2/7/2018 Brooklyn Nets @ Detroit Pistons

[LKIRNets]

Forget about point guard he makes bad decisions with the ball, hopefully he gets better in that department. The team missed LeVert tonight.

You know Levert also had a 6 TO night last time we played these same Detroit Pistons in Brooklyn, I believe he was a -29 that night.

On top of that in our last win against them, he shot 29% that whole game and was a -4 off the bench.

DLo is 3 whole years younger than him.

This is why I started pointing out LeVert's pick and roll defense before he got killed by NeNe (which a few people were perfectly fine with).

dudes pick and choose who they **** on regarding this roster.

RHJ has a bad game? Russell has a bad game? Dinwiddie has a bad game? its almost predictable at this point.

LeVert could go 2-15 with 8 TOs and dudes will call him untouchable in trade talks the next day but lets trade Rondae for the sake of doing so because they Nets shouldn't pay him regardless of the fact that he is the most consistent player on the team.

You a real one bro. You and Prok.

[MrDollarBills]

You know Levert also had a 6 TO night last time we played these same Detroit Pistons in Brooklyn, I believe he was a -29 that night.

Yeah. He’s not paying attention to LeVerts or Harris’s turnovers.

Any turnover is bad but when someone makes the same mistake over and over..

Is DLo not the primary ball handler? You should hold him accountable he deserves the criticism.

he should be. he should also be allowed some room to grow and some patience.

why is the patience that was showed to LeVert not being showed to Russell? or even Okafor for that matter?

[kamaze]

In the second half 3rd or 4th quarter out of a timeout there was a forced pass into Okafur that resulted in a turnover and then a pass by Harris was picked off. D'Angelo was subbed for Harris stayed in the game.

[MrDollarBills]

You know Levert also had a 6 TO night last time we played these same Detroit Pistons in Brooklyn, I believe he was a -29 that night.

On top of that in our last win against them, he shot 29% that whole game and was a -4 off the bench.

DLo is 3 whole years younger than him.

This is why I started pointing out LeVert's pick and roll defense before he got killed by NeNe (which a few people were perfectly fine with).

dudes pick and choose who they **** on regarding this roster.

RHJ has a bad game? Russell has a bad game? Dinwiddie has a bad game? its almost predictable at this point.

LeVert could go 2-15 with 8 TOs and dudes will call him untouchable in trade talks the next day but lets trade Rondae for the sake of doing so because they Nets shouldn't pay him regardless of the fact that he is the most consistent player on the team.

You a real one bro. You and Prok.

I just believe in giving guys chances.

listen, if the front office trades a guy or waives them, based on what i have seen from Marks/Kenny...i'll trust them, even if i don't like it (i was sad when kilpatrick got waived, but i understood).

but in the debate amongst us fans, i'm having a hard time wondering why Dinwiddie should be traded for less than equal value when clearly he is trending towards something serious.

RHJ is trending up.

Russell is coming back from injury and is going thru a phase right now of uncertainty and he's trying to find his identity as a player. should he be gung ho about scoring? should he just move the ball? he needs the time and space to figure out his game under this offense and as apart of this team. Caris LeVert had this same issue from October til December and he was given that. Russell deserves the same, as well as Okafor, Webb, Stauskas, and Vaughn.

[MGrand15]

Stanley Johnson swung this game. Absolutely lit up Joe Harris. You could tell the game plan was to go at him all night.

[MrDollarBills]

Kenny just said that Allen Crabbe needs to be a risk taker. That's the guy we need to see.

This! i want to see him be more aggressve like he was tonight.

catch the ball. make a decision. if a guy gives you space, pull up from downtown. if he runs you off the line, take 2-3 dribbles in and hit that mid range J. perfect that jumper in practice.

he needs to seriously watch tape of reggie miller. crabbe should be a factor on offense every night.

the best players in the NBA always find a way to create options for themselves on O.

