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2017 Nets Build-A-Team Western Conference Playoff Voting Thread: VOTING ENDS SUNDAY

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Which Teams Would Win?

DarkXaero vs Jersey Generals: DarkXaero Wins
2
11%
DarkXaero vs Jersey Generals: Jersey Generals Wins
6
33%
3pt_chucker vs CalamityX12: 3pt_chucker Wins
6
33%
3pt_chucker vs CalamityX12: CalamityX12 Wins
4
22%
 
Total votes: 18

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2017 Nets Build-A-Team Western Conference Playoff Voting Thread: VOTING ENDS SUNDAY 

Post#1 » by Jersey Generals » Sat Jul 1, 2017 2:19 am

Hello! Welcome to the 2017 Nets Build-A-Team Playoff thread. This is open for ANYONE to vote, so if you're not part of the game or even a Nets fan, feel free to throw your votes as you see fit.

The point of this is to find the team that would win against their match-up. So check out the match-ups below and vote for who you think would win a series.

What is the criteria of voting? There are three things you should look at:

1) how good is this team? Flat out, could it beat everyone else if they were to play every other team?

2) how deep is this team? Can this team overcome an injury?

3) how does this team match-up with the other?

Using those three prongs, choose which team would win in the two play-off matches.

If you want a more in-depth look at the various teams, go here. http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1562810

Western Conference Match-ups

Number 1. DarkXaero vs. Number 4. Jersery Generals

DarkXaero wrote:Jersey Dwellers

PG: John Wall/Reggie Jackson
SG: Khris Middleton/Buddy Hield
SF: Gordon Hayward/Danilo Gallinari/Jaylen Brown
PF: Blake Griffin/JaMychael Green/Kelly Olynyk
C: Marc Gasol/Clint Capela

I built my team to be versatile for any type of team it could come up against. Dwight Howard and Steven Adams are not a match for my center rotation. Marc Gasol can stretch the floor and I also have Olynyk available to cause matchup problems. Love at the 5 gets countered easily by Blake at the 5. Gallinari can play 3 and 4. Wes Matthews isn't a defensive presence, he's inefficient on offense and an average defender. He's not even worthy of being a backup in BAT. Patterson has declined a lot in the past couple seasons, JaMychal Green is a significantly better version of him. Ingles is a good role player but will get outmatched by my sixth man Gallinari. Bledsoe and Reggie Jackson are close but I'll give Bledsoe the edge in that matchup. Overall, I believe my bench to be comfortably better.

Onto the starting lineup, you have the best player (Durant) but I have the best balance in the starting lineup. You're playing a SF at SG, and Durant & George being in the same lineup reduces each other's effectiveness. I believe 3 of my starters are comfortably better than yours (PG, PF, C). Dwight Howard's value on the court is nowhere what it used to be, and is best suited to a bench role in BAT. I can even choose to hack Dwight Howard. Marc Gasol would abuse him in the low post and even force him out of the paint with 3pt shooting and his elite playmaking skills. Jrue Holiday and Kevin Love can't keep up with the explosiveness/athleticism of John Wall & Blake Griffin. I believe that your team would have trouble in transition defense containing Wall & Griffin on the break.

Also, each player on my starting five is an above average playmaker, with 3 of them being elite at their positions (Wall, Griffin, Gasol). I built the team with stars having a unselfish mentality, given its the only way to make star players/scorers successfully coexist. Even the weakest player in my starting five is a player who can run the pick & roll well, space out the floor with great shooting, defend multiple positions, and can score in isolation. Overall, my team has spacing at every position, extremely high pick & roll options, a strong bench, ton of scoring at each position, defensive versatility, and the ability to destroy teams on the fast break. The Las Vegas Sharks would be outmatched.


