Nets 2016-2017 Free Agency Thread

[Prokorov]

lower tier free agents

Trevor Booker
Darell Arthur
Jordan Hill
Ian Mahimi
Ryan Hollins
JJ Hickson
Luis Scola
Nene
Quincy Acy (player's option) the team could use a goon
Dwight Powell (R)
Terrence Jones (R)

Ish Smith
DJ Augustine is a vet point guard they could go after
Ben Mclemore talented player
Jordan Clarkson
Marcelo Huertas
Marcus Thornton- I liked his game when he was here hated that BK (Rasumov really) traded him for Sergey Karasev and Jarret Jack bringing back Sean Livingston and keeping him would've been waaaay better but that's old news

Shelvin Mack will be a unrestricted free agent next year if Utah doesn't sign him before then.

Dj augistin is the only guy who should be considered on this list. and even then he provides at most a very marginal improvement over jack and shouldbe like plan tripleF. id love thornton back, but thats a bench move that doesnt move the needle either way.

Clarkson is NOT a good play, and i shake my head everytime i see his name. he is a tweener guard who does nothing well. his raw stats are bad. his advanced stats are bad. his on/off impact stats are bad. eye test he is bad. i dont get it. he shot decent from 3 limited time last year, other then that he has been poor pretty much all around. he would be like ellington 2.0(not play style but in impact/production).

Mclemore is an even worse player. people look at the high draft pick and age and think he can be good, but he really does nothing well. he was a guy drafted for shooting ability who doesnt shoot it well and cant get his shot off at the NBA level. 9 PER and 52 TS% for his career. guy is a scrub.... doesnt score, doesnt shoot well, isnt efficient, doesnt rebound, doesnt create offense, doesnt defend. STAY AWAY.

im all for preparing for the worst if we strike out in free agency... but giving deal to those guys is a bad idea. we are better off overpaying legit NBA starters bigger money on 1+1 deals and then going after it again in 2017 after having fielded a more successful team.

investing in young scrubs, sucking again, and rolling into 2017 Free agency now coming off 2 bad years and an offseason where no one came here cause we stunk is probably a poor plan

So none of the players are any good lmao a team isn't full of all stars you need role players.

we already have a team full of role players. we need guys who can play. throwing 8-12 million at guys who have no business starting isnt how you get back to the playoffs.

we need legit starters.

[kamaze]

Dj augistin is the only guy who should be considered on this list. and even then he provides at most a very marginal improvement over jack and shouldbe like plan tripleF. id love thornton back, but thats a bench move that doesnt move the needle either way.

Clarkson is NOT a good play, and i shake my head everytime i see his name. he is a tweener guard who does nothing well. his raw stats are bad. his advanced stats are bad. his on/off impact stats are bad. eye test he is bad. i dont get it. he shot decent from 3 limited time last year, other then that he has been poor pretty much all around. he would be like ellington 2.0(not play style but in impact/production).

Mclemore is an even worse player. people look at the high draft pick and age and think he can be good, but he really does nothing well. he was a guy drafted for shooting ability who doesnt shoot it well and cant get his shot off at the NBA level. 9 PER and 52 TS% for his career. guy is a scrub.... doesnt score, doesnt shoot well, isnt efficient, doesnt rebound, doesnt create offense, doesnt defend. STAY AWAY.

im all for preparing for the worst if we strike out in free agency... but giving deal to those guys is a bad idea. we are better off overpaying legit NBA starters bigger money on 1+1 deals and then going after it again in 2017 after having fielded a more successful team.

investing in young scrubs, sucking again, and rolling into 2017 Free agency now coming off 2 bad years and an offseason where no one came here cause we stunk is probably a poor plan

So none of the players are any good lmao a team isn't full of all stars you need role players.

we already have a team full of role players. we need guys who can play. throwing 8-12 million at guys who have no business starting isnt how you get back to the playoffs.

we need legit starters.

No we have a team full of scrubs lol

Jordan Hill, Luis Scola have no business starting now? The rest of the guys on the list wouldn't get more than a 3 year deal probably getting to the playoffs doesn't take much in the east.

[Prokorov]

No we have a team full of scrubs lol

Jordan Hill, Luis Scola have no business starting now? The rest of the guys on the list wouldn't get more than a 3 year deal probably getting to the playoffs doesn't take much in the east.

nope, scola has no business starting. in fact, he is already struggle just as a bench role player. the guy is 35 coming off a pretty bad season. he certainly wouldnt be an upgrade for us.

