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Top 10 Lineups 2017 Who's #6?

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Top 10 Lineups 2017 Who's #6? 

Post#1 » by shakendfries » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:51 pm

With the regular season less than a month away, I think it's an excellent time to get the discussion going for the Nets Board's Top 10 Lineups 2017 Rankings!

It's time to evaluate the best lineups that teams will be trotting out this upcoming season

Credit to NyCeEvO - this post is inspired by his top 25 players series

For the newbies and frequent visitors on our forum, here are the rules:
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One of the reasons for doing this is to kill time during the dead of summer when there's nothing else to do and we're waiting for the next season. I will post a list of lineups and out of that list of lineups you vote for one. You also need to nominate a lineup not listed in the current voting pool but a lineup you'd like to see available to be voted for in the next round.

For instance, let's say it's the first round and the available candidates to vote for are lineups from CLE, GS, TOR, SA, and BOS. I decide to vote for CLE this round but I believe POR has the next best lineup. Since POR is not available to be voted for, I nominate them to be included in the next round of available candidates. The nominee with the highest number of votes will be included as a candidate to vote for in round 2.

In the situation of a tiebreaker, a 24hr period will be given for people to change their votes. You can only change your vote to one of the players who shares the tiebreak.

If there's still a tie after 24hrs, I break the tie.

Simple, right?


In the past we've had non-Nets board members who regularly visit our forum participate. Unless you regularly participate on our boards (e.g. Dirk Nowitzki), here are the voting rules for non-Nets board posters.

Voting rules for non-Nets board posters:

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If you are not a regular on the Nets board or you don't post here often you need to vote for 3 rounds in a row in order for your votes to count.

I welcome outsiders to vote, but we don't want outsiders intentionally screwing up our rankings. No hard feelings but this is the most effective method I can use to make sure non-regular posters aren't sabotaging our system.


Let's go! 8-)

Who's #5?


***Voting Deadline: Friday Midnight***

Current Rankings
1) Golden State - Curry, Thompson, Durant, Igoudolla, Green
2) Cleveland - Irving, Smith, James, Love, Thompson
3) San Antonio - Parker, Green, Kawhi, Aldridge, Gasol
4) Los Angeles - Paul, Reddick, Mbah a Moute, Griffin, Jordan
5) Toronto - Lowry, DeRozan, Caroll, Patterson, Valencunas

Timberwolves: Rubio, LaVine, Wiggins, Dieng, Karl Anthony Towns
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Portland: Lillard, McCollum, Crabbe, Harkless, Plumlee
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Memphis: Conley, Allen, Parsons, Green, Gasol
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Boston: Thomas, Bradley, Crowder, Johnson, Horford
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Indiana: Teague, Ellis, George, Young, Turner
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BOS- DeRoma, ChokeFasncists
IND



Nominees: Thunder (1), Pistons (1), Hawks (1)
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Re: Top 10 Lineups 2017 Who's #6? 

Post#2 » by shakendfries » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:16 pm

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Last year: 96.6 percent picked Cleveland to win the East. Order after the Cavs was Chicago, Atlanta, Miami, Washington, Toronto and Milwaukee.
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Last year: 51.7 percent picked Golden State to win the West. Order after the Warriors was San Antonio, Oklahoma City, L.A. Clippers, Houston and Memphis.


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Re: Top 10 Lineups 2017 Who's #6? 

Post#3 » by ChokeFasncists » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:34 am

Memphis: Conley, Ennis, Williams, Green, Gasol

Doesn't look quite right
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Re: Top 10 Lineups 2017 Who's #6? 

Post#4 » by Prokorov » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:57 pm

vote: none
Nominate: OKC

i still dont get why minnesota is on the list already. i get they have some great young talent and added a great coach. but they were a 29 win team last year. are they 25-30 wins better to where they are to 5ish team in the NBA?

to me thats not warranted.
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Post#5 » by ChokeFasncists » Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:12 pm

Prokorov wrote:vote: none
Nominate: OKC

i still dont get why minnesota is on the list already. i get they have some great young talent and added a great coach. but they were a 29 win team last year. are they 25-30 wins better to where they are to 5ish team in the NBA?

to me thats not warranted.

Wait, you're saying this is a prediction of next season's record? That's certainly not how I voted.

OTOH, I do think Minny has more potential than OKC. They'll have some growing pain in the meantime tho.

Towns the No. 1 player NBA GMs would build team around
http://fansided.com/2016/10/18/nba-gms-karl-anthony-towns-player-want/

Dunn could be like Dipo pretty soon. LaVine and Wiggins have some mad potential. I like Dieng's game. Shabazz off the bench is terrific. I can see Thibs having improved.

I don't think they're no.5 anyways. It was the Raptors, then there are other teams ahead.
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Re: Top 10 Lineups 2017 Who's #6? 