[kamaze]

Yeah. He’s not paying attention to LeVerts or Harris’s turnovers.

Any turnover is bad but when someone makes the same mistake over and over..

Is DLo not the primary ball handler? You should hold him accountable he deserves the criticism.

he should be. he should also be allowed some room to grow and some patience.

why is the patience that was showed to LeVert not being showed to Russell? or even Okafor for that matter?

I'm a fan of both Le'Vert and Okafor's. Imo DLo is a scorer why I harp on him is because I think he's being used wrong. He even said so last year he prefers to play off the ball.

"It's easier. I like the ability to be able to do both jobs," he said. "But playing off the ball, I feel like you have one job and that's to play-make on the offensive end. On the defensive end, definitely guard your position. But on the offensive end, just play make, and I feel like that's my strength instead of coming up across half-court with the ball in my hands and setting up guys... and then when the ball comes back making plays."

"It's Vice versa, when you off the ball as soon as you get it, you can make those plays and attack the defense. So it's definitely easier, but wherever I'm at, I feel I can make it work."

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/7/26/16036052/d-angelo-russell-trade-nets-lakers-magic-johnson-questions-leadership

"I feel like when you're playing shooting guard, you've got to score the ball or make plays for your teammates," Russell said. "Playing the point guard, it's harder to do that, be aggressive, try to score the ball every time, because you've got to make at least one pass. But figuring it out, whatever position I'm in, I'm going to try to make the best of it."

http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-lakers/post/_/id/43729/role-switch-helps-spark-dangelo-russells-career-high-scoring-outburst

In eight games starting at shooting guard alongside Clarkson, Russell has posted impressive per-36 minute numbers of 20.5 points, 5.5 assists, and 1.5 steals while hitting 2.7 threes per game. His steals and assists dropped slightly compared to when he was the lone ball-handler but so has his usage rate and turnovers.

http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-finding-out-dangelo-russell-may-be-a-shooting-guard-after-all/2017/04/07/

[MrDollarBills]

Stanley Johnson swung this game. Absolutely lit up Joe Harris. You could tell the game plan was to go at him all night.

he beat our asses tonight.

[MrDollarBills]

Any turnover is bad but when someone makes the same mistake over and over..

Is DLo not the primary ball handler? You should hold him accountable he deserves the criticism.

he should be. he should also be allowed some room to grow and some patience.

why is the patience that was showed to LeVert not being showed to Russell? or even Okafor for that matter?

I'm a fan of both Le'Vert and Okafor's. Imo DLo is a scorer why I harp on him is because I think he's being used wrong. He even said so last year he prefers to play off the ball.

"It's easier. I like the ability to be able to do both jobs," he said. "But playing off the ball, I feel like you have one job and that's to play-make on the offensive end. On the defensive end, definitely guard your position. But on the offensive end, just play make, and I feel like that's my strength instead of coming up across half-court with the ball in my hands and setting up guys... and then when the ball comes back making plays."

"It's Vice versa, when you off the ball as soon as you get it, you can make those plays and attack the defense. So it's definitely easier, but wherever I'm at, I feel I can make it work."

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/7/26/16036052/d-angelo-russell-trade-nets-lakers-magic-johnson-questions-leadership

"I feel like when you're playing shooting guard, you've got to score the ball or make plays for your teammates," Russell said. "Playing the point guard, it's harder to do that, be aggressive, try to score the ball every time, because you've got to make at least one pass. But figuring it out, whatever position I'm in, I'm going to try to make the best of it."

http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-lakers/post/_/id/43729/role-switch-helps-spark-dangelo-russells-career-high-scoring-outburst

In eight games starting at shooting guard alongside Clarkson, Russell has posted impressive per-36 minute numbers of 20.5 points, 5.5 assists, and 1.5 steals while hitting 2.7 threes per game. His steals and assists dropped slightly compared to when he was the lone ball-handler but so has his usage rate and turnovers.

http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-finding-out-dangelo-russell-may-be-a-shooting-guard-after-all/2017/04/07/

he does play better off of the ball.

but right now, the only true healthy PG is Spencer Dinwiddie.

i think the bigger picture is that Russell is being a good teammate and is pitching in. he had a few solid assists tonight. but he turns the ball over too much. so, we know what he'll have to be going forward.

