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Re: GT: Philadelphia vs Nets - Feb 3, 7:30PM 

Post#141 » by therealbig3 » Tue Feb 4, 2014 3:25 am

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therealbig3 wrote:Ok, my last comment on Deron, because I'm probably pissing people off by constantly talking about him, and it also just depresses me to keep thinking about what my expectations of him were and what the reality is:

He did have a good game...but he had a good game not because he did a good job of breaking down the defense, not because he did a good job of creating for teammates, not because he was a consistent impact player...but because he was hot with his jumper. If he had a cold shooting night, this would have been another crappy performance from him, and we probably lose.

The way he played tonight is not sustainable, and that's what I want to point out...he didn't play any differently than he has been, he just made more shots than normal tonight.
He wasn't hot with his jumper though, he missed a good amount of good looks, especially in the first half. Shot better as the game went on though. I don't think he's getting the right elevation on his jumper right now.


Well yeah, so he really didn't have that good of a game, because he scored 21 points on 19 shots. Wasn't that efficient, and it kind of agrees with all of the criticism he was getting in this thread. Whatever his numbers were...he didn't seem to have much of an impact, because all he seemed to be doing was shoot jumpers and not much else.
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Re: GT: Philadelphia vs Nets - Feb 3, 7:30PM 

Post#142 » by DarkXaero » Tue Feb 4, 2014 3:28 am

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therealbig3 wrote:Ok, my last comment on Deron, because I'm probably pissing people off by constantly talking about him, and it also just depresses me to keep thinking about what my expectations of him were and what the reality is:

He did have a good game...but he had a good game not because he did a good job of breaking down the defense, not because he did a good job of creating for teammates, not because he was a consistent impact player...but because he was hot with his jumper. If he had a cold shooting night, this would have been another crappy performance from him, and we probably lose.

The way he played tonight is not sustainable, and that's what I want to point out...he didn't play any differently than he has been, he just made more shots than normal tonight.
He wasn't hot with his jumper though, he missed a good amount of good looks, especially in the first half. Shot better as the game went on though. I don't think he's getting the right elevation on his jumper right now.

Right. He just took a GOOD amount of FGAs, as he should every night. Finally.

It's when he goes like 3/12 it's obvious. But as long as he keeps shooting, 8/19 is acceptable. Even 10/23 performances I would be ok with... it's what Melo does with regularity b/c he needs to. Deron needs to be our 1 or 2 scoring option every night.
This I can agree with. I don't mind the inefficient shooting tonight because at least it shows that he's trying to be main option, and that he's trying to assert himself. Yea, he still deferred quite a bit tonight but he still was more assertive than he has been, since his comeback from injury. He needs to play like the #1 option.
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Re: GT: Philadelphia vs Nets - Feb 3, 7:30PM 

Post#143 » by LOUiS-D » Tue Feb 4, 2014 9:55 am

Pessimistic Nets Fan wrote:Terrible win! Deron is done! Pierce is done. KG, done. Terry couldn't be any more done unless his name was Deron Williams. Mirza, AA, Plumlee, Evans, Teague... all done

The sole bright spot was Livingston... but if I had to be honest with myself... I'd say he's done

This team never wins another game between now and the eventual explosion of our sun and subsequent destruction of the solar system... BOOK IT

I non-sarcastically agree with everything you just said.
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Re: GT: Philadelphia vs Nets - Feb 3, 7:30PM 

Post#144 » by Sharcm1 » Tue Feb 4, 2014 1:39 pm

I think anderson's struggle shooting the open threes is really killing the nets. He had been hitting them with regularity and now he can't buy one. His defense is important enough to want to leave him on the floor but he has to be able to hit that open three. he keeps taking them, which is good, but at least 40 percent have to drop since he is wide open. That is another reason the nets have slipped in recent games.
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Re: GT: Philadelphia vs Nets - Feb 3, 7:30PM 

Post#145 » by Prokorov » Tue Feb 4, 2014 5:24 pm

macgyver893 wrote:
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macgyver893 wrote:How is Reggie such a fan favorite?


When he was mainly used as an energy guy, he was always fighting for rebounds(good or bad). Crowd likes the underdog/lesser talented guy, who gives all effort.

