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Post#361 » by Ror1997 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:47 pm

Everyone take a moment to remember how Noel & Okafor paired at 4&5 went.

I don't think Okafor and Allen should share time. One should back the other up.
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Post#362 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:48 pm

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he's buying in. of course he wants to play, who wouldn't....but he knows in the long run preparation will pay off.

Fans are too damn impatient. and if he goes out there not knowing where he is supposed to be on offense/defense, or he goes out there and gets gassed due to our pace and does dumb things from fatigue, the same ones saying PLAY HIM NOW!!! will be the ones saying that he's garbage. calm down folks.


At First, when he got traded I thought he was gonna play immediately based on his talent. After seeing a Nets/Wizards game and how they run their Defense and Motion Offense, I think Jahlil would do great in it but you have to be prepared with conditioning and have to fully understand the offense know the cuts where to set screens where someone will spot up. There is a lot of things in that offense you have to know and it's not something you should throw someone into.
I would like him to take more time to learn it maybe put him in to like 2-4 more games with 7 minutes or less to get adjusted.

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“They just want to see me put the effort in. They’re totally invested in me, and that feels great,” Okafor said. “I came from Philadelphia to be a part of the organization where they’re all invested in you. It’s a great feeling for a player and I’m ready to work – whatever they want me to do I’m all in.”

“I like being around him, that’s important,” Atkinson said of “Jah.” “I like that he’s polite, I like that he’s courteous, he’s got a nice demeanor; I like that he’s very business-like. Young guys can be a little loose. I think he’s very serious, very focused, so that’s great, that’s where it starts, what’s your demeanor like? As I get to know him day to day I’ll get more information.”

“Just getting used to the pace, that’s the main thing,” Okafor said, regarding what he’s been told. “Especially with me having not really having played at all this year to jump right on the court to play with the number-one pace team in the league might be a challenge.”

“They played free, man, they played together – it was really fun to watch,” he continued. “They get up and down, they defend hard, it’s like a family out there. I can’t wait to get out there.”


I think he should be challenged to put the ball on the floor like he normally does, but look to create for others when the defense comes for him.

I think it's not out of the realm of possibility.
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Re: Okafor Traded to the Nets 

Post#363 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:49 pm

Ror1997 wrote:Everyone take a moment to remember how Noel & Okafor paired at 4&5 went.

I don't think Okafor and Allen should share time. One should back the other up.


plenty of minutes to go around. I like Allen in 1st for defense, then Okafor in with the 2nd group for offense.
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Post#364 » by vincecarter4pres » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:16 pm

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dude WTF

These are seriously some raw, and unwarranted comments. He has done nothing to even remotely deserve this kind of vitriol. You guys who are bashing him already when he hasn't even had a chance to prove himself are all out of line big time. come on now.

I was definitely over the top, in the heat of the moment and sounding like a hater.

I will only back down on my ridiculousness and intensity though, it was still concerning given his recent history.

Was I reading in too much? Without question.

Was it nothing though? No.

Could he have been the victim of preconceived notions and his rep? Most certainly.

Did I make entirely too big a deal over it as a fan? You bet!(*Ryan Ruocco voice)

I don't need a wild towel spinning chearleader, but I don't expect or embrace his looks of disdain.


I was definitely too critical, but there is a history to create my concern.

Don't care if he busts out the league. Prefer he doesn't and he's another Marks the Magician steal lol, but I hope he isn't a distraction, that's all.


Deron has damaged us all friend.

We will all get through this together. as a group.

I think I'm going to need some therapy and a Xanax or 3. :lol:
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Post#365 » by Ror1997 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:39 pm

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Ror1997 wrote:Everyone take a moment to remember how Noel & Okafor paired at 4&5 went.

I don't think Okafor and Allen should share time. One should back the other up.


plenty of minutes to go around. I like Allen in 1st for defense, then Okafor in with the 2nd group for offense.


But at the same time, I want that LeVert-Allen oop...No....I NEED that LeVert-Allen oop connection to continue
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Post#366 » by LKIRNets » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:57 pm

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Ror1997 wrote:Everyone take a moment to remember how Noel & Okafor paired at 4&5 went.

I don't think Okafor and Allen should share time. One should back the other up.


plenty of minutes to go around. I like Allen in 1st for defense, then Okafor in with the 2nd group for offense.


But at the same time, I want that LeVert-Allen oop...No....I NEED that LeVert-Allen oop connection to continue


True. But we also have to prepare ourselves for the possibility of Okafor running wild. This kid is not just a little, he is immensely offensively skilled. For now Afro will get in before him, in time bc we're invested in him. It will shift to Okafor in the 1st unit.
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Post#367 » by DeRoma » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:27 pm

Ror1997 wrote:Everyone take a moment to remember how Noel & Okafor paired at 4&5 went.

I don't think Okafor and Allen should share time. One should back the other up.

