GT: Rockets vs Nets @ Barclays - Nov 8th, 7:30 PM YES Network

[Prokorov]

lopez needs to stop forcing passes that he sucks at or cant make. just shoot the freakin ball you big goof.

Then that would turn into a "poor shot selection" argument.


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Is it hard to expect him to not take awful spinning shots, stop holding the ball and waiting for the double team and stop forcing passes into traffic all at the same time. I dont know why we have to pick our poison with him. His eFG% is a career low 47.7% and his TO/36 is a career high as well. He should be getting criticized a lot more then he is for his carelessness.

agreed. also, while i hate when he takes bad shots, id rather he take bad shots then to not shoot and to try and thread the needle on passes and do things that he simply cant do. but overall i was fine with how brook played. yeah a ton of turnovers but that can kind of be said for everyone on both teams, it was an ugly sloppy game.

Brook REALLY needs to work on his awareness of being double teams. i mean, he basically traps himself and is so slow to pass out of it it almost always goes poorly

[Prokorov]

Was at the game last night, here were my thoughts:

Thad dominated that game early. just all out hustle and will go him/us alot of easy buckets. energy play. it is really nice to be on this side of things... the less talented team that plays hard and takes advantage of a super talented team who is just going through the motions. i was suprised thad didnt have 18 or 20 at halftime, as it seemed like thats the kind of impact he had.

Game got REAL ugly after that. but we kept playing hard. they could have easily taken the lead but after turnovers we dug in and hustled and defended still. i thought ellington and bogs gave us some much needed shooting in the 3rd, that helped cause they started to heat up and we matched them with some threes of our own.

Joe was enormous down the stretch. he hit 5 daggers where they were about to get in striking range or have the ball with a chance to tie and joe pushed it back to 5 or 6 point lead.

Jack played well aslo. really a great all around team win. it was ugly but i think those types of games favor us. we want to make it an ugly game where guys get away from what they do well and hustle plays a bigger role.

only real negative i took away is just how bad a bbiq team we are. how many times we ran at non threats leaving thornton open, or doubled inside for no reason, or overhelped.

[Prokorov]

Also, is it just me, or is anyone else 100% NOT suprised when an opposing player hits a 40 foot turn around with the shot clock set to expire. teams are automtic against us lifetime in those situations

[Prokorov]

On an unrelated note, it's absolutely pathetic reading Celtic fans gloating over RHJ fracturing his ankle. I don't understand how that could be tolerated. For such a historic franchise their fanbase show more desperation than the Knicks and Raptors. Embarrassing.

That is just absolutely unacceptable. That whole thread they got is about wishing injuries to teams they hope to get a draft pick, especially the Nets as it is unprotected. And a 3 page rejoice from RHJ injury. And one of the main offenders on this case is a forum MOD

where are these threads? thats deplorable

[Prokorov]

Yeah... I am a broken record on this, so forgive me, but it's shocking that such a large portion of that board seems to so obnoxious. What hits you... is that it's even mods who not only don't realise how embarrassing they look, but they actually are instigators. I get rooting for losses, but they go way overboard about it and make no mistake, every-time the Nets win, it hurts them badly. They don't root for the Celtics at this stage. They're all focused on the Nets, because it's the Nets pick who gives them hope of having a star player in the future. Hopefully the Nets build a good roster next season and this pick talk can be quietened for good. Until then, every win counts and cuts them deep.

Anyway.

Joe Johnson

Plays 43 minutes(!) and was still effective at the end. That play where he drew an and 1 was beautiful and so smart.

The Rockets are a hot mess(although the Mavs somehow found a way to lose to them recently) and the kind of team the Nets should beat because their "system" is broken down because Harden has been playing like he's been binge drinking all season. That sequence where Lawson can't finish a layup... and then Harden rebounds and he misses as well was very symbolic. These guys... I swear... they look like they're still on the booze. 23 turnovers!

Hopefully they start fast against the Sixers and are able to manage the minutes, but more likely than not, it'll be the other way around and they'll end up chasing the game. The Clippers matchup is interesting, because that team is suffering from many of the same problems the Rockets have. No established lineup. Bad chemistry. Potential to be an ugly game that the Nets can win.

i kind of agree with you... we are kind of better off facing a rockets team that is going through the motions as opposed to a less talented philly or bucks type teams who arent good but will match our level of effort

[Dirk]

Was at the game last night, here were my thoughts:

Thad dominated that game early. just all out hustle and will go him/us alot of easy buckets. energy play. it is really nice to be on this side of things... the less talented team that plays hard and takes advantage of a super talented team who is just going through the motions. i was suprised thad didnt have 18 or 20 at halftime, as it seemed like thats the kind of impact he had.

Game got REAL ugly after that. but we kept playing hard. they could have easily taken the lead but after turnovers we dug in and hustled and defended still. i thought ellington and bogs gave us some much needed shooting in the 3rd, that helped cause they started to heat up and we matched them with some threes of our own.