Jersey Generals wrote:Las Vegas Sharks

Jrue Holiday/Eric Bledsoe/Marcus Smart
Paul George/Wes Matthews
Kevin Durant/Joe Ingles
Kevin Love/Patrick Patterson
Dwight Howard/Steven Adams/Pau Gasol

I intend on running a system similar to seven seconds or less, but based around intense defense like the early 90s Runnin' Rebels. In the set offense, I intend of shooting a lot, while running the offense through the point position, but mostly, I would look to get open court and fast break points. Rebounding and great defense is how the team will get out into the open court.

I feel that Jersey Dwellers cannot match-up with my team. If the Dwellers want to stay big, I have Dwight Howard and Steven Adams to match up with their size and strength. If they want to go small, I can drop Paul George to the 3, Durant to the 4, and have Love at the 5, while inserting another defensive presence that can shoot in Wes Matthews. I have defense and play-making on the bench in Bledsoe, Ingles and Patterson, while also having a skilled low-post scorer in Pau Gasol. Overall, the Jersey Dwellers will not be able to match-up with my team as big or small.


Number 2. 3pt_chucker vs. Number 3. CalamityX12

3pt_chucker wrote:3pt-Chuckers

PG: Chris Paul/Patrick Beverley
SG: Nicolas Batum/Eric Gordon/Dion Waiters
SF: Jimmy Butler/Rudy Gay/PF Tucker
PF: Serge Ibaka/Ersan Ilyasova
C: Al Horford/Tristan Thompson


CalamityX12 wrote:The Calamity Express

PG: James Harden (1st), Mike Conley (3rd)
SG: Klay Thompson (2nd), Caris Levert (7th)
SF: Trevor Ariza (5th), Evan Fournier (8th), Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (12th)
PF: Carmelo Anthony(4th), Rondae Hollis-Jefferson (10th)
C: Marcin Gortat (6th), Thon Maker (9th), Nikola Vucevic (11th)
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Post#2 » by DarkXaero » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:17 am

I feel that Jersey Dwellers cannot match-up with my team. If the Dwellers want to stay big, I have Dwight Howard and Steven Adams to match up with their size and strength. If they want to go small, I can drop Paul George to the 3, Durant to the 4, and have Love at the 5, while inserting another defensive presence that can shoot in Wes Matthews. I have defense and play-making on the bench in Bledsoe, Ingles and Patterson, while also having a skilled low-post scorer in Pau Gasol. Overall, the Jersey Dwellers will not be able to match-up with my team as big or small.
I disagree, I built my team to be versatile for any type of team it could come up against. Dwight Howard and Steven Adams are not a match for my center rotation. Marc Gasol can stretch the floor and I also have Olynyk available to cause matchup problems. Love at the 5 gets countered easily by Blake at the 5. Gallinari can play 3 and 4. Wes Matthews isn't a defensive presence, he's inefficient on offense and an average defender. He's not even worthy of being a backup in BAT. Patterson has declined a lot in the past couple seasons, JaMychal Green is a significantly better version of him. Ingles is a good role player but will get outmatched by my sixth man Gallinari. Bledsoe and Reggie Jackson are close but I'll give Bledsoe the edge in that matchup. Overall, I believe my bench to be comfortably better.

Onto the starting lineup, you have the best player (Durant) but I have the best balance in the starting lineup. You're playing a SF at SG, and Durant & George being in the same lineup reduces each other's effectiveness. I believe 3 of my starters are comfortably better than yours (PG, PF, C). Dwight Howard's value on the court is nowhere what it used to be, and is best suited to a bench role in BAT. I can even choose to hack Dwight Howard. Marc Gasol would abuse him in the low post and even force him out of the paint with 3pt shooting and his elite playmaking skills. Jrue Holiday and Kevin Love can't keep up with the explosiveness/athleticism of John Wall & Blake Griffin. I believe that your team would have trouble in transition defense containing Wall & Griffin on the break.

