Absolute Best Case Scenario

[Paradise]

He's going to get 14 ppg, 6 assists, 4 turnovers, 1 steal on 40% shooting and 30% from 3 with terrible efficiency and give up way more vs starting PG's and SG's on defense.

So was Lin just too injured to judge? He played 32 games at only 24 mpg. 13.6 points 5 assists.

Nets sucked as predicted.

Uniformed trolling?

So far the Nets are on pace to beat their Vegas over/under 19.5 needing to win 1 of the next 4. Currently they are playing good team hustle basketball and picking up wins, albeit against a few tanking and dog teams. However wins such as against Memphis and Atlanta who are deep inthe PO are good looks on what the team could do.

If Lin didnt get injured its pretty damn clear the Nets woulda won more games. Even his 24 mpg 13.6 pts 5 assists over say 70ish games woulda been HUGE and likely add another 10 or so wins as the team was playing literally half the season without a single competent PG after both Lin and Vazquez went down. Nets literally went on a 2-40 stretch during Lin's injury stretch.

Did the Nets suck balls? Well yea, i'd love to see how BOS would do if they lost both IT and Rozier for half the season. Stevens is a great coach, the squad has some decent wings, im sure he'd have u guys scrapping it out for the 8th seed, so basically about a 15 win difference. Lin is no IT, but considering in the 32 games he's played so far, the team has done ALOT better record and efficiency wise, its pretty damn evident he's an impact player and saying he'd add another 10 wins if he were healthy isnt much of a stretch.

Oh yea and since u mentioned PER36, Lin would be rocking 20 pts, 8 asts, 4 rbs, 1.5 stls, .6 blks a game. Since 36 mins is a bit much if he were playing say 32 he'd proly be at 18 pts, 7 asts, 3.5 rbs, 1.3 stls, .5 blcks a game. Basically making your predictions looks pretty damn stupid. Oh yea and he's putting up those stats while prolly being around 75% of his normal self due to his rather major and unfortunate injuries.

So yea, good job predicting the Nets to suck record wise. Although the team exceeded expectations even after their PG corps got ravaged by injuries.

Your prediction on Lin's raw stats were pretty close, but his impact and PER36 otoh were way off. Defensively he's been fine, and despite his current shooting slump, posting way better numbers than what you predicted.

Enjoy taunting Nets fans while u can. These arent the same Billy King Nets that Ainge bent over and raped like a prison virgin. The Nets have a nice culture and system in place for the future and if they can get some more talent they can easily be in the 30-40 win zone. Ya'll better hope you guys finally draft the next Lebron otherwise once IT's contract is up you're gonna hve to pay him 30+ mil to keep him, and Horford is already breaking down before your eyes. Shoulda traded your chips in this year when you had the chance with the Cavs and GSW looking beatable due to their stars being dinged up.

But yea, go enjoy your high BRK picks, hoarding high picks is the way to go to win championships!

Hey man all I did was make a reasonable prediction and got absolutely flamed by yall.
Was nothing 'clueless' or hater based about it all.

The fact is that Jeremy Lin is not a starting caliber PG in the NBA and you may have scraped a few more wins with him but his terrible D may have cost you a few wins. Either way the Nets sucked as predicted.

I do hope you guys get some luck with some of your picks and hopefully you get something for Lopez. Levert was a great pick and Marks should get you guys out of the gutter within a few years so good luck to you.

I guess Cs fans don't want to post throughout the postseason. No, good luck to you. You'll need it.




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[Rainyy]

The fact is that Jeremy Lin is not a starting caliber PG in the NBA and you may have scraped a few more wins with him but his terrible D may have cost you a few wins. Either way the Nets sucked as predicted.

They would have scraped way more than a "few wins." Your box score analysis of the situation is highly dishonest, ignorant, and frankly, intellectually bankrupt.

This was not simply about Jeremy Lin's value as a player in vacuum (which is considerably higher than you make it out to be), but the difference between him and his replacement, and the exponentially negative effect not having a point guard has on a basketball team.

I would hope any serious basketball fan would understand that a team's performance level if more than the sum of its part (where that value is higher or lower). Least of all a Celtics fan should understand this, as you have a coach and system, which are able to raise the level of individual play.

If a player like Lin goes down on a majority of NBA teams, it probably doesn't have a massive effect on their success. But when Lin went down, we also lost our backup PG, and had no other PG on our roster. For the first half of the season our primary point guard was Sean Kilpatrick, a replacement level chucking SG with absolutely no ball-handling skills. He had no vision; could not execute a simple pass; and utterly failed to run the offense. Lin and Vasquez's injuries also forced a protracted "experimental period." Instead of Atkinson focusing on consistency in his rotations or adjusting his system, the lack of our point guard forced him to spend the first 4 months playing guys out of position and scrambling to cover the 1.

This undoubtedly hurt our team chemistry and made the rotations confusing and counterproductive, all while doing nothing to fix the problem that we had no point guard. The level of play of everyone was definitely lowered. You must also keep in mind that our best scorer is a center so the loss of a point guard stung even more. Despite missing over half the season and only playing ~23 minutes per game, Jeremy Lin has nearly twice as many assists to Lopez than anyone else on the roster.

Since Jeremy Lin has been back we are a different team. It shows because we are 10-12 since the All-Star game and I think have a 30% chance of pushing to .500 since margin. We are simply a different team when he plays; not because he is some elite player, he's a solid starter, but because having a point guard to run the system raises the play of everyone.

Despite Lin missing so much time and Vasquez missing the season, the Nets have still won 19 games. I'll add that we have been a little unlucky too. We have a far better net rating than the Lakers, but 3 less wins. Record wise, you wouldn't expect us to be the worst team if you ran this simulation 1,000 times.

All things considered, the Vegas o/u of 19.5 wins was really, really embarrassingly bad. Vegas was not predicting an injury to Jeremy Lin so it undersold us. I am not going to call you or Vegas' predictions "reasonable" when they were met due to an injury neither of you were predicting. This Nets team when healthy is closer to a 30 win team than a 19-win team.