Joe was enormous down the stretch. he hit 5 daggers where they were about to get in striking range or have the ball with a chance to tie and joe pushed it back to 5 or 6 point lead.

Jack played well aslo. really a great all around team win. it was ugly but i think those types of games favor us. we want to make it an ugly game where guys get away from what they do well and hustle plays a bigger role.

only real negative i took away is just how bad a bbiq team we are. how many times we ran at non threats leaving thornton open, or doubled inside for no reason, or overhelped.

You should have shouted "Bogie, stop playing like a girl!".

I think that until the Thornton run, the Nets were playing perfect. They focused on stopping Harden and the Rockets didn't know what to do. The Rockets have been a team that seems to be looking for reasons to quit in games. It was on Thornton's run, thatthe game turned into really ugly and basically it was all down to JJ + the Rockets making dumb mistakes on top of dumb mistakes. That game would have been a loss against the vast majority of the teams in the league. The Nets ended up with 24 turnovers... and still won.

This team won't blow out anyone, the wins seem like it will always be like this, ugly, tight games, where the breaks go your way for a change and you pull off the wins. It's been like that thus far and it will probably continue to be like that, one of the main reasons being, no bench, no threats of guys who can explode any given game.

[Prokorov]

Was at the game last night, here were my thoughts:

Thad dominated that game early. just all out hustle and will go him/us alot of easy buckets. energy play. it is really nice to be on this side of things... the less talented team that plays hard and takes advantage of a super talented team who is just going through the motions. i was suprised thad didnt have 18 or 20 at halftime, as it seemed like thats the kind of impact he had.

Game got REAL ugly after that. but we kept playing hard. they could have easily taken the lead but after turnovers we dug in and hustled and defended still. i thought ellington and bogs gave us some much needed shooting in the 3rd, that helped cause they started to heat up and we matched them with some threes of our own.

Joe was enormous down the stretch. he hit 5 daggers where they were about to get in striking range or have the ball with a chance to tie and joe pushed it back to 5 or 6 point lead.

Jack played well aslo. really a great all around team win. it was ugly but i think those types of games favor us. we want to make it an ugly game where guys get away from what they do well and hustle plays a bigger role.

only real negative i took away is just how bad a bbiq team we are. how many times we ran at non threats leaving thornton open, or doubled inside for no reason, or overhelped.

You should have shouted "Bogie, stop playing like a girl!".

I think that until the Thornton run, the Nets were playing perfect. They focused on stopping Harden and the Rockets didn't know what to do. The Rockets have been a team that seems to be looking for reasons to quit in games. It was on Thornton's run, thatthe game turned into really ugly and basically it was all down to JJ + the Rockets making dumb mistakes on top of dumb mistakes. That game would have been a loss against the vast majority of the teams in the league. The Nets ended up with 24 turnovers... and still won.

This team won't blow out anyone, the wins seem like it will always be like this, ugly, tight games, where the breaks go your way for a change and you pull off the wins. It's been like that thus far and it will probably continue to be like that, one of the main reasons being, no bench, no threats of guys who can explode any given game.

normally 24 turnovers would piss me off.... but honestly, that was kind of just how the flow of the game was... up and down, sloppy.

[jbeachboy]

hollins needs to play markel brown over ellington, markel changed the game with offense, defense, and passing once he came in and thornton get out of his scoring rhythym.

[jbeachboy]

hollins needs to play markel brown over ellington, markel changed the game with offense, defense, and passing once he came in and thornton get out of his scoring rhythym.

[Prokorov]

hollins needs to play markel brown over ellington, markel changed the game with offense, defense, and passing once he came in and thornton get out of his scoring rhythym.

ellington came in and hit some shots in the 3rd as well.

Brown looks good because he is getting small spurts. all these backup guys look better in small spurts and get exposed in big minutes. thats why they are backups. markel would be getting tons of hate for being terrible offensively and make terrible boneheaded turnovers and what not if he played bigger minutes.

i think using markel situationally, 6 minutes or 8 minutes every 2 or 3 guys just for situations like last night is the way to go

[Born_Ready]

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hollins needs to play markel brown over ellington, markel changed the game with offense, defense, and passing once he came in and thornton get out of his scoring rhythym.

I think Hollins counted on Markel early on but Brown fell out of favor due to his inability to do anything offensively. Brown has to be consistent with the effort he displayed last night if he wants to warrant more minutes in my opinion. It's good to see Hollins went to him last night. Ellington brings ZERO to the team. I wish he could be used as trade bait.

[Prokorov]

:nod: 6

hollins needs to play markel brown over ellington, markel changed the game with offense, defense, and passing once he came in and thornton get out of his scoring rhythym.

