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ESPN: Lionel Hollins heralds change

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ESPN: Lionel Hollins heralds change 

Post#1 » by NyCeEvO » Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:56 pm

This was a telling (and IMO, great) article done by ESPN (shocking) on the state of the Nets from Hollins' perspective.

I'm sure we'd all agree that this season (and overall, the last 3 years) have been a major disappointment. While I think everyone should read the article, there are several important quotes that not only help to restore my faith in Hollins but give a shred of confidence that things won't remain this bad for long.

Now, head coach Lionel Hollins, working on just a few hours of sleep like everyone else, is sitting in a courtside chair after practice with a baseball cap knocked back on his head, and he is talking candidly about how "at this stage of our development," the 8-11 Nets "are not a very good team."

Why does he say that?

"Look at our record," Hollins shot back. "It's the truth."

Then he calmly went on to tick off the Nets' defensive limitations, their lack of foot speed, how their big men "get whipped" too often when it comes to rebounding, and how his players struggle to accept they need to control the tempo of games more, because, as presently constructed, they can't play at the faster tempo they'd prefer.


t's become clear it's not a question of if roster changes are coming. But when.

Neither Hollins nor Nets general manager Billy King is even taking great pains to deny it.

King, when asked 11 days ago if he still believes Lopez, Johnson and Williams can win together, raised the first red flag when he said, "We'll see." Just three days ago -- boom -- ESPN's Marc Stein and Ohm Youngmisuk reported that the Nets have begun "exploring" what they might be able to get back in trades if they break up the team.


Remember, too, that personnel changes were part of Hollins' M.O. in Memphis, too, which overhauled its roster between his first and second years -- then took off winning after weeding out who didn't fit.

Right now, the Nets could desperately use a quick shutdown perimeter defender and an athletic, physical, rebounding big man to cover for the lumbering Lopez, who is also a poor passer out of double teams. (Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like his game?)


"Maybe everybody just dealt with what Brook did or Joe [Johnson] or Deron Williams did. My philosophy is totally different. ... I used to say this to a lot of guys: 'Why are you mad at me and getting into an argument with me because of what I say, and yet that guy kicks your ass every night out there on the glass and you don't get into a debate with him? Don't get mad at me! Get mad at him! He's the one you're competing against. I'm on your side!'"


If you ask Hollins about calling out young Plumlee or his unsparing critiques of Lopez's game, Hollins says, "You know, if they ask, 'How is Mase playing?' and I say, 'Not very well.' That's just the truth. What does he need to do? He needs to play better -- at everything. I'm looking at everything. ... Same with Brook.

"If you go back, Brook has averaged 20 points a game. Now, you could be happy with that. But at 7-foot, we don't get rebounds, we don't get shot blocks, we don't get charges. That is as important to winning than just 20 points. It's not just the rebounds, and it's not just the points, and it's not just the charges. It's all of that."

Hollins says what he's attempting here is nothing less than a culture change. Some players already here will survive it. And some will not.

"The culture part of any team is hard to change, and especially with players that have been in the league, because they've had success doing this or that, and then it's, 'Well I've been on winning teams before, and I've still been able to do this,'" Hollins adds.

"I say, 'Well, where are your aspirations? Just being on a winning team? A winning team is 42-40, you know,'" Hollins scoffs.

via http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_ ... lds-change


There are several more notable items in the article that I can't quote without blatantly disrespecting the TOS, but in short it goes into Hollins' personality, his take on the team, his opinion on JJ's comments, and how he's managing this squad.

Read it. Read it all.
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Re: ESPN: Lionel Hollins heralds change 

Post#2 » by jbeachboy » Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:52 pm

this means we will be making roster changes to fit his style and goals
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Post#3 » by Paradise » Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:10 am

Good read. I find it comical some Net fans want to blame Hollins for everything. This current team is 11th in defensive efficiency and 14th in rebounds without any defenders and rebounders, so Hollins has lived up to his end of the bargin. Yet, this roster continues to underachieve.

This team needs a flat out overhaul and it starts with Brook and his blackhole style of play. Lopez has 12 assists on 629 touches this season and posting a 100.2 offensive rating. He's not even impacting the game with his one strength.

I like the guy but he doesn't play winning basketball. He needs to fit in or he needs to go.
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Post#4 » by CalamityX12 » Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:54 am

Who blaming hollins for anything??? That's absurd at this time...
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Re: ESPN: Lionel Hollins heralds change 

Post#5 » by jeff1624 » Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:40 am

Paradise wrote:Good read. I find it comical some Net fans want to blame Hollins for everything. This current team is 11th in defensive efficiency and 14th in rebounds without any defenders and rebounders, so Hollins has lived up to his end of the bargin. Yet, this roster continues to underachieve.

This team needs a flat out overhaul and it starts with Brook and his blackhole style of play. Lopez has 12 assists on 629 touches this season and posting a 100.2 offensive rating. He's not even impacting the game with his one strength.

I like the guy but he doesn't play winning basketball. He needs to fit in or he needs to go.



Who blames Hollins?

