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Re: PG: The Stubborn Kidd 

Post#661 » by Maternal » Thu May 8, 2014 10:44 am

asuran wrote:If anyone now says the series is over I'd believe it. They're the Miami Heat.

Those that were pessimistic against the Raptors are ppl that sets the bar way too low.

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Its comical how people are analyzing the series, thinking a team led by 2 former superstars who should be retired, has a chance against one of the best that ever played the game in his prime. This team was a basket away from losing to a Derozan lead raptor team. What do you think a James lead Heat team will do? Stop the nonsense guys.
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Re: PG: The Stubborn Kidd 

Post#662 » by Prokorov » Thu May 8, 2014 4:26 pm

Maternal wrote:
asuran wrote:If anyone now says the series is over I'd believe it. They're the Miami Heat.

Those that were pessimistic against the Raptors are ppl that sets the bar way too low.

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Its comical how people are analyzing the series, thinking a team led by 2 former superstars who should be retired, has a chance against one of the best that ever played the game in his prime. This team was a basket away from losing to a Derozan lead raptor team. What do you think a James lead Heat team will do? Stop the nonsense guys.


hmmm, did a heat team with lebron in his prime not lose to dallas, with an older dirk, kidd and marion way past their primes?

not saying we beat miami, i doubt we will. be we have enough talent to upset them, we just have to be near perfect in all facets..hense people killing kidd.
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Re: PG: The Stubborn Kidd 

Post#663 » by MrDollarBills » Thu May 8, 2014 4:29 pm

Maternal wrote:
asuran wrote:If anyone now says the series is over I'd believe it. They're the Miami Heat.

Those that were pessimistic against the Raptors are ppl that sets the bar way too low.

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Its comical how people are analyzing the series, thinking a team led by 2 former superstars who should be retired, has a chance against one of the best that ever played the game in his prime. This team was a basket away from losing to a Derozan lead raptor team. What do you think a James lead Heat team will do? Stop the nonsense guys.


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Re: PG: The Stubborn Kidd 

Post#664 » by Paradise » Thu May 8, 2014 4:49 pm

Maternal wrote:
asuran wrote:If anyone now says the series is over I'd believe it. They're the Miami Heat.

Those that were pessimistic against the Raptors are ppl that sets the bar way too low.

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Its comical how people are analyzing the series, thinking a team led by 2 former superstars who should be retired, has a chance against one of the best that ever played the game in his prime. This team was a basket away from losing to a Derozan lead raptor team. What do you think a James lead Heat team will do? Stop the nonsense guys.


Did you see anyone say this team was going to beat Miami in a series? I don't think so. Go away, dumbass.
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Re: PG: The Stubborn Kidd 

Post#665 » by jerseyjac » Thu May 8, 2014 9:37 pm

Maternal wrote:
asuran wrote:If anyone now says the series is over I'd believe it. They're the Miami Heat.

Those that were pessimistic against the Raptors are ppl that sets the bar way too low.

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Re: GT: Round 2 Game 1 | Nets @ Heat | Tue, 5/6/14 | 7pm on 

Post#666 » by jerseyjac » Thu May 8, 2014 9:39 pm

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We cut it to 5 because of Deron and Joe. Blatche had literally nothing to do with either play that cut the deficit.


i know he had nothing to do with it... but you cant say he lost the game for us when it was a 2 possesion game with 16 minutes to play when he came out



You can't make massive mistake/brainfarts like Blatche had and expect to beat the champs. That 5 point deficit could have been a lead and it would have been an entirely different ball game.

Blatche crapped the bed as did the rest of the bench.

That's pretty much how I felt... :nonono: we have no chance in this series if the bench plays that poorly making that many mistakes or they end up with that many missed opportunities, etc...
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Re: PG: The Stubborn Kidd 

Post#667 » by NetsWorld » Thu May 8, 2014 9:42 pm

Some of us are down just because we lost game 1;if we win game 2, then the ? through the weekend becomes, is Miami finally gonna go down? Tonight is a pivotal game 2 for the Nets. We can absolutely win this series as we have shown resiliency. It's just the pressure of having to defeat a team which won two titles that's going to make it look extremely difficult and rightfully so. Can the Nets be the first team since Dallas to knock out the Miami Heat? Remains to be seen and I still think this series will go atleast 6 games.
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Re: GT: Round 2 Game 1 | Nets @ Heat | Tue, 5/6/14 | 7pm on 

Post#668 » by SpeedyG » Thu May 8, 2014 9:44 pm

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jeff1624 wrote:
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i know he had nothing to do with it... but you cant say he lost the game for us when it was a 2 possesion game with 16 minutes to play when he came out



You can't make massive mistake/brainfarts like Blatche had and expect to beat the champs. That 5 point deficit could have been a lead and it would have been an entirely different ball game.