Hill... also not a starter. solid bench role guy, but he isnt starting unless your team is awful, like with the lakers.

these guys dont get us even a sniff of the playoffs. we need starters, not 35 year old bench players. the east is bad, but you dont go from 60 losses to 40 losses by adding backups.

[MrDollarBills]

the east is a lot better...I'd say we may not see the playoffs until 2017-2018

[kamaze]

No we have a team full of scrubs lol

Jordan Hill, Luis Scola have no business starting now? The rest of the guys on the list wouldn't get more than a 3 year deal probably getting to the playoffs doesn't take much in the east.

nope, scola has no business starting. in fact, he is already struggle just as a bench role player. the guy is 35 coming off a pretty bad season. he certainly wouldnt be an upgrade for us.

Hill... also not a starter. solid bench role guy, but he isnt starting unless your team is awful, like with the lakers.

these guys dont get us even a sniff of the playoffs. we need starters, not 35 year old bench players. the east is bad, but you dont go from 60 losses to 40 losses by adding backups.

we are terrible.

Didn't realize Scola's that old but Jordan Hill would be a good signing. A better coach than Lionel Hollins to start the season along with an improvement on the roster it can happen but I don't have my hopes up. Most likely it will be another losing season and I'm ok with that.

[Prokorov]

No we have a team full of scrubs lol

Jordan Hill, Luis Scola have no business starting now? The rest of the guys on the list wouldn't get more than a 3 year deal probably getting to the playoffs doesn't take much in the east.

nope, scola has no business starting. in fact, he is already struggle just as a bench role player. the guy is 35 coming off a pretty bad season. he certainly wouldnt be an upgrade for us.

Hill... also not a starter. solid bench role guy, but he isnt starting unless your team is awful, like with the lakers.

these guys dont get us even a sniff of the playoffs. we need starters, not 35 year old bench players. the east is bad, but you dont go from 60 losses to 40 losses by adding backups.

we are terrible.

Didn't realize Scola's that old but Jordan Hill would be a good signing. A better coach than Lionel Hollins to start the season along with an improvement on the roster it can happen but I don't have my hopes up. Most likely it will be another losing season and I'm ok with that.

um... ive been driving the we are terrible train since long before the season started. in fact ive been saying that this entire thread. so spare me the gifs and memes.

i find it even more odd that you think we are terrible, but think over the hill washed up 1 way bench player like scola is going to get us to the playoffs in the east. you can back peddle and say "most likely it will be another losing season" but above you said those guys can probably get us to the playoffs in a weak east.

those aquisitions make no sense playoffs or not. if you think we will suck, then throwing time and older veteran plays doesnt make sense. if you think we could be ok, then you certainly dont want to be starting old washed up 1 way players. jordan hills is younger, but he isnt a long term piece and he isnt a starting calibur player.

im really not sure why we would have interest in wasting cap money on either, as neither helps us short or long term

[kamaze]

nope, scola has no business starting. in fact, he is already struggle just as a bench role player. the guy is 35 coming off a pretty bad season. he certainly wouldnt be an upgrade for us.

Hill... also not a starter. solid bench role guy, but he isnt starting unless your team is awful, like with the lakers.

these guys dont get us even a sniff of the playoffs. we need starters, not 35 year old bench players. the east is bad, but you dont go from 60 losses to 40 losses by adding backups.

we are terrible.

Didn't realize Scola's that old but Jordan Hill would be a good signing. A better coach than Lionel Hollins to start the season along with an improvement on the roster it can happen but I don't have my hopes up. Most likely it will be another losing season and I'm ok with that.

um... ive been driving the we are terrible train since long before the season started. in fact ive been saying that this entire thread. so spare me the gifs and memes.

i find it even more odd that you think we are terrible, but think over the hill washed up 1 way bench player like scola is going to get us to the playoffs in the east. you can back peddle and say "most likely it will be another losing season" but above you said those guys can probably get us to the playoffs in a weak east.

those aquisitions make no sense playoffs or not. if you think we will suck, then throwing time and older veteran plays doesnt make sense. if you think we could be ok, then you certainly dont want to be starting old washed up 1 way players. jordan hills is younger, but he isnt a long term piece and he isnt a starting calibur player.

im really not sure why we would have interest in wasting cap money on either, as neither helps us short or long term

Because you brought up the Lakers who in my opinion are better than us. They have young players and lottery picks coming to them
we're stuck in no man's land.

