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Re: Trade Dwill 

Post#21 » by sca » Mon Feb 3, 2014 9:06 am

Sharcm1 wrote:nets breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +16.8 ppg, +2.5 rpg, and +1.5 apg.

Incoming Players
Kyrie Irving
Earl Clark
John Salmons
Tyler Hansbrough

outgoing players
Deron Williams
Reggie Evans
Mason Plumlee
and draft rights to bojan bodanovic

Cleveland Cavaliers Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +0.5 ppg, +5.7 rpg, and +5.8 apg.
Incoming Players
Reggie Evans
Kyle Lowry
Greivis Vasquez
and first round pick from the raptors

Outgoing Players
Kyrie Irving
Earl Clark


Toronto Raptors Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -17.3 ppg, -8.2 rpg, and -7.3 apg.
Incoming Players
Deron Williams
Mason Plumlee
and draft rights to bodanovic

Outgoing Players
John Salmons
Kyle Lowry
Tyler Hansbrough
Greivis Vasquez
and first round pick

Why would we even touch this.
We're even throwing out a 1st round pick.
What is this, I don't even.
Is this real life.
Sharcm1 pls

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RaptorsLife on Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:45 pm wrote:
nabbs wrote:
RaptorsLife wrote:Nurse can’t be our head coach

Why not? Who is your choice?

Def Messina

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Re: Trade Dwill 

Post#22 » by BK nets BK » Mon Feb 3, 2014 2:11 pm

Lol they need more time haha 45 games into the season and they need more time. Moor time for what exactly? For dwill to give a **** about winning? For Johnson to stop dissapearing? These are the way they play. Give them all the time you want deron will never be a leader and same with Joe. Its so hard to root for this team. I would rather have young players who give it their all but still end up losing then watching this garbage. Let's just hope this franchise grows a pair to try and trade him

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Re: Trade Dwill 

Post#23 » by Prokorov » Mon Feb 3, 2014 6:04 pm

BK nets BK wrote:Lol they need more time haha 45 games into the season and they need more time. Moor time for what exactly? For dwill to give a **** about winning? For Johnson to stop dissapearing? These are the way they play. Give them all the time you want deron will never be a leader and same with Joe. Its so hard to root for this team. I would rather have young players who give it their all but still end up losing then watching this garbage. Let's just hope this franchise grows a pair to try and trade him

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amen.

give me a young scrappy 22-60 team over this group in a heartbeat. its tough when your best player is hurt/diva/underachieving, your second best player is a slow big with injuries who doesnt have a passion for the game, and your 3rd best player is a guy who is past his prime and lost half the time in the shuffle.

you simply arent winning when your 2 best players are 1-way guys who dont have a passion for the game and cant stay healthy. we need to move at least one of them. you cant have the max tied into TWO guys like that. especially when neither is a top 10-15 player
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Post#24 » by LOUiS-D » Mon Feb 3, 2014 11:02 pm

All this talk about passion and attitude is just Skip Bayless style conjecture. Winning isn't attitude. It's execution. You can have a guy like Bynum who all reports show that he doesn't really like basketball. Skill wise he's the best center in the league. If he was healthy he'd be dominating and helping teams win.

We don't have any locker room cancer on this team. Yes the team needs more time for players to adjust their roles and for offensive sets to be put in place to get the right shots. We have an abundance of skill. And yes there's probably not enough time for this unit to work out the offense, defensive rotations and chemistry. Oh well. It's not like we have a lot of flexibility. May as well sit tight.

Health is a legitimate concern, but you can't tell me with a straight face that the injury of landing on Miles Plumlee's foot was an indication of Deron being injury prone. The **** took out his landing. It happens.
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Post#25 » by therealbig3 » Mon Feb 3, 2014 11:07 pm

LOUiS-D wrote:All this talk about passion and attitude is just Skip Bayless style conjecture. Winning isn't attitude. It's execution. You can have a guy like Bynum who all reports show that he doesn't really like basketball. Skill wise he's the best center in the league. If he was healthy he'd be dominating and helping teams win.

We don't have any locker room cancer on this team. Yes the team needs more time for players to adjust their roles and for offensive sets to be put in place to get the right shots. We have an abundance of skill. And yes there's probably not enough time for this unit to work out the offense, defensive rotations and chemistry. Oh well. It's not like we have a lot of flexibility. May as well sit tight.

Health is a legitimate concern, but you can't tell me with a straight face that the injury of landing on Miles Plumlee's foot was an indication of Deron being injury prone. The **** took out his landing. It happens.


Deron's execution hasn't been good either though. And he's visibly hanging back and playing super passive, which has led to the poor execution. What reason is there for him to play with such a lack of aggression if not effort or attitude? Is he worried about stepping on people's toes? Does he not have confidence in himself? Well then he's a mentally weak player, because it seems like his confidence is a roller coaster ride every year. And he's the star of the team...**** stepping on other people's toes, put your mark on the game. They should be worried about stepping on your toes, not the other way around. You can't tell me he's still injured, because physically, he's looked as explosive as ever.

I've been a Deron supporter, but come on, at some point, in year 4 with a team, after you've gotten PAID, if you still can't consistently play like a star, you deserve a lot of criticism, no excuses.
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Re: Trade Dwill 

Post#26 » by Paradise » Mon Feb 3, 2014 11:24 pm

You don't have to shoot well to show aggressiveness. Against Boston, he shot it pretty bad but he impacted the game with smart passes, penetration, attacking the glass. Assertive basketball. His stat line was 7 points, 7 rebounds, 7 assists, 2 steals.

Nothing special but the impact of his stats is what made the difference. He isn't impacting the game whatsoever right now.

His handles are weak all of a sudden, he hasn't gotten to the free throw line at all. I believe this year is a career low in fact in Free Throw Rate.

You what was pathetic? Against OKC, he checked in and the crowd cheered. Every time Durant scored and Deron had the ball, he consistently turned it over and the fans groaned in disappointment. So much so that JVG acknowledged it.

The guy is paid 100 million and isn't the even a Top 5 PG in his own conference with he likes of Rosé, Rondo on the ACL recovery table. He wanted a good team and now he can't even meet DECENT expectations. We all know he won't have to score 20 with the likes of JJ and Pierce here but if you can't impact the game then you deserve criticism. He can't do anything right now.
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Re: Trade Dwill 

Post#27 » by Prokorov » Tue Feb 4, 2014 9:44 pm

De8 wrote:yea kyrie iriving is gonna lead us to the promised land
or maybe mike conley
or maybe reicky rubio
hell maybe even ray felton
hell lets just try to take any pg and he will be better than dwill!!


its not just about one of those guys "leading us to the promise land" its about clearing us of a guy who WONT lead us there who is owed 80+ million over the next 4 seasons.

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