Blatche crapped the bed as did the rest of the bench.

That's pretty much how I felt... :nonono: we have no chance in this series if the bench plays that poorly making that many mistakes or they end up with that many missed opportunities, etc...


See, this really is why I think Kidd sat the starters out in the 4th. When it looked like they were about to pull away and momentum was on their side, I felt like Kidd knows that we can't win this series unless our bench steps up. I can only hope his thinking is that letting them all play extensive minutes allows them to get the jitters out and show enough film that the coaches can come back and go back to the guys and say "this is wrong, this is how you fix it"
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Re: PG: The Stubborn Kidd 

Post#669 » by Riley is God » Fri May 9, 2014 3:01 am

hmmm, did a heat team with lebron in his prime not lose to dallas, with an older dirk, kidd and marion way past their primes?

not saying we beat miami, i doubt we will. be we have enough talent to upset them, we just have to be near perfect in all facets..hense people killing kidd.[/quote]
dirk was not "way past his prime" that was miami's first year together also
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Re: PG: The Stubborn Kidd 

Post#670 » by thefloydian » Fri May 9, 2014 5:47 am

Prokorov wrote:
Maternal wrote:
asuran wrote:If anyone now says the series is over I'd believe it. They're the Miami Heat.

Those that were pessimistic against the Raptors are ppl that sets the bar way too low.

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Its comical how people are analyzing the series, thinking a team led by 2 former superstars who should be retired, has a chance against one of the best that ever played the game in his prime. This team was a basket away from losing to a Derozan lead raptor team. What do you think a James lead Heat team will do? Stop the nonsense guys.


hmmm, did a heat team with lebron in his prime not lose to dallas, with an older dirk, kidd and marion way past their primes?

not saying we beat miami, i doubt we will. be we have enough talent to upset them, we just have to be near perfect in all facets..hense people killing kidd.


Are you serious? Dirk at that time was at least 2x as good as anyone on the Nets currently. They also had Tyson Chandler playing at a high level. No comparison. This Nets team has a bunch of washed up big names and the stinking corpse of Deron Williams.
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Re: PG: The Stubborn Kidd 

Post#671 » by Paradise » Fri May 9, 2014 8:07 am

thefloydian wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
Maternal wrote:
Its comical how people are analyzing the series, thinking a team led by 2 former superstars who should be retired, has a chance against one of the best that ever played the game in his prime. This team was a basket away from losing to a Derozan lead raptor team. What do you think a James lead Heat team will do? Stop the nonsense guys.


hmmm, did a heat team with lebron in his prime not lose to dallas, with an older dirk, kidd and marion way past their primes?

not saying we beat miami, i doubt we will. be we have enough talent to upset them, we just have to be near perfect in all facets..hense people killing kidd.


Are you serious? Dirk at that time was at least 2x as good as anyone on the Nets currently. They also had Tyson Chandler playing at a high level. No comparison. This Nets team has a bunch of washed up big names and the stinking corpse of Deron Williams.


Last time I checked, the 2012 Celtics took the Heat to 7 games and was very close to facing OKC in the Finals if it wasn't for LeBron carrying the Heat with 45 points and 18 rebounds to save them from elimination in Game 6 and then scoring 15 straight points in Game 7 after Boston outplayed Miami in that final game.

The washed up big names put up similar numbers that year vs Miami compared to this year and they had much larger roles and with less surrounding talent and depth.

Let's keep it real, the Heat are nothing special outside of the Big 3 and Ray Allen. The Nets clearly have the advantage there and the Nets aren't careless with the ball which means Miami has to be efficient on less FG attempts since they don't rebound which is why the Nets could've forced them into a Game 7 battle. Obviously, Nets fans didn't think Deron would play like a bitch and diminish our chances of a competitive series.
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Re: PG: The Stubborn Kidd 

Post#672 » by thefloydian » Fri May 9, 2014 1:25 pm

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Prokorov wrote:
hmmm, did a heat team with lebron in his prime not lose to dallas, with an older dirk, kidd and marion way past their primes?

not saying we beat miami, i doubt we will. be we have enough talent to upset them, we just have to be near perfect in all facets..hense people killing kidd.


Are you serious? Dirk at that time was at least 2x as good as anyone on the Nets currently. They also had Tyson Chandler playing at a high level. No comparison. This Nets team has a bunch of washed up big names and the stinking corpse of Deron Williams.


Last time I checked, the 2012 Celtics took the Heat to 7 games and was very close to facing OKC in the Finals if it wasn't for LeBron carrying the Heat with 45 points and 18 rebounds to save them from elimination in Game 6 and then scoring 15 straight points in Game 7 after Boston outplayed Miami in that final game.