Not just those 2 players alone depending on how the coach wants to play mix and match between
Trevor Booker
Darell Arthur
Jordan Hill
Ian Mahimi
Ryan Hollins
JJ Hickson
Luis Scola
Nene
Quincy Acy (player's option) the team could use a goon
Dwight Powell (R)
Terrence Jones (R)

Ish Smith
DJ Augustine is a vet point guard they could go after
Ben Mclemore talented player
Jordan Clarkson
Marcelo Huertas
Marcus Thornton
bring back Thomas Robinson and Sloan for 3rd string, hire a good coach and we have a chance. Making the playoffs can happen I'm trying to be optimistic. These players were posted and not the top free agents because I don't think we realistically have a chance at getting them but we can get these guys. They have to fill the roster with someone.
Shelvin Mack will be a unrestricted free agent next year if Utah doesn't sign him before then.

[Prokorov]

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Because you brought up the Lakers who in my opinion are better than us. They have young players and lottery picks coming to them
we're stuck in no man's land.

man you are all over the map. the only time i even mentioned the lakers was to say that was the only team bad enough for Hill to start on. and they were certainly worse then us the past few seasons. and even if they were, you cant call them anything but horrible. as far as their future outlook, sure they are in the same spot as us only a better destination and more picks... so yea they are in a better spot. not sure how that makes Hill or Scola anything but bench players though

Not just those 2 players alone depending on how the coach wants to play mix and match between
Trevor Booker
Darell Arthur
Jordan Hill
Ian Mahimi
Ryan Hollins
JJ Hickson
Luis Scola
Nene
Quincy Acy (player's option) the team could use a goon
Dwight Powell (R)
Terrence Jones (R)

Ish Smith
DJ Augustine is a vet point guard they could go after
Ben Mclemore talented player
Jordan Clarkson
Marcelo Huertas
Marcus Thornton
bring back Thomas Robinson and Sloan for 3rd string, hire a good coach and we have a chance. Making the playoffs can happen I'm trying to be optimistic. These players were posted and not the top free agents because I don't think we realistically have a chance at getting them but we can get these guys. They have to fill the roster with someone.
Shelvin Mack will be a unrestricted free agent next year if Utah doesn't sign him before then.

you could pick 6 players from that group and we dont make the playoffs. terrance jones and augustin are the only legit starting players on that list. you could make a case for nene (alwyas hurt and plasy the same position as thad anyhow) and clarkson(who is statistically among the worst in the league at his position) too i guess.

your list is a giant list of bench players. the reason we were awful this year is because we started bench players instead of legit nba starters. your solution to that is to get new bench players and have them start?

PG/Wing is our weakest spot, and there is absolutely nothing in those spots on your list. further, shooting, permiter defense, and offensive efficiency are weaknesses, few guys on the list excel at any of those areas, and the ones who do like thornton are bench role guys.

Augistin/Clarkson/booker/Thad/Lopez is a team that loses 55+ games.

we need legit NBA starters. we dont need superstars, but we need guys who actually are capable nba starters.

[jbeachboy]

we need more 2 way players not flawed players like bogs, ellington, markel brown, etc, trob,

[jbeachboy]

we need more 2 way players not flawed players like bogs, ellington, markel brown, etc, trob,

[kamaze]

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Because you brought up the Lakers who in my opinion are better than us. They have young players and lottery picks coming to them
we're stuck in no man's land.

man you are all over the map. the only time i even mentioned the lakers was to say that was the only team bad enough for Hill to start on. and they were certainly worse then us the past few seasons. and even if they were, you cant call them anything but horrible. as far as their future outlook, sure they are in the same spot as us only a better destination and more picks... so yea they are in a better spot. not sure how that makes Hill or Scola anything but bench players though

Not just those 2 players alone depending on how the coach wants to play mix and match between
Trevor Booker
Darell Arthur
Jordan Hill
Ian Mahimi
Ryan Hollins
JJ Hickson
Luis Scola
Nene
Quincy Acy (player's option) the team could use a goon
Dwight Powell (R)
Terrence Jones (R)

Ish Smith
DJ Augustine is a vet point guard they could go after
Ben Mclemore talented player
Jordan Clarkson
Marcelo Huertas
Marcus Thornton
bring back Thomas Robinson and Sloan for 3rd string, hire a good coach and we have a chance. Making the playoffs can happen I'm trying to be optimistic. These players were posted and not the top free agents because I don't think we realistically have a chance at getting them but we can get these guys. They have to fill the roster with someone.
Shelvin Mack will be a unrestricted free agent next year if Utah doesn't sign him before then.

you could pick 6 players from that group and we dont make the playoffs. terrance jones and augustin are the only legit starting players on that list. you could make a case for nene (alwyas hurt and plasy the same position as thad anyhow) and clarkson(who is statistically among the worst in the league at his position) too i guess.

your list is a giant list of bench players. the reason we were awful this year is because we started bench players instead of legit nba starters. your solution to that is to get new bench players and have them start?