Post#6 » by shakendfries » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:53 pm

ChokeFasncists wrote:
Prokorov wrote:vote: none
Nominate: OKC

i still dont get why minnesota is on the list already. i get they have some great young talent and added a great coach. but they were a 29 win team last year. are they 25-30 wins better to where they are to 5ish team in the NBA?

to me thats not warranted.

Wait, you're saying this is a prediction of next season's record? That's certainly not how I voted.

OTOH, I do think Minny has more potential than OKC. They'll have some growing pain in the meantime tho.

Towns the No. 1 player NBA GMs would build team around
http://fansided.com/2016/10/18/nba-gms-karl-anthony-towns-player-want/

Dunn could be like Dipo pretty soon. LaVine and Wiggins have some mad potential. I like Dieng's game. Shabazz off the bench is terrific. I can see Thibs having improved.

I don't think they're no.5 anyways. It was the Raptors, then there are other teams ahead.


If I titled this series Top 10 Teams 2017, the list would be heavily favored for those teams that were successful last season. However, by ranking the top 10 lineups I hope to inspire people to take into account potential in addition to continuity. The continuity of Minnesota shows a team that already demonstrated the potential to perform at an high level early last season.

The beauty of what’s happening in Minnesota, though, is that it’s not just Towns’ prowess that’s turned them into a respectable offensive team. He’s also got weapons around him with plenty of potency – and I’m not just talking about Andre Miller. Wiggins has quietly improved his 3-point shot, hitting 37.5 percent of his attempts this year after only 31.0 percent last year. Nemanja Bjelica (41.7 percent) and LaVine (41.4 percent) have been even better from deep. Overnight, the Wolves have gone from a laughingstock offensively to an inside-out juggernaut with a phenomenal big man anchoring an horde of outside shooters. Minny has gone from 25th in the league in offensive efficiency to 11th.

And then you have the defense, which is also improved significantly, jumping 10 spots from 30th to 20th in the league. We always focus on offensive improvement with young teams – whose court vision is improving, whose jumper is falling and so on – but Minnesota’s growth on the other end has been just as intriguing.

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Yeah, that’s right – per NBA.com/stats, the Minnesota freaking Timberwolves currently have the best lineup in the league, by fewest points allowed per 100 possessions. Everyone laughed at this Wolves team as it was coming together. It was a goofy idea to team up Kevin Garnett and Tayshaun Prince, two guys who almost qualify for Social Security, with the young Towns/Wiggins nucleus. But, with the obvious small sample caveat that’s attached to every November observation about the NBA, you can’t deny that so far it’s working. This lineup makes sense – it’s got length, quickness and KG’s on-court leadership to help guide the ship.


Small sample size? Absolutely. Performance through the first 15 games of an NBA season proves very little. Any statistic that can show the Nets were remotely decent at anything last year is probably off, with the exception of the effectiveness of Lopez + Thad, and the defensive potential of RHJ.

The reason certain posters are up in arms about the Thad trade is because of his proven continuity with Lopez in spite of this not ultimately manifesting in the Nets record. Whether or not Booker should expected to perform comparably is not the point I am trying to make. If you can give any credit to the continuity or performance of a 21-61 team, then it's not a stretch to give credit to the performance of Minnesota.

If your main gripe is over OKC not being nominated yet, I can understand only to a certain extent. Regardless of your expectations, removing a top 5 NBA player from a roster will negatively impact a team's performance. For a team that finished 3rd in the Western conference, and only two games better than the Blake Griffin-less Clippers, it's completely reasonable to expect them to be a step behind the GSW, SAS, LAC. Furthermore, POR has a strong advantage over OKC in terms of continuity. Given that the Thunder weren't a playoff team when Durant was injured, counting OKC among the third tier of playoff teams is just as fair as predicting MIN to make a leap into this tier.

Personally, I think Minnesota's roster lacks the veteran presence necessary to be anything than a potential 8th seed, and if any team is posed to jump into the playoff picture in the Western Conference, it's probably Utah who just added George Hill, Boris Diaw, and Joe Johnson, but the people who participated in this thread prior felt it appropriate to nominate Minnesota. I'm not going to stand in their way
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Post#7 » by DeRoma » Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:50 pm

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Post#8 » by ChokeFasncists » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:00 am

ChokeFasncists wrote:
Memphis: Conley, Ennis, Williams, Green, Gasol

Doesn't look quite right

Williams hasn't even made the roster yet. I think TA and Parsons are gonna be starters?
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Top 10 Lineups 2017 Who's #6? 

Post#9 » by shakendfries » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:17 am

ChokeFasncists wrote:
ChokeFasncists wrote:
Memphis: Conley, Ennis, Williams, Green, Gasol

Doesn't look quite right

Williams hasn't even made the roster yet. I think TA and Parsons are gonna be starters?


Had nothing to do with it, I had to google their depth chart

My bad


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Post#10 » by ChokeFasncists » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:46 pm

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MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
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