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Re: An In-depth look and Analysis of 2019 off-season and the future 

Post#61 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:12 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:The Nets have D'Angelo Russell and Spencer Dinwiddie, along with Shabazz Napier. We don't need Brogdon.


One of the three may or may not be signed this summer hopefully it works out but if not Bogdon's a possibility.


One of the three? LeVert and Dinwiddie are locked in. Yall still think the Nets are letting Russell walk? :lol:
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Re: An In-depth look and Analysis of 2019 off-season and the future 

Post#62 » by kamaze » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:58 am

Hopefully it works out where he stays but who knows.
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Re: An In-depth look and Analysis of 2019 off-season and the future 

Post#63 » by NJDrew2 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:17 pm

Prokorov wrote:This team needs a forward. its clear as day. forget danny green and brogdan and also forget those forwards who are horrible fits like mirotic and randle.

The targets should be Kawhi, KD and Klay early and if that falters move on to tobias harris and if that falters maybe a 1+1 huge contract to milsap as a 1 year stop gap before taking a shot at the 2020 class.


I almost never post but this is my ideal off season plan. My only difference would be that I'm not a big fan of signing Tobias so I would swap him for Kyrie. Tobias seems like the type that makes them a three seed in the East for the next four years but never a true championship contender. I would be happy if they signed him for something like 15 million a year but from everything you hear he is going to get the max and tie up all of their cap space.

Millsap seems logical because of the need at forward, the fact that he played in Atlanta with Atkinson, he would be a system fit, and he already got a big money deal from Denver.

Kawhi or KD, then Klay or Kyrie, then Millsap on a short but big contract for me. Then let Marks kill it in the draft again.
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Re: An In-depth look and Analysis of 2019 off-season and the future 

Post#64 » by DeRoma » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:50 am

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Prokorov wrote:This team needs a forward. its clear as day. forget danny green and brogdan and also forget those forwards who are horrible fits like mirotic and randle.

The targets should be Kawhi, KD and Klay early and if that falters move on to tobias harris and if that falters maybe a 1+1 huge contract to milsap as a 1 year stop gap before taking a shot at the 2020 class.


I almost never post but this is my ideal off season plan. My only difference would be that I'm not a big fan of signing Tobias so I would swap him for Kyrie. Tobias seems like the type that makes them a three seed in the East for the next four years but never a true championship contender. I would be happy if they signed him for something like 15 million a year but from everything you hear he is going to get the max and tie up all of their cap space.

Millsap seems logical because of the need at forward, the fact that he played in Atlanta with Atkinson, he would be a system fit, and he already got a big money deal from Denver.

Kawhi or KD, then Klay or Kyrie, then Millsap on a short but big contract for me. Then let Marks kill it in the draft again.

Yeah same I'm on that same boat as well. Which is why going after a player like Brogdon do make sense.
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Re: An In-depth look and Analysis of 2019 off-season and the future 

Post#65 » by Keith Van Horn » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:35 pm

I'm hoping we get Russell to a reasonable deal that doesn't hurt us but he's happy. Pray other teams don't max him (I'd bet against it) or over pay for him, b/c Marks will easily let him walk. But I'm sure in that case, the max sheet then goes out to Kyrie.
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Post#66 » by Prokorov » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:35 pm

Keith Van Horn wrote:I'm hoping we get Russell to a reasonable deal that doesn't hurt us but he's happy. Pray other teams don't max him (I'd bet against it) or over pay for him, b/c Marks will easily let him walk. But I'm sure in that case, the max sheet then goes out to Kyrie.


no russell deal would hurt us. even a 5 yer max. we'd go over the cap to sign him
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Post#67 » by yanuary » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:44 am

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yanuary wrote:" Russell’s contract will most likely range between 4 years, 70-80m"

Russell's contract will most likely be 4 or 5 year max.


If you wanna talk about how great Russell is there is a thread for that. Please read the whole thing so you'd have an understanding why he is not getting a max from the Nets. Instead hitting CNTRL+F and look for every Russell word So you can embrace this non-sensical love for him.


