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Re: Re: Re: 2015 NBA Draft/Offseason Thread 

Post#2041 » by Paradise » Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:08 pm

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not really. i mean, we would have enough to give out 3 max contracts next year if we let thad and brook walk. next year to me is a complete throw away season. if we went 0-82 i woulnt care as long as we put ourself back in great cap shape.

im going to be pretty bummed out when we give huge contracts to thad and brook and are locked into a core of dwill/bogs/thad/brook


Lol What team is going to have any respectability doing that? The Sixers have followed that pattern for a few years now and I have yet to hear of any stars like Aldridge, Love, Rondo, Butler express interest in Philadelphia despite having tons of cap room. Being the Sixers without draft picks is what you're proposing.

It's a total myth. I can understand the logic of not wanting to lock into a sketchy core but whoring out for cap space while we gift Boston a lottery pick isn't helping our cause. Any free agent can simply choose Boston instead of here.


Two years ago weren't you all about cap space in 2016, Durant this Durant that? What happened?! You are almost there and you don't even want to try?

I absolutely do want unlimited cap space to make a run at Durant and whoever else but not at the sake of stripping the roster to bare bones while simultaneously making Boston or Philly look better options.

Something has to be in place to make it semi-attractive aside from money, arena and location.
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Re: 2015 NBA Draft/Offseason Thread 

Post#2042 » by NyCeEvO » Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:11 pm

enetric wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
not really. i mean, we would have enough to give out 3 max contracts next year if we let thad and brook walk. next year to me is a complete throw away season. if we went 0-82 i woulnt care as long as we put ourself back in great cap shape.

im going to be pretty bummed out when we give huge contracts to thad and brook and are locked into a core of dwill/bogs/thad/brook


I agree. I could care less about next season if they had the guts take the hit and go for the 2016 cap space. What's the worst case scenario? We strike out and use the cash we would overpay Thad with and overpay someone comparable next year.

But best case you add much better players.

I like Thad...but let him go. He was low cost and served his purpose.

E, you know that's not going to happen.

Remember what you said back in 2010 when some of us wanted to take the slow road in rebuilding and keep Favors? "Prokhorov wants to go into Brooklyn with a bang."

This guy is not going to just let himself appear weak even for 1 season.

One of Proky's best friends (Sergey Kushchenko, president of CSKA Moscow which was the Russian team Prok owned) just turned 50 not too long ago. As a present, Prokhorov gave him a seat on the board of directors. When Prokhorov turned 50 last month, his friend made a video about his ownership of the Nets.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEXDI9BuI1k[/youtube]
In the short 3 minute clip, they still find time to talk about and make fun of the Knicks as if they're the worst team in the league. To me, it's still quite clear that their feelings haven't changed.

The primary goal is to win a championship but a close secondary goal is to always try to be better than the Knicks. Even though we weren't that great last season, the Nets organization still had the audacity to indirectly say "Hey, at least we're not the Knicks". (Some of the antics are Brett Yormarks' tweets about Brooklyn being the only place where you can watch playoff basketball in NYC.)

It's still a game to them IMO. I don't know when they'll wake up and smell the roses but I just can't see them doing what Phil did and recognizing that 1 terrible season can lead to many good seasons. They'd prefer staying mediocre until we become good than going really bad for a year and then try to field a good team.
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2015 NBA Draft/Offseason Thread 

Post#2043 » by Keith Van Horn » Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:09 pm

Net Sentence wrote:1. Resign Lopez and build around him. Bringing back Lopez is a must and we need to surround him complimentiary players.

2. Let Thad and Mirza walk. It's not worth locking up bigs who dont rebound or play defense. Thad at the right price would be nice but he is going to be to expensive.

3. Trade Jack, Plumlee, CJ and 2.3 mil for Taj, Hinrich and #22. Taj is coming off ankle surgery but he should be back early in the season. The Bulls have a log jam of PF in Gasol, Mirotic and Taj and are thin at center. Gasol can fill in at center but he plays best at PF. Plumlee makes a lot of sense for them. Jack has starting expeirence and can fill in for Rose when he misses games. Hinrich's contract is dead weight and we do the curtesy of taking it on. Nets get the #22 pick to get Delon Wright. If nessicary swap Markel our for CJ.

4. Trade back with Minny. Minny is reportedly packaging their 2 2nd round picks for a lat 1st rounder. Use the 3 picks on Joe Young, Cedi Osman and Cliff Alexander. Stash Osman in Euorpe for a year or two. Young steps into Jack's 6th man role. Groom Alexander in Taj's mold.

5. Stretch DWill to get the full MLE. Use the MLE on Alexis Ajinca. Ajinca is a good shooting big with good defensive upside.

6. Trade JJ for Rudy Gay and Jason Thompson. If Sactown is looking to have a fire sale then we step in and give them cap relief.

7. Use TE to get Perry Jones. OKC is looking to dump Jones. We kick the tires on his upside.

8. Resign Anderson

Lopez / Ajinca
Taj / Thompson / Alexander
Gay / P Jones / Karasev
Bogs / Anderson
D Wright / J Young

I'm starting a campaign for you to be our GM. That sounds like more of a plan than I've ever heard from BK.


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Re: 2015 NBA Draft/Offseason Thread 

Post#2044 » by Ror1997 » Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:15 pm

Why would we want a second round pick to be our sixth man right away?
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Re: 2015 NBA Draft/Offseason Thread 

Post#2045 » by Net Sentence » Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:27 pm

Ror1997 wrote:Why would we want a second round pick to be our sixth man right away?


Because he is one of the top 3 back court scorers in the draft behind Russell and Hezonja. Maybe throw R Vaughn into that group.

Unlike Hezonja and Vaughn who are 20 and 19, Young will be 23 and should be able to easily step in a put points on the board.
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Post#2046 » by NyCeEvO » Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:29 pm

If we can get Christmas in the 2nd round, I think that's a good value pick.

I like his skills, hustle, and attitude.
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Re: 2015 NBA Draft/Offseason Thread 

Post#2047 » by Ror1997 » Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:35 pm

Net Sentence wrote:
Ror1997 wrote:Why would we want a second round pick to be our sixth man right away?


Because he is one of the top 3 back court scorers in the draft behind Russell and Hezonja. Maybe throw R Vaughn into that group.

Unlike Hezonja and Vaughn who are 20 and 19, Young will be 23 and should be able to easily step in a put points on the board.


I agree that Young might be able to score while making th ejump, but i don't want to leave the 6th man spot to him until he proves himself. would rather markel bnown come in and try to b e a tony allen type player
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Re: 2015 NBA Draft/Offseason Thread 

Post#2048 » by Claud » Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:43 pm

Even though we have **** picks... I am still excited for tonight... #LifeAsANetsFan :lol:
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Re: 2015 NBA Draft/Offseason Thread 

Post#2049 » by NyCeEvO » Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:45 pm

This is the best news (kinda) concerning the Nets that we'll hear all night lol:

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Re: 2015 NBA Draft/Offseason Thread 

Post#2050 » by Net Sentence » Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:47 pm

I dont have twitter, is Woj on the 7th pick yet lol
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Re: 2015 Off-season Thread 

Post#2051 » by Ror1997 » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:01 pm

i feel a woj bomb coming
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Re: 2015 Off-season Thread 

Post#2052 » by CalamityX12 » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:05 pm

I feel the sh*tz are coming

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