PG/Wing is our weakest spot, and there is absolutely nothing in those spots on your list. further, shooting, permiter defense, and offensive efficiency are weaknesses, few guys on the list excel at any of those areas, and the ones who do like thornton are bench role guys.

Augistin/Clarkson/booker/Thad/Lopez is a team that loses 55+ games.

we need legit NBA starters. we dont need superstars, but we need guys who actually are capable nba starters.

My head is spinning over here.

You never know that's why they play the games!...we'll see. Add a point guard, Clarkson, Darrell Arthur, Ryan Hollins draft someone with good coaching they might have a shot.

Last year we had a dunce cap gm 2 years from now the team will still be impacted by his incompetence. Not 1 player he signed stepped up we were sold false hope the team had/has unrealistic expectations. We ended up waiving 2 players this year after waiving you know last summer and being one of the worst teams in the league. Thomas Robinson and Sloan are the only ones worth a damn and they're not even under contract next year wed have to overpay.

It's a realistic list top free agents aren't coming here.
So what the players available don't meet your criteria they can make due with what they have. Make lemonade out of lemons.

What do you expect blame the guys that put us in this situation. There was no vision.

[Prokorov]

My head is spinning over here.

You never know that's why they play the games!...we'll see. Add a point guard, Clarkson, Darrell Arthur, Ryan Hollins draft someone with good coaching they might have a shot.

Actually, you do know. we just saw it. this season is what you get when you plug bench players into starting roles. and its not just here. lakers, suns, sixers. you start bench players and your going to suck. there is a reason those guys are bench players. sure its great to have aurthor or a ryan hollins when they are your 7th man. if they are starting, you arent winning much, and you are winning less when they are starting and you dont have a couple all-stars to off set it.

Last year we had a dunce cap gm 2 years from now the team will still be impacted by his incompetence. Not 1 player he signed stepped up we were sold false hope the team had/has unrealistic expectations. We ended up waiving 2 players this year after waiving you know last summer and being one of the worst teams in the league. Thomas Robinson and Sloan are the only ones worth a damn and they're not even under contract next year wed have to overpay.

Who was sold false hope? they told us day 1 this was going to be a bridge year. of course not one of the players he signed stepped up! because, like ive been saying, you cant start bench players and expect them to have success. sloan and robinson arent good players either. those guys are a dime a dozen and every team in the league has a few guys like that.

It's a realistic list top free agents aren't coming here.
So what the players available don't meet your criteria they can make due with what they have. Make lemonade out of lemons.

thats not making leomande out of lemons, its make lemon juice out of lemons and then drikning it and having a sour taste in your mouth all year. top free agents not coming here isnt a reason to throw money at bench players. you are better off overpaying mediocure starters on a 1+1 contract.

What do you expect blame the guys that put us in this situation. There was no vision.

im not blaming anyone. i accepted early on that this team was going to be bad. it was the right move to be bad this season. take abullet now to free up the cap space to correct the situation. which is what we did. and it was a smart move.

[Net Sentence]

If Marks is smart he will go after Terrence Jones from Houston.

Houston has mismanaged him terribly this season by having him play more out on the perimeter. In 2013-14 he took 77.1% of his shots 10 feet and in and had a TS% of 57.7%. In 2014-15 he took 80.6% of his shots from 10 feet and in and had a 56.7% TS%. This year he is only taking 71.5% of his shots from 10 feet and in and has taken twice as many 3s then he had in the previous 2 seasons which has caused him to shoot 51.9% TS%. Playing further away from the rim has shaved a full offensive rebound off of his per 36.

