Brook Lopez in or out

bigbucksfan1234 · Post #1 » by **bigbucksfan1234** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:22 pm

Hey bucks fan here just wanted to know if you guys think brook will opt in or out and if he does what are the chances that the nets resign him

Mkdaman1818 · Post #2 » by **Mkdaman1818** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:08 pm

bigbucksfan1234 wrote:Hey bucks fan here just wanted to know if you guys think brook will opt in or out and if he does what are the chances that the nets resign him

Opts out, signs for the max with Brooklyn.

Paradise · Post #3 » by **Paradise** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:58 pm

He's going to opt out. We're going to most likely offer him the max. 70% chance he stays.

MrDollarBills · Post #4 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:14 pm

yeah I say 65%-70% chance he stays, simply because of money and familiarity. I would not blame him one bit if he signs with the Bucks though, why stay here and lose?

Post #5 » by **NyCeEvO** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:19 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:yeah I say 65%-70% chance he stays, simply because of money and familiarity. I would not blame him one bit if he signs with the Bucks though, why stay here and lose?

He could go to Orlando too.

MrDollarBills · Post #6 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:33 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:yeah I say 65%-70% chance he stays, simply because of money and familiarity. I would not blame him one bit if he signs with the Bucks though, why stay here and lose?

He could go to Orlando too.

Doubt that. Vucevic averaged 19 and 10 last season and is 24 years old.

Post #7 » by **NyCeEvO** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:52 pm

I was half-joking. I should've used green font.

KeyserRozay · Post #8 » by **KeyserRozay** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:57 am

So what is the max that Brook can get?

Claud · Post #9 » by **Claud** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:51 am

Brook will get the max. I would say 75% he stays..... I would be surprised (Not to mention sad) if Bropez leaves.

isekii · Post #10 » by **isekii** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:15 pm

We can't sign and trade Brook can we? Package him and DWill to Sacto for DMC and filler? Hope King can pull a rabbit out of a hat.

Post #11 » by **NyCeEvO** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:25 pm

isekii wrote:We can't sign and trade Brook can we? Package him and DWill to Sacto for DMC and filler? Hope King can pull a rabbit out of a hat.

We can't receive an S&T'd player but we can S&T a player to another team.

However, there are a couple of things working against us.

1) In the old CBA, when you S&T'd a player that player would get a full Bird contract (i.e. a contract with an extra year and increased annual salary percentage increases that were only available to the home team.) Right now, we can offer Brook a 5-year deal with 7.5% annual increases while other teams can only offer him a 4-year deal with 4.5% annual increases. In past CBAs, we could sign Brook to that 5-year deal and he could take that contract with him to his new team. Under the current CBA, he can only take the 4-year deal with 4.5% annual increases even though he's is traded to a new team.

There really is no incentive for him to do this unless he really wants to go to a team that doesn't have enough cap space to sign him outright. While this is the case for SAC, it all rides on whether Brook wants to go them rather than any other team since he'd (presumably) get the same contract on any other team.

2) For SAC to even entertain the idea, we can only send them positive assets. DMC is on an great contract heading into the TV money increase.

Brook, Plumlee, Bogs would probably be the base of the package we'd have to send them. I don't think SAC would want to keep him in the Western Conference so that's a plus for us but we'd have to beat out every other Eastern Conference team that wants him. I'm not optimistic about that in addition to the fact that Brook has to want to go there.

isekii · Post #12 » by **isekii** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:19 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:
isekii wrote:We can't sign and trade Brook can we? Package him and DWill to Sacto for DMC and filler? Hope King can pull a rabbit out of a hat.

We can't receive an S&T'd player but we can S&T a player to another team.

However, there are a couple of things working against us.

1) In the old CBA, when you S&T'd a player that player would get a full Bird contract (i.e. a contract with an extra year and increased annual salary percentage increases that were only available to the home team.) Right now, we can offer Brook a 5-year deal with 7.5% annual increases while other teams can only offer him a 4-year deal with 4.5% annual increases. In past CBAs, we could sign Brook to that 5-year deal and he could take that contract with him to his new team. Under the current CBA, he can only take the 4-year deal with 4.5% annual increases even though he's is traded to a new team.

There really is no incentive for him to do this unless he really wants to go to a team that doesn't have enough cap space to sign him outright. While this is the case for SAC, it all rides on whether Brook wants to go them rather than any other team since he'd (presumably) get the same contract on any other team.

2) For SAC to even entertain the idea, we can only send them positive assets. DMC is on an great contract heading into the TV money increase.

Brook, Plumlee, Bogs would probably be the base of the package we'd have to send them. I don't think SAC would want to keep him in the Western Conference so that's a plus for us but we'd have to beat out every other Eastern Conference team that wants him. I'm not optimistic about that in addition to the fact that Brook has to want to go there.

They wanted Plumlee thrown in with DWill previously. so I wouldn't be opposed to throwing in Plumlee. Especially if we can somehow get DMC. As much as I like Lopez on this team, there's so many what ifs with him although he held up nicely this season.

Prokorov · Post #13 » by **Prokorov** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:03 pm

bigbucksfan1234 wrote:Hey bucks fan here just wanted to know if you guys think brook will opt in or out and if he does what are the chances that the nets resign him

id give my first born if he opts in or opts and goes to another team...

that said it is a 100% certainty he opts out

it is a 100% cerrtainty the nets offer him the full max

it is extremely likely he takes it (basketball isnt something that drives him, he is happy in ny, i doubt winning factors into his decision)

Prokorov · Post #14 » by **Prokorov** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:04 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:yeah I say 65%-70% chance he stays, simply because of money and familiarity. I would not blame him one bit if he signs with the Bucks though, why stay here and lose?

because he isnt a super competitive guy, doesnt seem like someone who is frustrated by losing. and NY is alot nicer then milwaukee, especially if you plan to start a comic book empire

isekii · Post #15 » by **isekii** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:16 pm

fingers crossed on Boogie lol.

SpeedyG · Post #16 » by **SpeedyG** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:08 pm

When is his deadline to opt in?

Post #17 » by **NyCeEvO** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:13 pm

SpeedyG wrote:When is his deadline to opt in?

Monday (June 29th).

MrDollarBills · Post #18 » by **MrDollarBills** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:21 pm

Starting to hope that he leaves. I think that the scorched earth option will be the only way to get King out of the front office and for the Russians to have a severe moment of clarity.