The Nets sign Tyler Johnson to a $50mil offer sheet (MIA matches, p.21)
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You guys don't know it yet but you got a steal in Yogi Ferrell. He will be much better than that bum Tyler Johnson.
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Wade kills us again
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Rich Rane wrote:SF_Warriors wrote:Interesting. The heat already have richardson and dragic penciled in as starters. Johnson would mainly be a 20-25 min bench player
If the heat are paying 18 & 19 mill for the last two years they are making a huge mistake it seems...
Gonna be a bit difficult if they want to trade him to say the least.
They'll probably try to trade Dragic within the next couple seasons.
I doubt they have any intentions of trading Tyler Johnson, they matched him to keep him.

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vincecarter4pres wrote:Rich Rane wrote:SF_Warriors wrote:Interesting. The heat already have richardson and dragic penciled in as starters. Johnson would mainly be a 20-25 min bench player
If the heat are paying 18 & 19 mill for the last two years they are making a huge mistake it seems...
Gonna be a bit difficult if they want to trade him to say the least.
They'll probably try to trade Dragic within the next couple seasons.
I doubt they have any intentions of trading Tyler Johnson, they matched him to keep him.
Agreed, but what happens now and what they want to do with him two seasons from now may be a different story.
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They may have just figured they'll be able to buy him out in the new CBA if it's that bad.
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Here's a take from one of the more connected guys in Miami sports media. Bolded the part of the most interest, because from the outside looking in this is a really bizarre move by Riley. Less cap flexibility and no Wade is a strange combination. Hard to see what the upside is. I personally think he has way overrated himself as a salesman and underrated how big of an influence DWade was in closing Lebron and Bosh.
Full link - http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/2016/07/sunday-noon-details-on-the-two-veterans-added-by-the-heat-and-where-the-roster-stands.html
Overall thoughts: The Heat did a decent job rebounding from the Wade setback to assemble serviceable depth, though all of the imported veterans (aside from Reid) are either journeymen OR at least somewhat one-dimensional.
We like the Babbitt pickup; Miami badly needed another skilled shooting big, and Babbitt -- good value at the minimum -- can play either forward position. Reid has upside, and Williams is a talent, though he hasn't lived up to being a second overall draft pick.
But ask yourself this: Would you rather have Wade or the players used to fill his cap space -- Haslem (who could have returned anyway with the $2.9 million room exception that Miami hasn't used) - plus Williams, Ellington, Reid, James Johnson and Tyler Johnson (who could have returned even if Wade hadn't)?
I'd rather have Wade than Williams, Ellington, Reid and James Johnson, even if it meant giving Wade a third year on his contract.
And this was also curious: Why was the Heat comfortable guaranteeing $18 million for Tyler Johnson for 2018-19 (let alone $19 million for a fourth year) when it wouldn't offer Wade a third year at any amount?
Age is the obvious answer, but it's still somewhat puzzling, especially because of how well Wade played this season and even more so considering Johnson's deal leaves the Heat with much less flexibility to sign a max player either of the next two years, though trades still could clear out enough space to achieve that. (And there would be plenty of room for a max contract next summer if Chris Bosh has another setback and cannot play at all next season. Bosh is intending to play.)
Basically, Pat Riley eschewed the likelihood of having a good team for the next three years (with the potential for more, depending on health, which is a big IF) and instead gambled that he will not only be able to trade salary to sign a max player in coming years (Blake Griffin? Russell Westbrook?) but also that he will be able to lure such a "whale."
Never sell Riley short. Nevertheless, this is an enormous gamble and one he could regret if he cannot snag any of the handful of elite players that will become available in the next two summers.
Full link - http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/2016/07/sunday-noon-details-on-the-two-veterans-added-by-the-heat-and-where-the-roster-stands.html
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Amnesty?
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Rich Rane wrote:vincecarter4pres wrote:Rich Rane wrote:
Gonna be a bit difficult if they want to trade him to say the least.
They'll probably try to trade Dragic within the next couple seasons.
I doubt they have any intentions of trading Tyler Johnson, they matched him to keep him.
Agreed, but what happens now and what they want to do with him two seasons from now may be a different story.
This is very true. But as some have mentioned, if he's that bad there will likely be another amnesty in the new CBA to bail Riley out.

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Born_Ready wrote:More reason for the league to laugh at this organization that can't catch a break. Ever.
Nobody is laughing at you guys. Free agency is hit or miss, man. It happens to every organization.
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Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:Born_Ready wrote:More reason for the league to laugh at this organization that can't catch a break. Ever.
Nobody is laughing at you guys. Free agency is hit or miss, man. It happens to every organization.
I can think of at least one group of fans that are popping bottles right now lol.
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NyCeEvO wrote:Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:Born_Ready wrote:More reason for the league to laugh at this organization that can't catch a break. Ever.
Nobody is laughing at you guys. Free agency is hit or miss, man. It happens to every organization.
I can think of at least one group of fans that are popping bottles right now lol.
We love TJ but we aren't happy about the poison pill contract. Half of us think he won't live up to the contract, the other half are making bets he will.
It was a tough situation. TJ would be a Net right now if Wade hadn't got all uppity and offended at Riley's $40 mil for 2 years offer.
But Wade felt offended, he's off to Chicago, and because of that TJ stays in Miami.
It was a very unlikely scenario. Your FO can't be blamed for not knowing that Wade would leave Miami. Wade's going to be 35 years old in six months and I guess he feels he wanted a giant Kobe contract to ride off into the sunset.... but Riley won't do that because it means the Heat would suck for a long time.
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Were talking about the Celtics who are popping bottles and celebrating
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ChokeFasncists wrote:Amnesty?
yep
thats why the heat matched
a lock out is coming more than likely within 2 years.
when the smoke clears, reckless owners will get a pass capwise.
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ChokeFasncists wrote:Amnesty?
The HEAT used the amnesty on Mike Miller a few years back, unless there is another amnesty that I am not aware of. If they did have it, they would have been better off using it on Bosh if he was insistent on playing and they couldn't medically retire him. Moot point, since as I said, they used it already. My guess is Riley knows something we don't. Could be one of 3 things.
1) He will try to trade Goran Dragic for expiring contracts.
2) He knows Chris Bosh is done and he knows that contract will come off the books.
3) Both
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MorbidHEAT wrote:ChokeFasncists wrote:Amnesty?
The HEAT used the amnesty on Mike Miller a few years back, unless there is another amnesty that I am not aware of.
There is talk that there might be another amnesty soon cuz of this cap raise.
If they did have it, they would have been better off using it on Bosh if he was insistent on playing and they couldn't medically retire him. Moot point, since as I said, they used it already. My guess is Riley knows something we don't. Could be one of 3 things.
1) He will try to trade Goran Dragic for expiring contracts.
2) He knows Chris Bosh is done and he knows that contract will come off the books.
3) Both
Or maybe he's just real high on TJ?
Thanks for the honesty.MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
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I'll bet a good chunk of change that there will be an amnesty provision in the new CBA and that this played a major roll in both Portland and Miami deciding to match.
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It's done with. Let's hope for both TJ and Crabbe to bust.
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We can discuss the implications of Miami matching along with other items in the Offseason thread.