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Post#101 » by Prokorov » Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:29 pm

Net Sentence wrote:Bargs cant play vs a scorer. He was fine out there when he was guarding Jordan. Once we put Lopez back in and he had to guard Blake he was exploited. He is shooting really well as of late and should get more time.

Lopez needs to be traded. He is going downhill with his carelessness and lack of attention. It's like he has a 3 step limit after he comes out on the PnR. If he cant get back on that 3rd step then he just reaches or gives up on the play.

Jack didnt play that bad tonight. Complaining about him not being able to guard Chris Paul is funny to me. Paul is a top 5-7 player in the NBA.

We could have really used Larkin down the stretch. He brings an energy level to the floor and he is good at shooting those quick 3s.

All in all, it was a hard game to watch but it's nice to see the team fight to the end.



agree on jack, dude has played over his head all year and sustained that play already for 1/4 of the season. if he doesnt outduel chris paul i can live with that.
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Re: PG: Brook reverts back to his alter ego, Mr. Softie 

Post#102 » by Prokorov » Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:32 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Blame the GM.



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Post#103 » by Prokorov » Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:34 pm

Paradise wrote:Our defense was such an embarrassment. I get this team doesn't feature many talented scorers but I don't understand why they have to mail it in on defense and it's not like they exert a ton of energy scoring. Hollins can't do much with so little but I'm sorry, why is Bargnani on the floor on defensive poessesions again? No Thomas Robinson against two athletic bigs? Why is Markel continusely playing good basketball but can't get consistent minutes? No adjustments made on Redick torching Bojan in the first and second half. Poor IQ from the players, coach and GM creates a poor organization.


It isnt like its hockey where you can just change lines whenever you want, and you dont call timeouts every possesion just to sub offernese for defense outside of maybe the last 30 seconds of a game.

We had no offense going other then what bargs gave us. and while bargs is the worst defender in the entire league in all likelyhood, im not sure thomas robinson is just coming in and shutting down griffing either... and then our offense goes in the crapper on the other end eitherwise.
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Re: PG: Brook reverts back to his alter ego, Mr. Softie 

Post#104 » by Prokorov » Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:38 pm

Paradise wrote:It's a good idea but realistically speaking, Callipari isn't going to leave a program like Kentucky for this mess unless we already had someone like Simmons or Skal. That's why as much as King needs to be fired on the spot. We also need to be wary of the reality of quality replacements. The only replacement that is available of competence is Danny Ferry but he's already tarnished his rep with players and agents over the Deng comments. We could go from King to Colangelo or Hinkie.


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there is no downgrade to billy king. none. id welcome either colangelo or hinkie if the alternative was extending king.

as far as calapari, i can see him leaving kentucky for the nets if he got full control and an ownership stake. also, i dont think he would want simmons or young guys, he would want win now players, the guy is the recruiting master, he would go all in on top stars and live with the results if he fell short.
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Post#105 » by Prokorov » Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:44 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:I think cleaning house with King and Hollins, along with demoting Ras-whatever his name is just to the guy that asks Prokhorov whether he agrees with a proposed signing/trade or not, is the best move.

THEN, offer John Calipari a Stan Van Gundy type deal to have control over this team. You want some traction? Calipari is pure traction.

I don't know why people think Calipari would be a good NBA coach. It's not like he was good the last time and he's not a real Xs and Os guy.

We can't just assume that Kentucky guys would flock to him because of their previous years of playing under him. The NBA is a completely different animal than the NCAA.

Players went to Calipari to showcase their talents so they could make it to the NBA. Now that they're there, they don't need him for anything. Players are in the NBA to win and/or get money. Calipari doesn't have an upperhand in granting the players either of those goals.


i disagree that calipari was a bad coach the last time around. he was a solid coach for us. he just really didnt stick around long enough. he had us playing really well, and had we not run into the heart of jordans bulls during their title run, that team might have very easily made some noise in the playoffs.

he had that team playing to every bit of its ability, and even got jason williams playing focused ball and getting along with everyone.

i dont think kentucky guys would necessarily flock here, but i think he could get big names here. the guy is the ultimate recruiter. and its his ability to connect with people that really makes that the case.

id suggest taking a look at his books, "players first" and "refuse to lose" just great insight of his approach to people in general.
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Post#106 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:40 pm

Prokorov wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:I just read on the blog that if Lopez were traded to a good team, he'd average 25ppg with an excellent TS%.

I can understand thinking that he'd be better in a different system but those type of scoring numbers alone are the ones that only superstars produce.