I think Hollins counted on Markel early on but Brown fell out of favor due to his inability to do anything offensively. Brown has to be consistent with the effort he displayed last night if he wants to warrant more minutes in my opinion. It's good to see Hollins went to him last night. Ellington brings ZERO to the team. I wish he could be used as trade bait.

when ellington is hitting shots he brings alot. look at our recored when we hit 8 or more threes or shoot 40% or better from 3 as a team. it makes a huge difference

ellington is a proven shooter, you need to throw him out there know eventually he will come out of his slump, which he has shown some signs of doing

[jbeachboy]

marcus thornton was destroying wayne ellington, i recall ellington missing a layup and a few wide open shots.

[jbeachboy]

ellington is only good at catch and shooting, he doesnt really do so good when he has to go off dribble and create.

[jbeachboy]

guys all is well, bargnani returned to practice and is probable for sixers game tomorrow!

[MrDollarBills]

ellington is only good at catch and shooting, he doesnt really do so good when he has to go off dribble and create.

he can't even catch and shoot. He catches and needs to take a set up dribble to get into form

[MrDollarBills]

Yeah... I am a broken record on this, so forgive me, but it's shocking that such a large portion of that board seems to so obnoxious. What hits you... is that it's even mods who not only don't realise how embarrassing they look, but they actually are instigators. I get rooting for losses, but they go way overboard about it and make no mistake, every-time the Nets win, it hurts them badly. They don't root for the Celtics at this stage. They're all focused on the Nets, because it's the Nets pick who gives them hope of having a star player in the future. Hopefully the Nets build a good roster next season and this pick talk can be quietened for good. Until then, every win counts and cuts them deep.

Anyway.

Joe Johnson

Plays 43 minutes(!) and was still effective at the end. That play where he drew an and 1 was beautiful and so smart.

The Rockets are a hot mess(although the Mavs somehow found a way to lose to them recently) and the kind of team the Nets should beat because their "system" is broken down because Harden has been playing like he's been binge drinking all season. That sequence where Lawson can't finish a layup... and then Harden rebounds and he misses as well was very symbolic. These guys... I swear... they look like they're still on the booze. 23 turnovers!

Hopefully they start fast against the Sixers and are able to manage the minutes, but more likely than not, it'll be the other way around and they'll end up chasing the game. The Clippers matchup is interesting, because that team is suffering from many of the same problems the Rockets have. No established lineup. Bad chemistry. Potential to be an ugly game that the Nets can win.

i kind of agree with you... we are kind of better off facing a rockets team that is going through the motions as opposed to a less talented philly or bucks type teams who arent good but will match our level of effort

Rockets remind me of the Nets of the last few years "led" by D-Will. Guys like Harden and Howard are coach killers because they don't give a ****. This is the problem with maxing out guys in the NBA now. You have to really vet these players. Rockets have two max guys and we beat them twice. neither of them in either contest gave max level effort.

[jbeachboy]

Yeah... I am a broken record on this, so forgive me, but it's shocking that such a large portion of that board seems to so obnoxious. What hits you... is that it's even mods who not only don't realise how embarrassing they look, but they actually are instigators. I get rooting for losses, but they go way overboard about it and make no mistake, every-time the Nets win, it hurts them badly. They don't root for the Celtics at this stage. They're all focused on the Nets, because it's the Nets pick who gives them hope of having a star player in the future. Hopefully the Nets build a good roster next season and this pick talk can be quietened for good. Until then, every win counts and cuts them deep.

Anyway.

Joe Johnson

Plays 43 minutes(!) and was still effective at the end. That play where he drew an and 1 was beautiful and so smart.

The Rockets are a hot mess(although the Mavs somehow found a way to lose to them recently) and the kind of team the Nets should beat because their "system" is broken down because Harden has been playing like he's been binge drinking all season. That sequence where Lawson can't finish a layup... and then Harden rebounds and he misses as well was very symbolic. These guys... I swear... they look like they're still on the booze. 23 turnovers!

Hopefully they start fast against the Sixers and are able to manage the minutes, but more likely than not, it'll be the other way around and they'll end up chasing the game. The Clippers matchup is interesting, because that team is suffering from many of the same problems the Rockets have. No established lineup. Bad chemistry. Potential to be an ugly game that the Nets can win.

i kind of agree with you... we are kind of better off facing a rockets team that is going through the motions as opposed to a less talented philly or bucks type teams who arent good but will match our level of effort

Rockets remind me of the Nets of the last few years "led" by D-Will. Guys like Harden and Howard are coach killers because they don't give a ****. This is the problem with maxing out guys in the NBA now. You have to really vet these players. Rockets have two max guys and we beat them twice. neither of them in either contest gave max level effort.

yeah i think harden laziness in games is rubbing off on dwight, injuries really messed up dwight but plus he was real effective and in his prime with stan van gundys offense and defense and roster around him. they really play uninspired. even harden is lazy in offense now considering his mediocre defense.

[jbeachboy]

ellington is only good at catch and shooting, he doesnt really do so good when he has to go off dribble and create.

he can't even catch and shoot. He catches and needs to take a set up dribble to get into form

yeah they need to trade ellington too at deadline if they can. he has been awful.

[CalamityX12]

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GDT for tonight por favor????