1.5 years remaining on a 24mil deal.

All that was asked of you was to at least show that you had any character at all by answering for the most obvious flaw in what you were saying. To admit that yes, in fact Hump WAS a not a desireable trade piece after observing King offer him in packages to 6 different teams as each Gm hung up the phone.

That as you flapped your Jerry Lewis sized gums over and over again in extreme oral flatulence forcing all of us to inhale your own brand of dumb as dirt head full of cheese stink, was to at least own up and admit that on this one specific point that you were talking out of the wrong hole.

So you can yawn all you like. You have removed all doubt. You not only came off as a giant fool...but you showed everyone that you have no character by failing to man up with a simple, "yeah I guess all 100000000 of you guys were right about Hump being a draw back to our trade offers because of his contract.

Because you failed so horribly to take this chance to man up...you are at this stage a full fledged troll of this board forever more to be known as Linus for you unwavering and naive belief in....
The Great Pumpkin: Trade deadline 2013.

Now Linus go stand in the corner and suck your thumb until you are ready to man up. And if you still cant admit that you were wrong perhaps a Nets board more to your level is in order for you. I am thinking Netsdaily or perhaps lobotomynetsfan.com.
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Re: How The Nets Get Dwight Howard During The Summer 

Post#33 » by enetric » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:08 am

DWILLoftheGODZ wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:It's amazing you're trying to spin the Josh Smith guarantees you made in your favor.

I'm starting to believe Rollydog, all your posts are one big level, this one included.

As NyCe showed, it wasn't Joe Johnson for Pierce. In fact it was Peter Vecsey who reported that specific rumor and almost immediately followed it up by saying the Pierce to Nets talks he broke were real but the Pierce for JJ specifics were his own pure speculation.

As for Dwight, his max will be over $20 million dollars. You've ignored cap holds and the such even if all this unrealistic stuff happened. He would have to take a pretty sizable pay cut.


Im not trying to spin anything. I was wrong about getting Smith. Just like every other person who predicted he would be traded elsewhere.

I cant find where I saw the rumor that the Celtics wanted one of our top 3 players but NyCe obviously heard it as well. I think it was on Nets Daily.

I dont think we are getting Dwight but It's not impossible.



It isnt being wrong about Smith I have an issue with. Its your unwavering insistence that Hump wasnt a stumbling block to overcome in this deal. Look, even good deals fall apart. No shame in missing a prediction. But the way you kept insisting that our offer was quality was so absurd. Demanding that all these people here who know so much more than you, accept your premise that Hump was not only a negative in the offer but a piece coveted by other GM's. That a low level prospect like Marshon Brooks was somehow so great that it adds that special sauce to the charbroiled poop burger King tried to serve many teams throughout the league.

You consistently and arrogantly insisted the entire world was wrong and that you knew better. So its not the failed trade prediction. Its the arrogance coupled with ignorance that has so many of us pounding on you so harshly. Debate is encouraged. Shaqtin a Fool is NOT.

And you know what? Had you owned it after the deadline passed? Showed that you learned something here? You would be getting a totally different reaction.
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Re: How The Nets Get Dwight Howard During The Summer 

Post#34 » by enetric » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:12 am

So Gutta wrote:Dwight will re-sign with the Lakers this summer for a max extension. He will be a Laker for the next 5-7 years.

Kupchak has earned Dwight's trust. And I also believe Dwight wants to be part of the Laker family.


I had no issue with what you said beyond Kupchak earned his trust. That part was hilarious. Trust in the GM has no bearing on what is going on with Dwight right now.

If Dwight were to sign based on what he knows so far about LA it would be $$$$$$$ and nothing else. And honestly that's fine. That's a perfectly good reason to take a job.

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