GT: Nets @ Raptors | 1/11/2019

[Prokorov]

crabbe is still a top 20 shooter in the league. he is missed.

You think? Crabbe right now is a shooter who don't shoot. Half season is passed already and he is marginal in our rotation.
The worst thing is his body language, everytime seems a beaten dog.
If we have an opportunity to dump his contract, will be better to make it.
We can go to the Rockets and offer him for Brandon Knight (and cut him before joins Brooklyn) and Chriss or Nené.
Rockets needs fresh bodies and are capped out for long time anyway, we takes flexibility...

you dont forget how to shoot in your mid 20s. small sample size and knee jerk reaction but irrational fans

[SpeedyG]

I don't understand why Carroll isn't starting over Graham though?

Carroll has been playing well off the bench. You start him and Graham makes it even more difficult for our 2nd unit since the only scorers will be Napier and Spencer (or Russell with staggered subs)

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Yea but our starting unit lacks scoring too outside of Russell. Joe Harris is essentially the second option with the starting unit, which isn't enough for a team with playoffs aspirations.

Well you're basically robbing Peter to pay Paul. They made their run with Spencer, Napier, Carroll, ?(Rodi?), Davis. You take Carroll and put Graham in that and there's even less options.

I think there's one quote during the game that basically summarizes our lineups with all these injuries.

Russell, after getting the ball off a Raptors bucket, looks up court shouts at someone (I think Carroll) and says

"Are you the 4? HEY! Are you the 4? Are you the 4?"

These guys are scrambling around with our lineups.



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[ZUDAMAGIC]

Did you notice Caris LeVert and Rondae Hollis-Jefferson in street clothes on the bench? That's a huge reason why.

You couldve had dlo and harris and street clothes, that kid is just not an nba player

of course he is an NBA player. He is also not a 10% three point shooter, he is a 39.8% three point shooter. what he has done in a 5 game sample coming back from injury should not be used to call him a non-NBA player.

Ive seen him play before the injury. He should not be in any rotation on any team in the nba...

[Prokorov]

You couldve had dlo and harris and street clothes, that kid is just not an nba player

of course he is an NBA player. He is also not a 10% three point shooter, he is a 39.8% three point shooter. what he has done in a 5 game sample coming back from injury should not be used to call him a non-NBA player.

Ive seen him play before the injury. He should not be in any rotation on any team in the nba...

he is a plus defender who shoots 40% for his career from three. no one can use that?

[SpeedyG]

of course he is an NBA player. He is also not a 10% three point shooter, he is a 39.8% three point shooter. what he has done in a 5 game sample coming back from injury should not be used to call him a non-NBA player.

Ive seen him play before the injury. He should not be in any rotation on any team in the nba...

he is a plus defender who shoots 40% for his career from three. no one can use that?

Graham attempted a total 112 threes in the span of that "40%" shooting. He took 1.5 3pa last season, far from a volume shooter.

He also never shot higher than 38% in college despite the shorter line.

Looking deeper into his 17/18 game logs is further proof that he is not a 40% shooter.

He's probably not a 12% shooter that he is right now, but portraying him as a career sniper at 40% is misleading.



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[Prokorov]

Ive seen him play before the injury. He should not be in any rotation on any team in the nba...

he is a plus defender who shoots 40% for his career from three. no one can use that?

Graham attempted a total 112 threes in the span of that "40%" shooting. He took 1.5 3pa last season, far from a volume shooter.

He also never shot higher than 38% in college despite the shorter line.

Looking deeper into his 17/18 game logs is further proof that he is not a 40% shooter.

He's probably not a 12% shooter that he is right now, but portraying him as a career sniper at 40% is misleading.



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who called him a volume shooter? 112 attempts and 4 seasons is a much bigger sample then what 15-20 attempts in 5-10 games with the nets?

he is alot closer to 39.8% then he is 12%.

[SpeedyG]

he is a plus defender who shoots 40% for his career from three. no one can use that?

Graham attempted a total 112 threes in the span of that "40%" shooting. He took 1.5 3pa last season, far from a volume shooter.

He also never shot higher than 38% in college despite the shorter line.

Looking deeper into his 17/18 game logs is further proof that he is not a 40% shooter.

He's probably not a 12% shooter that he is right now, but portraying him as a career sniper at 40% is misleading.



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who called him a volume shooter? 112 attempts and 4 seasons is a much bigger sample then what 15-20 attempts in 5-10 games with the nets?

he is alot closer to 39.8% then he is 12%.

Saying he's a career 40% 3 point shooter is misleading because it's, for all intents and purposes, just one season (90 games) and at low amount of attempts. He's never shot that well in college and he isn't shooting that well now.

It's a gross misrepresentation of his actual skill simply just to fit an argument.





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[Prokorov]

Graham attempted a total 112 threes in the span of that "40%" shooting. He took 1.5 3pa last season, far from a volume shooter.

He also never shot higher than 38% in college despite the shorter line.

Looking deeper into his 17/18 game logs is further proof that he is not a 40% shooter.

He's probably not a 12% shooter that he is right now, but portraying him as a career sniper at 40% is misleading.



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who called him a volume shooter? 112 attempts and 4 seasons is a much bigger sample then what 15-20 attempts in 5-10 games with the nets?

he is alot closer to 39.8% then he is 12%.

Saying he's a career 40% 3 point shooter is misleading because it's, for all intents and purposes, just one season (90 games) and at low amount of attempts. He's never shot that well in college and he isn't shooting that well now.

It's a gross misrepresentation of his actual skill simply just to fit an argument.





