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Re: Controversial topic but should the nets make a run at Bradley Beal?(article) 

Post#21 » by TGW » Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:52 pm

LOL at Dinwidder and Harris for Beal. The author of that article is smoking.
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Post#22 » by Brooklyn91 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:28 pm

new poster here. we would give up too much for Beal. both Spencer and Joe harris have one deals left along with Caris, but i wouldnt pull the trigger on letting them go. Spencer is a possible 6th man of the year and joe harris had the best 3% last season.
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Re: Controversial topic but should the nets make a run at Bradley Beal?(article) 

Post#23 » by Rich Rane » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:01 pm

Prokorov wrote:shouldnt you be on some russioan basketball board following jeremy lin?


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Re: Controversial topic but should the nets make a run at Bradley Beal?(article) 

Post#24 » by kamaze » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:06 pm

Brooklyn91 wrote:new poster here. we would give up too much for Beal. both Spencer and Joe harris have one deals left along with Caris, but i wouldnt pull the trigger on letting them go. Spencer is a possible 6th man of the year and joe harris had the best 3% last season.


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Re: Controversial topic but should the nets make a run at Bradley Beal?(article) 

Post#25 » by Prokorov » Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:29 pm

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LeVert is a good player. I want to see what he does with us and Dinwiddie's a good backup they'd be foolish to trade him away sort of like when they let Saun Livingston walk in free agency.



I'm not arguing that he is a good defender, but there's a difference in expectations between the the starter and the backup.
The starter sets the tone. if you don't expect him to D up (which it sounds like you don't) why would the backup feel that he needs to exert energy on that end?

You can't say you expect the team to be good if they can't play defense. Scoring is great, if you can add a good defense to the offense that's when the team is special.


when shaun livingston walked we didnt replace hm with a 26 year old all-star. its a completely different siutiation.

last year we had awful defense and were a good team. 6 playoff teams last year were bottom 10 in defense.


shouldnt you be on some russioan basketball board following jeremy lin?


As long as we focus on limiting wide open threes it really doesn't matter. The Nets manage to get stops defensively when they need to. As always, we need to hit our perimeter shots and move the ball efficiently. However, we also now have Kyrie Irving who can get us buckets when things aren't clicking.


We win with offense. if we dare teams to take low effcieincy shots we will win more often then not even if they are hitting them. defensively we werent good last year but we were top 3 in three pointers allowed and 3point % allowed.

our offense should be much better. we will be a force
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Post#26 » by MGrand15 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:04 pm

This idea that all of our guards are bad defenders I think is overblown. I know what the numbers say. I just think our system tends to make our guards look bad. On PNRs, they're usually playing 2 on 1 against the ball handler while our center is in the paint. If you don't navigate the screen perfectly, you're giving up a wide open in rhythm 15 footer or 3. No margin for error. It's a fine overall defensive philosophy but I don't think it's a coincidence all of our guards look awful defensively and are pretty bad by the numbers. Outside of Joe and DLo - none of them were guys that you could pick on in isolation. The goal was literally to try and let the ball handler score and shut down everything else.
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Re: Controversial topic but should the nets make a run at Bradley Beal?(article) 

Post#27 » by Prokorov » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:39 pm

MGrand15 wrote:This idea that all of our guards are bad defenders I think is overblown. I know what the numbers say. I just think our system tends to make our guards look bad. On PNRs, they're usually playing 2 on 1 against the ball handler while our center is in the paint. If you don't navigate the screen perfectly, you're giving up a wide open in rhythm 15 footer or 3. No margin for error. It's a fine overall defensive philosophy but I don't think it's a coincidence all of our guards look awful defensively and are pretty bad by the numbers. Outside of Joe and DLo - none of them were guys that you could pick on in isolation. The goal was literally to try and let the ball handler score and shut down everything else.


we were awful in isolation across the board. we actually did (ok by the numbers in the pnr.. mostly due to daring teams to take midrange shots).

Caris, spencer and Joe were all poor in isolation. Russell was better but approaching respectability. napier was solid by the numbers but didnt really play much/meaningfull minutes. Temple/Nwamba should help situationally.

i think pnr/team matters more anyhow... if teams are going iso heavy unless you are facing a complete superstar it makes them easy to defend as a team and allows you take breaks defensively

i think in todays league gaurd on gaurd defense is less important. you need your smalls to hold their own on bigs and bigs to hold their own vs smalls. in a non-switch situation your big is still able to help. everyone is able to help. on switches, it puts more pressure if you get beat in isolation
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Re: Controversial topic but should the nets make a run at Bradley Beal?(article) 

Post#28 » by MGrand15 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:55 pm

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MGrand15 wrote:This idea that all of our guards are bad defenders I think is overblown. I know what the numbers say. I just think our system tends to make our guards look bad. On PNRs, they're usually playing 2 on 1 against the ball handler while our center is in the paint. If you don't navigate the screen perfectly, you're giving up a wide open in rhythm 15 footer or 3. No margin for error. It's a fine overall defensive philosophy but I don't think it's a coincidence all of our guards look awful defensively and are pretty bad by the numbers. Outside of Joe and DLo - none of them were guys that you could pick on in isolation. The goal was literally to try and let the ball handler score and shut down everything else.


we were awful in isolation across the board. we actually did (ok by the numbers in the pnr.. mostly due to daring teams to take midrange shots).

Caris, spencer and Joe were all poor in isolation. Russell was better but approaching respectability. napier was solid by the numbers but didnt really play much/meaningfull minutes. Temple/Nwamba should help situationally.

i think pnr/team matters more anyhow... if teams are going iso heavy unless you are facing a complete superstar it makes them easy to defend as a team and allows you take breaks defensively

i think in todays league gaurd on gaurd defense is less important. you need your smalls to hold their own on bigs and bigs to hold their own vs smalls. in a non-switch situation your big is still able to help. everyone is able to help. on switches, it puts more pressure if you get beat in isolation


What iso numbers are you looking at? The ones on NBA.com have us at 2 in the league at defending isolations. We just didn't do it much because we rarely switched. We were the worst team in the league at defending post ups - which isn't a surprise thanks to Jarrett Allen. If you combine the two, I guess we'd be awful but those are different kinds of plays.

We do pretty well at PNRs as a whole but we were the worst team in the league at containing the PNR ball handler. Top 5 in frequency, most allowed PPP.

I'm just saying - our schemes make our guards look bad on defense. It puts a lot of pressure on them and hurts some of those advanced numbers. We were still 15 in the league in defense because they were all pretty solid.
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Re: Controversial topic but should the nets make a run at Bradley Beal?(article) 

Post#29 » by Claud » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:09 pm

Our PnR defense's main goal is to force midrange jumpers and avoid 3s and easy paint buckets. This is why our centers always sit deep in the paint and the guard is always getting demolished in PnR situations. Our bigs don't contest midrange shots.

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