He is only 24 and can play both PF and C. He is a matchup nightmare for most bigs out on the perimeter and can run the floor with the best of them. He has a quick first step as you can see in his highlight reel linked below. Pairing him with McCullough off the bench would make for some interesting highlights in the open court. I think he is a extremely undervalued free agent and we need to pounce. He is the right fit with Lopez or Thad.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cfhzH2geZM[/youtube]

[kamaze]

My head is spinning over here.

You never know that's why they play the games!...we'll see. Add a point guard, Clarkson, Darrell Arthur, Ryan Hollins draft someone with good coaching they might have a shot.

Actually, you do know. we just saw it. this season is what you get when you plug bench players into starting roles. and its not just here. lakers, suns, sixers. you start bench players and your going to suck. there is a reason those guys are bench players. sure its great to have aurthor or a ryan hollins when they are your 7th man. if they are starting, you arent winning much, and you are winning less when they are starting and you dont have a couple all-stars to off set it.

Last year we had a dunce cap gm 2 years from now the team will still be impacted by his incompetence. Not 1 player he signed stepped up we were sold false hope the team had/has unrealistic expectations. We ended up waiving 2 players this year after waiving you know last summer and being one of the worst teams in the league. Thomas Robinson and Sloan are the only ones worth a damn and they're not even under contract next year wed have to overpay.

Who was sold false hope? they told us day 1 this was going to be a bridge year. of course not one of the players he signed stepped up! because, like ive been saying, you cant start bench players and expect them to have success. sloan and robinson arent good players either. those guys are a dime a dozen and every team in the league has a few guys like that.

It's a realistic list top free agents aren't coming here.
So what the players available don't meet your criteria they can make due with what they have. Make lemonade out of lemons.

thats not making leomande out of lemons, its make lemon juice out of lemons and then drikning it and having a sour taste in your mouth all year. top free agents not coming here isnt a reason to throw money at bench players. you are better off overpaying mediocure starters on a 1+1 contract.

What do you expect blame the guys that put us in this situation. There was no vision.

im not blaming anyone. i accepted early on that this team was going to be bad. it was the right move to be bad this season. take abullet now to free up the cap space to correct the situation. which is what we did. and it was a smart move.

New players new season. Arthur and Hollins would be coming off the bench they're not better than Brook and Thad. I'd like to trade Brook that would change who we go after in free agency both are bench players.

[Prokorov]

My head is spinning over here.

You never know that's why they play the games!...we'll see. Add a point guard, Clarkson, Darrell Arthur, Ryan Hollins draft someone with good coaching they might have a shot.

Actually, you do know. we just saw it. this season is what you get when you plug bench players into starting roles. and its not just here. lakers, suns, sixers. you start bench players and your going to suck. there is a reason those guys are bench players. sure its great to have aurthor or a ryan hollins when they are your 7th man. if they are starting, you arent winning much, and you are winning less when they are starting and you dont have a couple all-stars to off set it.

Last year we had a dunce cap gm 2 years from now the team will still be impacted by his incompetence. Not 1 player he signed stepped up we were sold false hope the team had/has unrealistic expectations. We ended up waiving 2 players this year after waiving you know last summer and being one of the worst teams in the league. Thomas Robinson and Sloan are the only ones worth a damn and they're not even under contract next year wed have to overpay.

Who was sold false hope? they told us day 1 this was going to be a bridge year. of course not one of the players he signed stepped up! because, like ive been saying, you cant start bench players and expect them to have success. sloan and robinson arent good players either. those guys are a dime a dozen and every team in the league has a few guys like that.

It's a realistic list top free agents aren't coming here.
So what the players available don't meet your criteria they can make due with what they have. Make lemonade out of lemons.

thats not making leomande out of lemons, its make lemon juice out of lemons and then drikning it and having a sour taste in your mouth all year. top free agents not coming here isnt a reason to throw money at bench players. you are better off overpaying mediocure starters on a 1+1 contract.

What do you expect blame the guys that put us in this situation. There was no vision.

im not blaming anyone. i accepted early on that this team was going to be bad. it was the right move to be bad this season. take abullet now to free up the cap space to correct the situation. which is what we did. and it was a smart move.

New players new season. Arthur and Hollins would be coming off the bench they're not better than Brook and Thad. I'd like to trade Brook that would change who we go after in free agency both are bench players.

and how are 2 bench backup bigmen going to help us make the playoffs like you said earlier?

[jbeachboy]

ryan hollins stinks and arthur is just a midrange jump shooter.

[kamaze]

ryan hollins stinks and arthur is just a midrange jump shooter.

Yeah they're bench players.