[MGrand15]

I did some research and Dinwiddie is shooting 100% from 3 on spot ups and non-crazy shots. Feels like he never misses on catch and shoots.

[LKIRNets]

I did some research and Dinwiddie is shooting 100% from 3 on spot ups and non-crazy shots. Feels like he never misses on catch and shoots.

show me the screen shot.

But while we're at it. His defensive numbers are what impresses me. http://stats.nba.com/player/203915/defense-dash/

[313 Professor]

I did some research and Dinwiddie is shooting 100% from 3 on spot ups and non-crazy shots. Feels like he never misses on catch and shoots.

Lol what?

He does get caught with the shot clock running down and throw up some crazy ones. Had a wild air ball in the 1st quarter this game. Guess it's better than a shot clock violation though. Spot ups have been pure recently.

[LKIRNets]

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[Roy Tarpley]

The Nets are now below the 28.5 over/under pace -- on target for 28 wins. The loss of Zeller and RHJ's injury has hurt the team, and the greater shift to development and asset acquisition, which is probably the right way to go, does not bode well for getting to 29 wins. Too bad. I still think the bet was an informed and good one -- and 29 wins is still within the realm of possibility. The Nets have to go 10-16 the rest of the way, which is doable if RHJ comes back soon, DLo starts playing to his abilities, we don't trade away Dinwiddie/Harris/Carroll, and other teams start tanking.

[JiggaMan06]

I believe we can get to 30 wins, once we get our next win we're gonna take off. I know we are. It's the slow starts that hurt us, always playing from behind. I did like to see Crabbe get going, but Dinwiddie was a ball stopper the last 5 minutes.

[MrDollarBills]

The Nets are now below the 28.5 over/under pace -- on target for 28 wins. The loss of Zeller and RHJ's injury has hurt the team, and the greater shift to development and asset acquisition, which is probably the right way to go, does not bode well for getting to 29 wins. Too bad. I still think the bet was an informed and good one -- and 29 wins is still within the realm of possibility. The Nets have to go 10-16 the rest of the way, which is doable if RHJ comes back soon, DLo starts playing to his abilities, we don't trade away Dinwiddie/Harris/Carroll, and other teams start tanking.

yeah this stretch of losses and injuries has been disheartening tbh. we were on pace to crack 30. we may not even get to 26 at this point. hopefully all star break will bring back a healthy team and Russell will have some time to figure things out.

[LKIRNets]

I believe we can get to 30 wins, once we get our next win we're gonna take off. I know we are. It's the slow starts that hurt us, always playing from behind. I did like to see Crabbe get going, but Dinwiddie was a ball stopper the last 5 minutes.

Very unlike him. He wasn't a ball stopper, more like a ball freezer. I mean Allen Crabbe was clearly the hot guy. Him and Joe Harris, inexplicably homie was trying to force the hot hand on DeMarre Carroll and it was just

Growing pains. He'll learn.

[Starski]

Watching this game now on yes... am I the only one who throws up when nik puts the ball of the floor?


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[Yit]

Tracking players performance vs Pistons 7 Feb 2018

Crabbe - 58 (+++)
Allen - 38 (+)
Harris - 33 (+)
DMC - 28 (=)
Dinwiddie - 23 (=)
Mozgov - 9 (-)
DAR - 8 (-)
Webb - 5 (-)
Whitehead - 3 (-)
Okafor - 1 (-)
Stauskas - 0 (--)

Decent performance by starters but we just don''t have enough players performing at the level needed - DAR still looks like needing more time to get his form back in order.