You also have to think how bad the system was in Philly when they were both in together. They didn't also didn't have any playmakers when they were there together. IMO as long as Atkinson is completely hands on about Okafor about holding the ball for more than 3 seconds Jah+Fro should work fine.
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Post#368 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:37 pm

If both can knock down 3's at a respectable rate I can there being times that they play together
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Post#369 » by ZemGOAT » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:58 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:If both can knock down 3's at a respectable rate I can there being times that they play together

I think if one can shoot 3s it will be enough for them to be compatible together. But my main issue with both playing together is thier rebounding is very inconsistent and it will effect them getting extra possesions
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Post#370 » by steady » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:12 am

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plenty of minutes to go around. I like Allen in 1st for defense, then Okafor in with the 2nd group for offense.


But at the same time, I want that LeVert-Allen oop...No....I NEED that LeVert-Allen oop connection to continue


True. But we also have to prepare ourselves for the possibility of Okafor running wild. This kid is not just a little, he is immensely offensively skilled. For now Afro will get in before him, in time bc we're invested in him. It will shift to Okafor in the 1st unit.


I think you are underestimating Jarrett Allen. I feel like he's just gettimg started and that we don't even have an idea of his ceiling . And just as important Jarrett is a perfect system fit.
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Post#371 » by steady » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:15 am

Okafor is growing on me. I really liked what Kenny said about liking being around him and Okafor's seriousness about getting better.

"They’re really invested in me. That just makes me feel wanted, it makes me feel a part of this team.”

I hope he finds a role on this team.
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Post#372 » by ZemGOAT » Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:17 pm

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But at the same time, I want that LeVert-Allen oop...No....I NEED that LeVert-Allen oop connection to continue


True. But we also have to prepare ourselves for the possibility of Okafor running wild. This kid is not just a little, he is immensely offensively skilled. For now Afro will get in before him, in time bc we're invested in him. It will shift to Okafor in the 1st unit.


I think you are underestimating Jarrett Allen. I feel like he's just gettimg started and that we don't even have an idea of his ceiling . And just as important Jarrett is a perfect system fit.

Once Allen gets better at Rebounding which he need alot of improvement on. He will be a beast.
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Re: Okafor Traded to the Nets 

Post#373 » by Claud » Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:42 pm

I understand Kenny and the staff not wanting to throw him into the fire right away but we currently are giving playing time to negative players such as Mozgov and Acy. With Booker gone now we need to rely on a 19 year rookie to come in and give us consistent big minutes... no bueno. Point is even if Okafor messes up I'd rather watch him play and grow while making mistakes instead of watching Acy and Mozgov stink up the joint.
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Post#374 » by Prokorov » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:18 pm

steady wrote:Okafor is growing on me. I really liked what Kenny said about liking being around him and Okafor's seriousness about getting better.

"They’re really invested in me. That just makes me feel wanted, it makes me feel a part of this team.”

I hope he finds a role on this team.


i think its a great situation for okafor. and im not concerned about his defense. he is extremely flawed offensively and he got no help from the staff in philly. kenny has alot ot work with, but also alot of work to do. we have some upside here.
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Post#375 » by Prokorov » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:19 pm

Claud wrote:I understand Kenny and the staff not wanting to throw him into the fire right away but we currently are giving playing time to negative players such as Mozgov and Acy. With Booker gone now we need to rely on a 19 year rookie to come in and give us consistent big minutes... no bueno. Point is even if Okafor messes up I'd rather watch him play and grow while making mistakes instead of watching Acy and Mozgov stink up the joint.


playing negative players doesnt hurt okafors development

throwing okafor in too early when he doesnt know what he is doing just reinforces bad habits and is the same kind of terirble coaching he got in philly.

it is critical with okafor to do things right. for get the systems, you need to teach him the right way to work, workout, how they do things in brooklyn, etc.

every net under kenny was brought on slow. everyone benefited from it

who cares if moxgov is negative for 15 minutes in games that dont count? woudlnt you rather give okafor the best chance to develop into a long term piece here?
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Post#376 » by steady » Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:02 pm

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Claud wrote:I understand Kenny and the staff not wanting to throw him into the fire right away but we currently are giving playing time to negative players such as Mozgov and Acy. With Booker gone now we need to rely on a 19 year rookie to come in and give us consistent big minutes... no bueno. Point is even if Okafor messes up I'd rather watch him play and grow while making mistakes instead of watching Acy and Mozgov stink up the joint.


playing negative players doesnt hurt okafors development

throwing okafor in too early when he doesnt know what he is doing just reinforces bad habits and is the same kind of terirble coaching he got in philly.

it is critical with okafor to do things right. for get the systems, you need to teach him the right way to work, workout, how they do things in brooklyn, etc.

every net under kenny was brought on slow. everyone benefited from it

who cares if moxgov is negative for 15 minutes in games that dont count? woudlnt you rather give okafor the best chance to develop into a long term piece here?


I agree with this. Okafor's not being brought along slowly because Acy/Moz can provide more. He is being brought along slow to be fair to him. -- for his sake, which is also for the Nets' long term benefit
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Post#377 » by SubZero » Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:28 pm

I see, I see Kenny.. sit him his first two games to make sure he gets his Nets debut on his birthday. Great gift. Well played.... *fingers crossed*
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Post#378 » by SubZero » Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:43 pm

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Post#379 » by Paradise » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:26 pm

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Post#380 » by ZemGOAT » Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:02 am

Well Happy Birthday Jahlil

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