Everyone deserves to be critiqued. I can't stand wen he sits the two or three best offensive players at the same time for long stretches. It also annoys me that Jack and Anderson have such long leashes when other players get pulled any time they make mistakes. That being said, I know he's not the problem. Our lack of bench and our inability to hit open shots are the problem.
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Re: ESPN: Lionel Hollins heralds change 

Post#6 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:49 pm

Hollins is the type of leadership that this team has needed for a decade.

I think its refreshing to see someone tell the truth instead of trying to spin things with garbage like "we battled" or "it's a process". He is saying the same thing about these guys that the fanbase has said for the last few years.
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Post#7 » by Zachbretton » Sun Dec 14, 2014 4:51 pm

I just enjoy his honesty. He speaks the truth and doesn't sugarcoat it.

It's clear we need roster changes zoo expand on what we are good at. It's hard to allow the offense to flow when you have someone who just kills ball movement in Brook.

We clearly are best when the offense flows and when we are aggressive on defense. Hopefully we can find the proper changes out there


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Re: ESPN: Lionel Hollins heralds change 

Post#8 » by Prokorov » Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:50 pm

jeff1624 wrote:
Paradise wrote:Good read. I find it comical some Net fans want to blame Hollins for everything. This current team is 11th in defensive efficiency and 14th in rebounds without any defenders and rebounders, so Hollins has lived up to his end of the bargin. Yet, this roster continues to underachieve.

This team needs a flat out overhaul and it starts with Brook and his blackhole style of play. Lopez has 12 assists on 629 touches this season and posting a 100.2 offensive rating. He's not even impacting the game with his one strength.

I like the guy but he doesn't play winning basketball. He needs to fit in or he needs to go.



Who blames Hollins?

Everyone deserves to be critiqued. I can't stand wen he sits the two or three best offensive players at the same time for long stretches. It also annoys me that Jack and Anderson have such long leashes when other players get pulled any time they make mistakes. That being said, I know he's not the problem. Our lack of bench and our inability to hit open shots are the problem.


Hollins has gotten killed in the game threads.
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Post#9 » by Prokorov » Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:51 pm

This is way i was so excited about hollins. he will call guys out and not cater to anyone. and hopefully he will run lopez out of town.
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Re: ESPN: Lionel Hollins heralds change 

Post#10 » by kerry kittles » Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:04 pm

Prokorov wrote:
jeff1624 wrote:
Paradise wrote:Good read. I find it comical some Net fans want to blame Hollins for everything. This current team is 11th in defensive efficiency and 14th in rebounds without any defenders and rebounders, so Hollins has lived up to his end of the bargin. Yet, this roster continues to underachieve.

This team needs a flat out overhaul and it starts with Brook and his blackhole style of play. Lopez has 12 assists on 629 touches this season and posting a 100.2 offensive rating. He's not even impacting the game with his one strength.

I like the guy but he doesn't play winning basketball. He needs to fit in or he needs to go.



Who blames Hollins?

Everyone deserves to be critiqued. I can't stand wen he sits the two or three best offensive players at the same time for long stretches. It also annoys me that Jack and Anderson have such long leashes when other players get pulled any time they make mistakes. That being said, I know he's not the problem. Our lack of bench and our inability to hit open shots are the problem.


Hollins has gotten killed in the game threads.


People kill his rotations, but that's about it. I and others haven't liked when he goes to an all bench - including end of the bench guys to start the 2nd when we've gotten a lead. Like to see him see him keep one of Deron, Joe, or Brook on the court at all times - like the Heat always had one of Bosh, Wade, Bron or the Raptors Val, Derozan, Lowry, etc.
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Post#11 » by simon24 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:59 pm

Hollins is a great coach. It's great to see the front office is on the same page as Hollins, not trying to force him to play with certain guys and not afraid to move players.
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Re: ESPN: Lionel Hollins heralds change 

Post#12 » by Keith Van Horn » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:47 pm

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/12156831/lionel-hollins-brooklyn-nets-identity-make-shots

"We have established an identity: We don't make shots,"


At least he's serious!
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Post#13 » by Prokorov » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:59 pm

macgyver893 wrote:http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/12156831/lionel-hollins-brooklyn-nets-identity-make-shots

"We have established an identity: We don't make shots,"


At least he's serious!


Fantastic quote. Hollins needs to turn it up a notch and really get on these guys.
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Re: ESPN: Lionel Hollins heralds change 

Post#14 » by Keith Van Horn » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:40 pm

Prokorov wrote:
macgyver893 wrote:http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/12156831/lionel-hollins-brooklyn-nets-identity-make-shots

"We have established an identity: We don't make shots,"


At least he's serious!


Fantastic quote. Hollins needs to turn it up a notch and really get on these guys.

It's to the point though where Hollins is doing everything he can. Benching stars, taking away and giving back play time, etc.

If these guys can't find it in their heart to compete night in and night out, then they shouldn't be playing in this league anymore. Our players don't have an aggressive, competitive, and consistent attitude toward wanting to win. They're fine with collecting their paychecks and calling it a day after the other team goes up by 20.

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