I guess I meant to say, how is he still such a fan favorite, lol. He's sooo bad.


because he gives 100% effort any time he is on the floor and fans will ALWAYS appreciate that kind of thing... especially one a team full of guys who give you 60% effort msot nights
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Re: GT: Philadelphia vs Nets - Feb 3, 7:30PM 

Post#146 » by Prokorov » Tue Feb 4, 2014 5:28 pm

therealbig3 wrote:
Paradise wrote:That's what I want to see from Deron


I'm sipping on the Deron haterade right now, so I'm going to continue by making a comment on that last jumper:

EVERYTHING from him is a jumper. I'm very happy to see that he's not shying away from the fact that someone needed to step up and stop the bleeding and he was willing to take the shot...but there's still nothing going towards the rim from him, causing a collapse in the defense, getting to the line, getting a layup, or finding an open teammate. That was a contested midrange jumper with a semi-double team. He made it, I'm happy he made it, and I want to see him look for his offense more...but he never used to be so jumper-dependent the way he is right now. When his jumper is off, he might as well be benched.

But that was a REALLY nice pass to Tele on the break.


Couldnt agree more... what really seperates dwill from the elite scoring gaurds in this league is that he cant get to the rim and way he does he isnt an elite finisher. alot of times when he does get in the lane he chooses not to try and score.

Westbrook, Rose those guys are throwing it down on you. Parker, Paul those guys are getting by you and laying it in. dwill just alot of dribbling to go nowhere. if his shot is on and he teammates are getting stops that lead to run outs, sure he looks good. otherwise he is just a good but not great player.

and his defense is really getting worse and worse. I mean even when we hide him on bad players they are getting wide open 3's or layups or causing our defense to collapse. to me thats the biggest issue, he has become one of the worst defenders in the league
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Re: GT: Philadelphia vs Nets - Feb 3, 7:30PM 

Post#147 » by Prokorov » Tue Feb 4, 2014 5:30 pm

another horrible effort by this team. embarassing considering how bad the 76ers are(worst D in the league, tons of turnovers, no shot blocker, no scorer). they tried their best to lay down and give us the game but we refuses time and time again and let them stay in it late.

horrible D, horrible O, horrible coaching. at least we salvaged the win. but this team needs to be careful or we could see ourselves drop out of the playoff spot in short order
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Re: GT: Philadelphia vs Nets - Feb 3, 7:30PM 

Post#148 » by Prokorov » Tue Feb 4, 2014 5:33 pm

exculpatory wrote:Nice win even though Sixers are TO-prone suckage.

Ensemble win (term posed by Enetric the other day)

Truth 25 points on 5-9 & 14-14 freaking FTs - including the game-icing clutch FTs & active D.
KG 5 blocks & GREAT **** D in the paint down the stretch.
MT 20 points & 5 threes - 2 of them very clutch.
SDot was star of the game with a **** ridiculous line 13-6R-8As & SEVEN STEALS.
Deron 21 points & 6As. I am not going to castrate him like many of you guys.

PS Terry is completely worthless & a total lability.

I predict Ws VS an injured Spurs team, Pistons & NO.


good offense vs the worst defense in the NBA is nothing to get excited about. especially when like 1/3 to 1/2 our points came from the FT line because they have no shot blocker and cant play defense without fouling.

Dwill was nothing special. teletovic just hit wide open shots. KG had a nice stretch late in the game but was awful for most of his time on the floor. and pierce really didnt do anything and was the benefit of terrible fouls by 76ers

this was as bad a peformance as Toronto boston and OKC. we just happend to play the worst team in basketball
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Re: GT: Philadelphia vs Nets - Feb 3, 7:30PM 

Post#149 » by 624 » Tue Feb 4, 2014 6:49 pm

You're such a baby. We were missing Johnson/Kirilenko/Blatche/Lopez and got a W. And it would have been a blowout if Marquis Teague didn't blow the lead away. Calm down.
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Re: GT: Philadelphia vs Nets - Feb 3, 7:30PM 

Post#150 » by Prokorov » Tue Feb 4, 2014 6:56 pm

624 wrote:You're such a baby. We were missing Johnson/Kirilenko/Blatche/Lopez and got a W. And it would have been a blowout if Marquis Teague didn't blow the lead away. Calm down.


those injuries shouldnt matter when you face the leagues worst team who is actively trying to tank, at home, and who spots you a 16-2 lead and antoher 17 point lead in the 3rd quarter. blaming it on marquis teague is equally laughable.

the only thing sad is people thinking this was some kind of solid play or bounce back. if and when we play like this on thursday the spurs will smash us by like 20-30 points.

dont shoot the messenger
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Re: GT: Philadelphia vs Nets - Feb 3, 7:30PM 

Post#151 » by WhateverBro » Tue Feb 4, 2014 7:38 pm

Anderson really needs to stop pump faking the three and taking a contested long two.