I know that you always was DLO hater, but if you want make "in-depth look and analysis" topic you should be objective.
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Post#68 » by Prokorov » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:16 am

I'll say it again since its so obvious and set in stone. there are 2 and only 2 scenarios:

1) Nets sign 2 max free agents, they move on from Dlo

2) Nets dont sign 2 max guys, and russell is back for whatever it takes
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Post#69 » by Sleepyazn » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:25 am

Look Dlo is good and all but if this team spends a max contract on a player who only gets to the rim 17% out of all his shot selections then bye bye DLo, nice knowing you enjoy the suns or magic
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Post#70 » by Prokorov » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:05 am

Sleepyazn wrote:Look Dlo is good and all but if this team spends a max contract on a player who only gets to the rim 17% out of all his shot selections then bye bye DLo, nice knowing you enjoy the suns or magic


it is an absolute certainty the Nets would give him the max i thats what it takes. only way he isnt back is if 2 stars want to come here.
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Post#71 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:14 pm

Sleepyazn wrote:Look Dlo is good and all but if this team spends a max contract on a player who only gets to the rim 17% out of all his shot selections then bye bye DLo, nice knowing you enjoy the suns or magic


Yeah, you keep thinking Russell is going anywhere.

At this point, it is an absolute delusion to think that the front office and ownership lets this kid walk. Get real.

yall Russell haters are going to be BIG MAD in July.

and also, he is 22 years old. that 17% can change dramatically as he matures and gets stronger to absorb contact. He is not even remotely a finished product and he is clearly worth long term investment.
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Re: An In-depth look and Analysis of 2019 off-season and the future 

Post#72 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:16 pm

Prokorov wrote:
Sleepyazn wrote:Look Dlo is good and all but if this team spends a max contract on a player who only gets to the rim 17% out of all his shot selections then bye bye DLo, nice knowing you enjoy the suns or magic


it is an absolute certainty the Nets would give him the max i thats what it takes. only way he isnt back is if 2 stars want to come here.



a 22 year old PG averaging 19/4/6 on 44/37/81 is most likely getting the max.
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Post#73 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:15 pm

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Prokorov wrote:
Sleepyazn wrote:Look Dlo is good and all but if this team spends a max contract on a player who only gets to the rim 17% out of all his shot selections then bye bye DLo, nice knowing you enjoy the suns or magic


it is an absolute certainty the Nets would give him the max i thats what it takes. only way he isnt back is if 2 stars want to come here.



a 22 year old PG averaging 19/4/6 on 44/37/81 is most likely getting the max.

You never know, they might come to a compromise and he signs for something starting around 18 as soon as FA starts.
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Post#74 » by SpeedyG » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:59 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
it is an absolute certainty the Nets would give him the max i thats what it takes. only way he isnt back is if 2 stars want to come here.



a 22 year old PG averaging 19/4/6 on 44/37/81 is most likely getting the max.

You never know, they might come to a compromise and he signs for something starting around 18 as soon as FA starts.
There is no way he comes back at a deal starting at $18M. I mean, Sean is great, but he's not THAT great. Plus Sean has been good in also doing what's good for both the team and the FA.

At the least, Russell 's deal starts at $20M.

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Post#75 » by King Ken » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:36 am

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vincecarter4pres wrote:
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a 22 year old PG averaging 19/4/6 on 44/37/81 is most likely getting the max.

You never know, they might come to a compromise and he signs for something starting around 18 as soon as FA starts.
There is no way he comes back at a deal starting at $18M. I mean, Sean is great, but he's not THAT great. Plus Sean has been good in also doing what's good for both the team and the FA.

At the least, Russell 's deal starts at $20M.

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I'll say 22+. Too much need for his position around the league with that amount available. He is the best PG available.
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Post#76 » by SpeedyG » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:38 am

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vincecarter4pres wrote:You never know, they might come to a compromise and he signs for something starting around 18 as soon as FA starts.
There is no way he comes back at a deal starting at $18M. I mean, Sean is great, but he's not THAT great. Plus Sean has been good in also doing what's good for both the team and the FA.

At the least, Russell 's deal starts at $20M.

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I'll say 22+. Too much need for his position around the league with that amount available. He is the best PG available.
Yeah I'd say 20 is absolutely min, 22-24 realistic, with 27 the possibility if a team like the Suns go all in pairing him with Booker and Ayton. Which, if I'm them, I would.

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Post#77 » by King Ken » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:39 am

Nets are in a tremendous situation. You guys are right there.

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