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It is an indisputable FACT that he is a career 39.8% shooter from three for his career

there is nothing misleading. this is fact. no one, at any point, insinuated he was some high usage high attemp 3 point sniper. the number was used in defense of those calling him an awful shooter who doesnt belong in the NBA

the only thing misleading is brushing aside 100+ career attempts and focusing instead on a 5-10 game sample sandwiching an injury

[ZUDAMAGIC]

The thing about Graham is that is misses are nowhere near. The opposing team loves when he shoots it.

[brook]

crabbe is still a top 20 shooter in the league. he is missed.

You think? Crabbe right now is a shooter who don't shoot. Half season is passed already and he is marginal in our rotation.
The worst thing is his body language, everytime seems a beaten dog.
If we have an opportunity to dump his contract, will be better to make it.
We can go to the Rockets and offer him for Brandon Knight (and cut him before joins Brooklyn) and Chriss or Nené.
Rockets needs fresh bodies and are capped out for long time anyway, we takes flexibility...

you dont forget how to shoot in your mid 20s. small sample size and knee jerk reaction but irrational fans

I didn't say that Crabbe forgets how to shoot. But this season he shoots a lot of airballs and he miss also a lot of wide open threes.
He's active on boards and on the defensive end, but offensively he's a very poor player.

Anyway, he's marginal right now, this is a fact. We start to win games when he's got injured and we put Kurucs in the lineup.

Obviously right now he's better to have him, but only because other 4 players are out, not because we really need Allen Crabbe.

I don't see any future for him here and like I said, if we have the opportunity to dump him, is better to make it in a second.

[Prokorov]

You think? Crabbe right now is a shooter who don't shoot. Half season is passed already and he is marginal in our rotation.
The worst thing is his body language, everytime seems a beaten dog.
If we have an opportunity to dump his contract, will be better to make it.
We can go to the Rockets and offer him for Brandon Knight (and cut him before joins Brooklyn) and Chriss or Nené.
Rockets needs fresh bodies and are capped out for long time anyway, we takes flexibility...

you dont forget how to shoot in your mid 20s. small sample size and knee jerk reaction but irrational fans

I didn't say that Crabbe forgets how to shoot. But this season he shoots a lot of airballs and he miss also a lot of wide open threes.
He's active on boards and on the defensive end, but offensively he's a very poor player.

Anyway, he's marginal right now, this is a fact. We start to win games when he's got injured and we put Kurucs in the lineup.

Obviously right now he's better to have him, but only because other 4 players are out, not because we really need Allen Crabbe.

I don't see any future for him here and like I said, if we have the opportunity to dump him, is better to make it in a second.

Crabbe is the perfect fit for what we do. he is extremely similar to joe harris. and gives us another shooter with or backing him up or depth there. it doesnt matter what he has done in a handful of games this year. he will continue to shoot 36-40+ % from three on high volume for the next 5-6 years.

[brook]

you dont forget how to shoot in your mid 20s. small sample size and knee jerk reaction but irrational fans

I didn't say that Crabbe forgets how to shoot. But this season he shoots a lot of airballs and he miss also a lot of wide open threes.
He's active on boards and on the defensive end, but offensively he's a very poor player.

Anyway, he's marginal right now, this is a fact. We start to win games when he's got injured and we put Kurucs in the lineup.

Obviously right now he's better to have him, but only because other 4 players are out, not because we really need Allen Crabbe.

I don't see any future for him here and like I said, if we have the opportunity to dump him, is better to make it in a second.

Crabbe is the perfect fit for what we do. he is extremely similar to joe harris. and gives us another shooter with or backing him up or depth there. it doesnt matter what he has done in a handful of games this year. he will continue to shoot 36-40+ % from three on high volume for the next 5-6 years.

I hope for him, but these type of guys normally costs like Joe, not like Crabbe. And Joe makes a few things more of Crabbe on the floor.
I'm not against the guy, but his contract has to be out.

[vincecarter4pres]

Uh guys were playing the best team in the East on the road down 5 players. It sucks to get blown out but it happens against elite teams. Nothing to freak out over.

This X 1000

I love how everytime we lose even if its to the warriors or raptors or rockets its "kennys rotations suck" or "why did he take so and so out"

Kenny has like 11 or 12 guys he needs to get minutes for. most teams run an 8-9 man rotatino while sometimes Kenny needs to find minutes for 13 players. Yet despite all that, the team continues to play cohesive basketball as guys are shuffled in and out. I know Russell had a good game, but the way people are posting here its like they expected him to play 40+ minutes or something. Part of why Russell was so good is because they keep his legs fresh.

this game looks alot different if we werent missing Levert, Crabbe, RHJ, and Dudley. thats a huge chunk of talent in street clothes. but hey we couldnt beat the easts #1 seed on the road down 2 starters and 4 rotation players... so it must be the rotations killing us

We are playing .500 ball at 15-15 since levert went down and everyone BURIED our season pronouncing it dead yet somehow Kenny get criticised for having this team slotted for the playoffs and playing the best basketball maybe in the enitre league over the past month.

Kawhi was unstoppable, alot of our guys didnt have it tonight, the refs were no help (that no call when harris got gang tackled was absurd) and we had nothing at PF.

on to the next one

This.

Watched the first 3 quarters and a smidge of the 4th and we were just out classed, missed tons of shots, played really awful transition defense and bench guys who would usually only play in limited spurts were forced to play extended runs and chucked and turned over their way to an ugly, sloppy loss.

This is likely to be a 3 game losing streak though. Our best chance for a W was and is vs Boston and even that will be a tall order.


The good thing is after this 3 game stretch of murderer's row, we have:

@Orlando
vs Sacto
vs Orlando
vs Knix

Orlando and Sacto aren't exactly pushovers these days, but we should at least go 3-1 in that span.

Oh snap!