How to utilize Brook in this system upon return..

[NetsWorld]

I was thinking about how to utilize and integrate Brook into this type of small ball lineup which swarms teams defensively on the perimeter and forces turnovers. Instead of using Brook as part of that scheme, which would be difficult based on his strengths and weakness, why not use his low post presence to protect the paint while the rest of the team swarms other teams defensively. In other words, he will act as the shot deterrent in case people want to lay in or drive to the basket while the rest of the team continues playing the "active hands" style of basketball. In essence Brook's strength and the small ball strength comes together into a hybrid which becomes even more difficult to deal with as you are dealing with a team that forces turnovers and can also pack in the paint.

What are your thoughts and ideas on how to utilize Brook into this lineup?

[thebigfour]

It all depends on how brooks mobility will be when he returns. If he looes weight, his foot is 100% and if he takes lessons from Robin on defense then he can be our anchor in the middle. Prior to his injury he was slow and was a liability on the pick and roll defense with opposing guards getting whatever they wanted. I think he can be serviceable but it all depends on his rehab and conditioning. This time around it will be very obvious how he will impact the team as our defense has improved and kidds defensive schemes have been working without him. He will definitely need to shore up his rebounding though if its a hybrid small ball and center line up.

[Prokorov]

I was thinking about how to utilize and integrate Brook into this type of small ball lineup which swarms teams defensively on the perimeter and forces turnovers. Instead of using Brook as part of that scheme, which would be difficult based on his strengths and weakness, why not use his low post presence to protect the paint while the rest of the team swarms other teams defensively. In other words, he will act as the shot deterrent in case people want to lay in or drive to the basket while the rest of the team continues playing the "active hands" style of basketball. In essence Brook's strength and the small ball strength comes together into a hybrid which becomes even more difficult to deal with as you are dealing with a team that forces turnovers and can also pack in the paint.

What are your thoughts and ideas on how to utilize Brook into this lineup?

what happens when teams go 1-5 pick and roll with brook on the floor? that has always been the big issue.

also, do we even play small ball if pierce isnt on the team?

is rebounding an even bigger issue with lopez, a below avg defensive rebounder in there instead of garnett, who is currently the leagues best defensive rebounder?

[Paradise]

If Brook comes back 100% he's going to add shot blocking which is an aspect of our D that is sorely lacking.

On high pick and rolls, when Deron and Brook ICE it, Brook will usually contest the long two or keep the guard out of the lane which is why Brook was on pace to lead the league in intrior D percentage.

If a guard or big gets past Brook on a roll to the rim, Pierce can come over and knock it away for a steal attempt.

I don't see Brook having any problems with our defensive concepts with the small ball lineup. We defend similar to Memphis, so he need to consistently be our Marc Gasol. If Brook isn't healthy, I expect Mason to become a full-time starter.

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[therealbig3]

I'm starting to not really be a believer in Brook, unfortunately. I've seen us play just a much more fun, fluid, defensively tenacious, and flat out more effective style of basketball than I EVER saw with Brook. I really don't want to go back to the ISO-heavy offense we had when Brook was on the team, and the constant ball stopping, and the constant difficulties we had defending the PnR.

I also don't trust his foot at all and think we should trade him if we can get some sort of value back for him.

[therealbig3]

I also think it's somewhat insulting to a guy like Marc Gasol to say "Brook just needs to be our Marc Gasol". What are the similarities, other than they're both 7 footers? Marc Gasol is a much more mobile big man than Brook, and he has much more defensive IQ than Brook...those aren't things that Brook can somehow start replicating out of nowhere. Brook just isn't going to be a quick player, ever. He's always going to be a liability in the PnR as a result. And he's gotten a lot better in terms of his defensive IQ, but I don't think it'll ever be elite, or even very good.

[Prokorov]

If Brook comes back 100% he's going to add shot blocking which is an aspect of our D that is sorely lacking.

On high pick and rolls, when Deron and Brook ICE it, Brook will usually contest the long two or keep the guard out of the lane which is why Brook was on pace to lead the league in intrior D percentage.

If a guard or big gets past Brook on a roll to the rim, Pierce can come over and knock it away for a steal attempt.

I don't see Brook having any problems with our defensive concepts with the small ball lineup. We defend similar to Memphis, so he need to consistently be our Marc Gasol. If Brook isn't healthy, I expect Mason to become a full-time starter.

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go back and watch the games earlier this season. he did none of those things vs the pick and roll. look at the kings game, where off every pick and roll vazques got a wide open 10 foot shot or they got a layup.

brook isnt a good fit for this team and with kidd as coach. he doesnt have the impact his stats indicate and he has too many flaws that prevent winning basketball. i really hope we end up trading him

[Prokorov]

I'm starting to not really be a believer in Brook, unfortunately. I've seen us play just a much more fun, fluid, defensively tenacious, and flat out more effective style of basketball than I EVER saw with Brook. I really don't want to go back to the ISO-heavy offense we had when Brook was on the team, and the constant ball stopping, and the constant difficulties we had defending the PnR.