The love for this guy is just insane.


he has had excellent TS% here.

and the only thing stopping brook from scoring 25 ppg is brook. i cant see him going to another team suddenly turning him into a 25ppg scorer. he could have all the shots he wants here, but he isnt aggressive. i dont see that changing just by going to anohter team. maybe he becomes a consistent 20-22 ppg guy playing with chris paul or rondo.

honestly, unless he went somewhere and played with someone like kobe would basically berate him, i dont see what changes. and event hen brook probably folds and goes in the other direction

i can see him being better on another team, helping in a different role, but i dont see the score drastically increasing for him unless he decides he needs to be aggressive or some coach finally gets it out of him


I think

1) Lopez is being told to play back to the basket in post area by the coaching staff, which is leading to him having to back down his man instead of facing up where he is a lot more comfortable and can make long strides to the rim. When he has to post up his effectiveness is killed, where as facing up his man or cutting to the rim he destroys people. I am baffled as to why the team is going away from all of the good things that led Brook towards having monster nights at the end of last season for this silliness. Brook posts up and gets double teamed hard and commits TOs. When he posts up he thinks too much. When he has to react in movement he is at his best.

2)Lack of spacing. No one can shoot and the only person that gets played honestly on the perimeter is Joe Johnson (which is still pretty crazy considering the fact that he's been firing up bricks). Brook has been getting into a lot of trouble lately when he gets swarmed...which again points to the stupidity of having him attempt post ups. Cuts to the rim, pick and rolls, pick and pops, receive the ball near the paint/foul line to face up and attack...that's how you get Brook to operate at an efficient level

3) He has been playing like a bitch as of late. Guy kills me because I know he can go out there and dominate but when things aren't going his way he gets flustered. DeAndre Jordan kicked his ass all over the goddamn court Saturday and most of that was intimidation and frustration. Clippers were playing physical all game and the only one to lay the hammer down on anyone was Thad who tossed Reddick down like a ragdoll and almost got into it with Jordan. Brook needs to get surly when opponents play like that. If I'm as big as Brook is I don't hesitate to ram my shoulder into Jordan's chest one good time or clean his clock on one of those alley oop attempts. He was playing soft as hell
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Post#107 » by Prokorov » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:48 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
1) Lopez is being told to play back to the basket in post area by the coaching staff, which is leading to him having to back down his man instead of facing up where he is a lot more comfortable and can make long strides to the rim. When he has to post up his effectiveness is killed, where as facing up his man or cutting to the rim he destroys people. I am baffled as to why the team is going away from all of the good things that led Brook towards having monster nights at the end of last season for this silliness. Brook posts up and gets double teamed hard and commits TOs. When he posts up he thinks too much. When he has to react in movement he is at his best.


we arent, in fact, we are running more pick and rolls this year then we did last season. the difference is we arent getting as many FGA from the roll man as we did. probably because we have absolutely 0 threats outside lopez, and teams have adjusted to not let him catch and do the push shot. we saw some adjustment late last year, so this isnt a huge suprise as we have even less to make teams pay for doing this.

2)Lack of spacing. No one can shoot and the only person that gets played honestly on the perimeter is Joe Johnson (which is still pretty crazy considering the fact that he's been firing up bricks). Brook has been getting into a lot of trouble lately when he gets swarmed...which again points to the stupidity of having him attempt post ups. Cuts to the rim, pick and rolls, pick and pops, receive the ball near the paint/foul line to face up and attack...that's how you get Brook to operate at an efficient level


he still needs to get the ball in the post, it allows him to turn and face up, which is the most effective part of his game.

3) He has been playing like a bitch as of late. Guy kills me because I know he can go out there and dominate but when things aren't going his way he gets flustered. DeAndre Jordan kicked his ass all over the goddamn court Saturday and most of that was intimidation and frustration. Clippers were playing physical all game and the only one to lay the hammer down on anyone was Thad who tossed Reddick down like a ragdoll and almost got into it with Jordan. Brook needs to get surly when opponents play like that. If I'm as big as Brook is I don't hesitate to ram my shoulder into Jordan's chest one good time or clean his clock on one of those alley oop attempts. He was playing soft as hell


this is nothing new. its been there his entire career. inconsistencies and sometimes disappearing when guys go at him.

but you still missed the biggest one. its his lack of aggressiveness. despite 1, 2 and 3 above there is 0 excuse for him not be averaging 18-20 shots per game. regardless of the offense or misuse, or players around him, he should be taking tons and tons of shots. he isnt. because he is willing to live with taking the occasional long jumper. and only shooting inside when it happens to be there. he isnt aggresive. and thats not because of the design or the guys around him, its because thats who he is, and thats who he always has been
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Re: PG: Brook reverts back to his alter ego, Mr. Softie 

Post#108 » by jbeachboy » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:06 pm

last year in second half was only time ive seen lopez play like a real good aggressive player and a few games this year. he has no killer instinct or leadership skills.

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