Just shoot it. Thanks.
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Re: GT: Philadelphia vs Nets - Feb 3, 7:30PM 

Post#152 » by 624 » Tue Feb 4, 2014 8:05 pm

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624 wrote:You're such a baby. We were missing Johnson/Kirilenko/Blatche/Lopez and got a W. And it would have been a blowout if Marquis Teague didn't blow the lead away. Calm down.


those injuries shouldnt matter when you face the leagues worst team who is actively trying to tank, at home, and who spots you a 16-2 lead and antoher 17 point lead in the 3rd quarter. blaming it on marquis teague is equally laughable.

the only thing sad is people thinking this was some kind of solid play or bounce back. if and when we play like this on thursday the spurs will smash us by like 20-30 points.

dont shoot the messenger


They are not the league's worst team. With MCW they especially aren't (still bad but not the worst)
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Re: GT: Philadelphia vs Nets - Feb 3, 7:30PM 

Post#153 » by 624 » Tue Feb 4, 2014 8:05 pm

WhateverBro wrote:Anderson really needs to stop pump faking the three and taking a contested long two.

Just shoot it. Thanks.


He pump faked a wide open three last night.
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Re: GT: Philadelphia vs Nets - Feb 3, 7:30PM 

Post#154 » by Prokorov » Tue Feb 4, 2014 8:15 pm

624 wrote:
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624 wrote:You're such a baby. We were missing Johnson/Kirilenko/Blatche/Lopez and got a W. And it would have been a blowout if Marquis Teague didn't blow the lead away. Calm down.


those injuries shouldnt matter when you face the leagues worst team who is actively trying to tank, at home, and who spots you a 16-2 lead and antoher 17 point lead in the 3rd quarter. blaming it on marquis teague is equally laughable.

the only thing sad is people thinking this was some kind of solid play or bounce back. if and when we play like this on thursday the spurs will smash us by like 20-30 points.

dont shoot the messenger


They are not the league's worst team. With MCW they especially aren't (still bad but not the worst)


2nd or 3rd worst...

doesnt really change the premise
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Re: GT: Philadelphia vs Nets - Feb 3, 7:30PM 

Post#155 » by Keith Van Horn » Tue Feb 4, 2014 9:21 pm

http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/this-probably-hurt-1515457106/@Sean-Newell
Found a gif of the no foul on Mirza after he hauled in a board last night. LOL.
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Re: GT: Philadelphia vs Nets - Feb 3, 7:30PM 

Post#156 » by 624 » Tue Feb 4, 2014 9:33 pm

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624 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
those injuries shouldnt matter when you face the leagues worst team who is actively trying to tank, at home, and who spots you a 16-2 lead and antoher 17 point lead in the 3rd quarter. blaming it on marquis teague is equally laughable.

the only thing sad is people thinking this was some kind of solid play or bounce back. if and when we play like this on thursday the spurs will smash us by like 20-30 points.

dont shoot the messenger


They are not the league's worst team. With MCW they especially aren't (still bad but not the worst)


2nd or 3rd worst...

doesnt really change the premise


It slightly weakens your agenda.
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Re: GT: Philadelphia vs Nets - Feb 3, 7:30PM 

Post#157 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Feb 4, 2014 10:13 pm

Where's JordanMars at? Somewhere assbetting in a crackhouse basement?
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Re: GT: Philadelphia vs Nets - Feb 3, 7:30PM 

Post#158 » by Prokorov » Wed Feb 5, 2014 1:56 am

624 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
624 wrote:
They are not the league's worst team. With MCW they especially aren't (still bad but not the worst)


2nd or 3rd worst...

doesnt really change the premise


It slightly weakens your agenda.


Does it? is a weak effort vs the 2nd worst team in the league any better then a weak effort vs the worst team in the league?

we played like trash, and that same effort gets us a 20 point but whoopin against the spurs
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Re: GT: Philadelphia vs Nets - Feb 3, 7:30PM 

Post#159 » by MGrand15 » Wed Feb 5, 2014 6:11 am

Prokorov wrote:
624 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
2nd or 3rd worst...

doesnt really change the premise


It slightly weakens your agenda.


Does it? is a weak effort vs the 2nd worst team in the league any better then a weak effort vs the worst team in the league?

we played like trash, and that same effort gets us a 20 point but whoopin against the spurs


Does a 1-pt loss against the Pacers (arguably best team in the league right now) make you feel good then?

Close game against the best team in the league but a loss. Close game against the worst team in the league but a win. If we didn't have to play Teague/Terry/Evans/Plumlee a decent amount of minutes, we blow Philly out of the water, so who cares? Those guys don't get a combined 12 mpg when we're at full strength (minus Lopez).

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