The washed up big names put up similar numbers that year vs Miami compared to this year and they had much larger roles and with less surrounding talent and depth.

Let's keep it real, the Heat are nothing special outside of the Big 3 and Ray Allen. The Nets clearly have the advantage there and the Nets aren't careless with the ball which means Miami has to be efficient on less FG attempts since they don't rebound which is why the Nets could've forced them into a Game 7 battle. Obviously, Nets fans didn't think Deron would play like a bitch and diminish our chances of a competitive series.


You say the Heat aren't anything special outside of the Big 3 and Ray Allen, but the Nets don't even have a Big 1. And I think you are massively understating the drop off Pierce and especially Garnett have experienced since they played the Heat in that series. And Rondo was probably the best player on that team anyway.
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Re: PG: The Stubborn Kidd 

Post#673 » by NyCeEvO » Fri May 9, 2014 2:17 pm

Riley is God wrote:hmmm, did a heat team with lebron in his prime not lose to dallas, with an older dirk, kidd and marion way past their primes?

not saying we beat miami, i doubt we will. be we have enough talent to upset them, we just have to be near perfect in all facets..hense people killing kidd.

dirk was not "way past his prime" that was miami's first year together also[/quote]
Plus, there were 3 things to take away from that series.

- Dirk went God-mode in a run that I don't think can be duplicated again.
- I highly doubt LBJ will ever play that poorly again in a playoff series.
- That series showed (yet again) that just having the talent doesn't mean you're going to win. There have plenty of teams that lost to less talented teams in the playoffs because they didn't have the chemistry/cohesion, coaching, or hunger that the other teams have.
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Re: PG: The Stubborn Kidd 

Post#674 » by Paradise » Fri May 9, 2014 3:13 pm

thefloydian wrote:
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Are you serious? Dirk at that time was at least 2x as good as anyone on the Nets currently. They also had Tyson Chandler playing at a high level. No comparison. This Nets team has a bunch of washed up big names and the stinking corpse of Deron Williams.


Last time I checked, the 2012 Celtics took the Heat to 7 games and was very close to facing OKC in the Finals if it wasn't for LeBron carrying the Heat with 45 points and 18 rebounds to save them from elimination in Game 6 and then scoring 15 straight points in Game 7 after Boston outplayed Miami in that final game.

The washed up big names put up similar numbers that year vs Miami compared to this year and they had much larger roles and with less surrounding talent and depth.

Let's keep it real, the Heat are nothing special outside of the Big 3 and Ray Allen. The Nets clearly have the advantage there and the Nets aren't careless with the ball which means Miami has to be efficient on less FG attempts since they don't rebound which is why the Nets could've forced them into a Game 7 battle. Obviously, Nets fans didn't think Deron would play like a bitch and diminish our chances of a competitive series.


You say the Heat aren't anything special outside of the Big 3 and Ray Allen, but the Nets don't even have a Big 1. And I think you are massively understating the drop off Pierce and especially Garnett have experienced since they played the Heat in that series. And Rondo was probably the best player on that team anyway.


The Nets scoring comes from a balanced brand of offense to compensate of their lack of a true #1 option player and it gives the Heat problems. Obviously, Pierce and KG have dropped off some since that series but not by that much.
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PG: The Stubborn Kidd 

Post#675 » by 2thehoopand1 » Fri May 9, 2014 3:16 pm

Prokorov wrote:
Maternal wrote:
asuran wrote:If anyone now says the series is over I'd believe it. They're the Miami Heat.

Those that were pessimistic against the Raptors are ppl that sets the bar way too low.

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Its comical how people are analyzing the series, thinking a team led by 2 former superstars who should be retired, has a chance against one of the best that ever played the game in his prime. This team was a basket away from losing to a Derozan lead raptor team. What do you think a James lead Heat team will do? Stop the nonsense guys.


hmmm, did a heat team with lebron in his prime not lose to dallas, with an older dirk, kidd and marion way past their primes?

not saying we beat miami, i doubt we will. be we have enough talent to upset them, we just have to be near perfect in all facets..hense people killing kidd.


Lebron was in his prime. But they had the corpse of mike bobby and Eric Dampier on the starting 5 . Big z and Carlos Arroyo on bench. Dirk wasn't near retirement. The nets don't have a Marion to put on Bron Or an anchor like Chandler to but in the post. Don't really understand comparing this nets team to the 2012 mavs


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Re: PG: The Stubborn Kidd 

Post#676 » by One Love » Sat May 24, 2014 2:50 pm

Good run...

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