Also, each player on my starting five is an above average playmaker, with 3 of them being elite at their positions (Wall, Griffin, Gasol). I built the team with stars having a unselfish mentality, given its the only way to make star players/scorers successfully coexist. Even the weakest player in my starting five is a player who can run the pick & roll well, space out the floor with great shooting, defend multiple positions, and can score in isolation. Overall, my team has spacing at every position, extremely high pick & roll options, a strong bench, ton of scoring at each position, defensive versatility, and the ability to destroy teams on the fast break. The Las Vegas Sharks would be outmatched.
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Post#3 » by Jersey Generals » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:04 am

DarkXaero wrote:
I feel that Jersey Dwellers cannot match-up with my team. If the Dwellers want to stay big, I have Dwight Howard and Steven Adams to match up with their size and strength. If they want to go small, I can drop Paul George to the 3, Durant to the 4, and have Love at the 5, while inserting another defensive presence that can shoot in Wes Matthews. I have defense and play-making on the bench in Bledsoe, Ingles and Patterson, while also having a skilled low-post scorer in Pau Gasol. Overall, the Jersey Dwellers will not be able to match-up with my team as big or small.
I disagree, I built my team to be versatile for any type of team it could come up against. Dwight Howard and Steven Adams are not a match for my center rotation. Marc Gasol can stretch the floor and I also have Olynyk available to cause matchup problems. Love at the 5 gets countered easily by Blake at the 5. Gallinari can play 3 and 4. Wes Matthews isn't a defensive presence, he's inefficient on offense and an average defender. He's not even worthy of being a backup in BAT. Patterson has declined a lot in the past couple seasons, JaMychal Green is a significantly better version of him. Ingles is a good role player but will get outmatched by my sixth man Gallinari. Bledsoe and Reggie Jackson are close but I'll give Bledsoe the edge in that matchup. Overall, I believe my bench to be comfortably better.

Onto the starting lineup, you have the best player (Durant) but I have the best balance in the starting lineup. You're playing a SF at SG, and Durant & George being in the same lineup reduces each other's effectiveness. I believe 3 of my starters are comfortably better than yours (PG, PF, C). Dwight Howard's value on the court is nowhere what it used to be, and is best suited to a bench role in BAT. I can even choose to hack Dwight Howard. Marc Gasol would abuse him in the low post and even force him out of the paint with 3pt shooting and his elite playmaking skills. Jrue Holiday and Kevin Love can't keep up with the explosiveness/athleticism of John Wall & Blake Griffin. I believe that your team would have trouble in transition defense containing Wall & Griffin on the break.

Also, each player on my starting five is an above average playmaker, with 3 of them being elite at their positions (Wall, Griffin, Gasol). I built the team with stars having a unselfish mentality, given its the only way to make star players/scorers successfully coexist. Even the weakest player in my starting five is a player who can run the pick & roll well, space out the floor with great shooting, defend multiple positions, and can score in isolation. Overall, my team has spacing at every position, extremely high pick & roll options, a strong bench, ton of scoring at each position, defensive versatility, and the ability to destroy teams on the fast break. The Las Vegas Sharks would be outmatched.


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Post#4 » by DarkXaero » Fri Jul 7, 2017 3:05 am

Jersey Generals wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:
I feel that Jersey Dwellers cannot match-up with my team. If the Dwellers want to stay big, I have Dwight Howard and Steven Adams to match up with their size and strength. If they want to go small, I can drop Paul George to the 3, Durant to the 4, and have Love at the 5, while inserting another defensive presence that can shoot in Wes Matthews. I have defense and play-making on the bench in Bledsoe, Ingles and Patterson, while also having a skilled low-post scorer in Pau Gasol. Overall, the Jersey Dwellers will not be able to match-up with my team as big or small.
I disagree, I built my team to be versatile for any type of team it could come up against. Dwight Howard and Steven Adams are not a match for my center rotation. Marc Gasol can stretch the floor and I also have Olynyk available to cause matchup problems. Love at the 5 gets countered easily by Blake at the 5. Gallinari can play 3 and 4. Wes Matthews isn't a defensive presence, he's inefficient on offense and an average defender. He's not even worthy of being a backup in BAT. Patterson has declined a lot in the past couple seasons, JaMychal Green is a significantly better version of him. Ingles is a good role player but will get outmatched by my sixth man Gallinari. Bledsoe and Reggie Jackson are close but I'll give Bledsoe the edge in that matchup. Overall, I believe my bench to be comfortably better.