I also don't trust his foot at all and think we should trade him if we can get some sort of value back for him.

agree with all of this. i hope brook comes back healthy cause i really like him, but his inconsistent play, he lack of agressive play, his issue with defense, rebounding, and handling double teams i just think you can do better with less talent from a team stand point.

[MrDollarBills]

I like Brook but if we can use him as a trade piece I don't hesitate.

It would be intriguing to see him play with the small ball line up but who knows how this roster will look next year?

[NetsWorld]

I like Brook but if we can use him as a trade piece I don't hesitate.

It would be intriguing to see him play with the small ball line up but who knows how this roster will look next year?

Brook, who was a major piece and reason for us even having a chance at winning ball games is now, and I REALLY REALLY REALLY hate to say this, a possible deterrent to our success if and when he comes back . It's interesting to note that Plumlee has developed tremendously, especially defensively and KG is a force at C defensively; this team should honestly focus on bringing a defensive oriented PF and trading Brook. Brook is a force in the paint at altering and blocking shots but is an awful perimeter defender.

Although it has become increasingly unlikely and almost impossible, trading for Noah would make this team a top two defensive team. I would sacrifice Brook's offense for Noah's defense anyday.

[Prokorov]

Although it has become increasingly unlikely and almost impossible, trading for Noah would make this team a top two defensive team. I would sacrifice Brook's offense for Noah's defense anyday.

i cant imagine any way that the bulls would do that... i mean noah as the teams best player has led them to a better record then we have now. noah's injuries usually dont keep him off the court very long, and he destroyed brook in the playoffs.

its clear noah is the better player, more conducive to winning, and more likely to be on the floor. he also makes less money.

[NetsWorld]

Although it has become increasingly unlikely and almost impossible, trading for Noah would make this team a top two defensive team. I would sacrifice Brook's offense for Noah's defense anyday.

i cant imagine any way that the bulls would do that... i mean noah as the teams best player has led them to a better record then we have now. noah's injuries usually dont keep him off the court very long, and he destroyed brook in the playoffs.

its clear noah is the better player, more conducive to winning, and more likely to be on the floor. he also makes less money.

Please read my sentence. It's unlikely as Noah as produced tremendously for them, especially defensively. Hopefully this coming off season the chance will be there to obtain him if the Bulls decide to go in a different direction. I don't expect them to keep Boozer, so them losing another body will probably make things uneasy for Noah again as it did with Deng.

[Prokorov]

Please read my sentence. It's unlikely as Noah as produced tremendously for them, especially defensively. Hopefully this coming off season the chance will be there to obtain him if the Bulls decide to go in a different direction. I don't expect them to keep Boozer, so them losing another body will probably make things uneasy for Noah again as it did with Deng.

different direction? whats that direction to get worse with a bigger injury concern and a player who fits thibs style worse?

[NetsWorld]

Please read my sentence. It's unlikely as Noah as produced tremendously for them, especially defensively. Hopefully this coming off season the chance will be there to obtain him if the Bulls decide to go in a different direction. I don't expect them to keep Boozer, so them losing another body will probably make things uneasy for Noah again as it did with Deng.

different direction? whats that direction to get worse with a bigger injury concern and a player who fits thibs style worse?

What I mean by different direction is to potentially rebuild. I think this will all hinder on Rose's progress with his injuries. If they shut him down again next season, I don't think Chicago is going to stand pat but look to probably rebuild. Chicago got rid of Luol Deng already and Boozer looks to be on his way out as well via amnesty. It's not crazy to think they may rebuild; I don't know if rebuilding will soot Noah too well.

Doesn't mean we trade Lopez directly to them but we may use him in a three or four team deal.

[Prokorov]

Please read my sentence. It's unlikely as Noah as produced tremendously for them, especially defensively. Hopefully this coming off season the chance will be there to obtain him if the Bulls decide to go in a different direction. I don't expect them to keep Boozer, so them losing another body will probably make things uneasy for Noah again as it did with Deng.

different direction? whats that direction to get worse with a bigger injury concern and a player who fits thibs style worse?

What I mean by different direction is to potentially rebuild. I think this will all hinder on Rose's progress with his injuries. If they shut him down again next season, I don't think Chicago is going to stand pat but look to probably rebuild. Chicago got rid of Luol Deng already and Boozer looks to be on his way out as well via amnesty. It's not crazy to think they may rebuild; I don't know if rebuilding will soot Noah too well.

Doesn't mean we trade Lopez directly to them but we may use him in a three or four team deal.

seems extremely far fatched... chicago going into tank mode and trading off their best assets, then taking 75 cents on the dollar for whatever we would get for lopez, then getting 3 teams to all get on the same page with us.

the problem with a 4 team deal is any team we could trade lopez to could just give those same assets to the bulls if the bulls were interested for noah.