Onto the starting lineup, you have the best player (Durant) but I have the best balance in the starting lineup. You're playing a SF at SG, and Durant & George being in the same lineup reduces each other's effectiveness. I believe 3 of my starters are comfortably better than yours (PG, PF, C). Dwight Howard's value on the court is nowhere what it used to be, and is best suited to a bench role in BAT. I can even choose to hack Dwight Howard. Marc Gasol would abuse him in the low post and even force him out of the paint with 3pt shooting and his elite playmaking skills. Jrue Holiday and Kevin Love can't keep up with the explosiveness/athleticism of John Wall & Blake Griffin. I believe that your team would have trouble in transition defense containing Wall & Griffin on the break.

Also, each player on my starting five is an above average playmaker, with 3 of them being elite at their positions (Wall, Griffin, Gasol). I built the team with stars having a unselfish mentality, given its the only way to make star players/scorers successfully coexist. Even the weakest player in my starting five is a player who can run the pick & roll well, space out the floor with great shooting, defend multiple positions, and can score in isolation. Overall, my team has spacing at every position, extremely high pick & roll options, a strong bench, ton of scoring at each position, defensive versatility, and the ability to destroy teams on the fast break. The Las Vegas Sharks would be outmatched.


Do you want me to put that in the initial post?
Sure.
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Post#5 » by Jersey Generals » Fri Jul 7, 2017 8:27 pm

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Post#6 » by DarkXaero » Fri Jul 7, 2017 10:44 pm

Jersey Generals wrote:Image
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What kind of seeding system is this where my team as #1 seed faces your team as #4 seed in the first playoffs round?
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Post#7 » by CalamityX12 » Fri Jul 7, 2017 10:48 pm

Someone explain how Harden, Klay, Conley n Melo are getting trumped??? Lol
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Post#8 » by Jersey Generals » Fri Jul 7, 2017 11:02 pm

DarkXaero wrote:What kind of seeding system is this where my team as #1 seed faces your team as #4 seed in the first playoffs round?


Unfortunately, this is because we couldn't get the 16 teams that I originally wanted. If that had happened, you would be facing an eight (maybe, obviously teams would be different and you might not be number 1), but because we didn't, you're number one in the Western Conference. vincecarter4pres is number on in the Eastern Conference. Consider this the second round.

CalamityX12 wrote:Someone explain how Harden, Klay, Conley n Melo are getting trumped??? Lol


Post a reason why your team should win and I'll inject it into the first post. Plus, you should have traded my Klay when I offered, haha.
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Post#9 » by DarkXaero » Fri Jul 7, 2017 11:03 pm

Jersey Generals wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:What kind of seeding system is this where my team as #1 seed faces your team as #4 seed in the first playoffs round?


Unfortunately, this is because we couldn't get the 16 teams that I originally wanted. If that had happened, you would be facing an eight (maybe, obviously teams would be different and you might not be number 1), but because we didn't, you're number one in the Western Conference. vincecarter4pres is number on in the Eastern Conference. Consider this the second round.

I just think that it's messed up that I'm facing one of the three strongest teams this early.
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Post#10 » by Jersey Generals » Wed Aug 2, 2017 12:39 am

DarkXaero wrote:I just think that it's messed up that I'm facing one of the three strongest teams this early.


I feel you. Next time, hopefully we'll have 16 teams so we don't have anyone screwed like that.
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Post#11 » by Jersey Generals » Wed Aug 2, 2017 12:40 am

3pt_chucker and Jersey Generals wins and moves onto the Western Conference Finals.

Dark and Calamity be on the lookout for the next general voting, where your teams will be up to capture the 5-8 spots for the final poll.

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