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Re: Preseason: SESI Franca Brazil vs Nets - 10/04/19 | 7:30pm | YES 

Post#61 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Oct 5, 2019 9:33 pm

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MGrand15 wrote:This actually stood out to me when watching his highlights but DeAndre is a much better passer than he's given credit for. Finds guys cutting back door a lot. Underrated part of his game. Don't think we've had a center with that type of passing recently.

Temple is a lot more comfortable handling than I remembered. He's gonna be a nice piece off the bench.

He’s a career 2.3 per game passer and averaged 3 per game with the Knicks.

That’s exactly why I never buy into the BS that he was a terrible signing. He is a huge upgrade athletically and passing wise than an Ed Davis who was a terrific player here but he simply isn’t as dynamic as Jordan even at his worst, he can pass effectively.


he does the one thing davis did well (rebound) better then davis did while being an elite finisher (highest FG% in NBA history) and a bigger presence as far as shot blocking and post D.

he is also capable of being a pick and roll player, davis was not


He had two alley oops last night too
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Re: Preseason: SESI Franca Brazil vs Nets - 10/04/19 | 7:30pm | YES 

Post#62 » by Claud » Sat Oct 5, 2019 10:23 pm

Can't take much from this friendly vs. a non-NBA squad but still encouraged by our team cohesion already.

Looks like the culture survives even though half of last seasons's roster is gone.

Curious to see what our starting frontcourt looks like come opening night. DJ vs Fro and Prince vs Kurucs will be interesting.

I anticipate Kyrie/Harris/LeVert/Prince/Allen with Dinwiddie/Nwaba/Temple/Kurucs/DJ off the bench.

Clax and Musa are the youngest Nets on the roster but I expect them to fight for rotation minutes THIS season.

Our team looks deeper and more talented than last season's plus the chemistry and culture remains.

Barring injuries I think this team's floor is definatelly higher than last season's squad.
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Re: Preseason: SESI Franca Brazil vs Nets - 10/04/19 | 7:30pm | YES 

Post#63 » by Prokorov » Sun Oct 6, 2019 11:10 am

MGrand15 wrote:I have a pretty good feel for everyone on the team except for Musa. No idea if he's a legit rotation guy yet. He's got an aggressive scoring mentality, slick passing, and great size for a wing. Not sure if his 3 + defense + decision making is at the level we need it to be. Not sure if he can score efficiently against NBA guys. It would be awesome if he could turn into a legit scoring punch off the bench.


I feel similar... he isnt super quick, fast or athletic and is a good but not great shooter. he seems like someone who would need to be really crafty, really smart, and maybe use his bulk a bit, kind of like bogs but im not sure he is there yet.
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Re: Preseason: SESI Franca Brazil vs Nets - 10/04/19 | 7:30pm | YES 

Post#64 » by Prokorov » Sun Oct 6, 2019 11:29 am

My thoughts....

* Its great to have real basketball back. summer league is such a joke. i know this was the equivalent of playing a G-league team but at least it was real basketball and not glorified ymca pick up. all our guys, real sets, real game speed, etc.

* Prince is such a great fit. He is a DMC clone even down to his look. only he is more durable and a better shooter. What Carroll had over prince in craftiness, prince makes up with better shooting and driving. its going to be awesome to have him for 70+ games instead of DMC for like 50.

* Continuity is impressive. new guys look like they have been running this offense for years. our staff is so impressive. Jordan runs the 5 as well as Allen who has been here for 2 years. Prince comes off screens and handes like joe but has only been here 1 game. Claxton, Temple, Nwamba... guys look so comfortable on both ends. i counted maybe twice all game a set got fouled up and we had to back out and go ISO. That was the markinson vision. create a sustainable system, then just keep plugging in hard working high calibur guys.

* Jordan adds such a dynamic as a backup big. Last year when allen left the court so did our ability to pick and roll. Ed Davis simply was not a threat as either a screener, finisher, and really for a 6'9" guy played more below the rim then above it. Jordan allows us to stay pick and roll heavy when allen sits. and take it one step further guys are scared to fully commit to helping on caris/ball handler with jordan in the paint. we got our gaurds some easy looks at the rim cause the bigs wouldnt fully leave jordan and when they did we saw some dunks for deandre. i thought he still looked lethargic at times. he had a bunch of plays he ran the court end to end and got some dunks beating their bigs down but some times he also kind of wasnt fully into it. if we get the clippers era jordan effort (i know we wont get clippers era skill/dominance/DPOTY) its going to be a huge addition. he is a presence on the floor.

* Levert/Dinwiddie. same old same old. cant really see much improvement from these guys based on 1 game. we know who they are. for levert its consistent shooting from 3, cant see that in one game. for dinwiddie its constantly bringing the alpha aggression, easier for him in the 6 man role

*Nic Claxton... im not going to get super excited over 13 points when he came into a game we were up 30 in the 4th quarter vs a euro g-league team. I will get excited by his skillset. he is a more skilled left handed kurucs. and i wouldnt suprise me at all if he started at SF or PF at some point the way Rodi won the job last year. whether its an injury to someone or just forcing the coaches hand by playing well i think he will earn a rotation role and maybe a starting role?

I put like 0 stock in the win or the margin. they had no one to stress us on offense or stop us on defense. like not even a zack levine type to make our gaurds work or anything down low. what i do take away from a game like this is how comfortable guys are in the offense and defense and the fit. and that looked good.

Also looking forward to a lineup of:

Dinwiddie - Temple/Nwamba - Nwamba/Kurucs - Claxton - Jordan off the bench thats high energy with a bunch of guys who love to dunk
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Post#65 » by gigantes » Sun Oct 6, 2019 6:27 pm

Claud wrote:Finally! That was a LONG summer. Really missed Nets basketball!

Seriously. I'm pretty sure there's some perverse law of the universe which states that the more interesting and event-filled a summer is, somehow the more agonizingly slow it is. Like a cosmic tax, I guess.
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Re: Preseason: SESI Franca Brazil vs Nets - 10/04/19 | 7:30pm | YES 

Post#66 » by jbeachboy » Mon Oct 7, 2019 5:29 pm

do you think irving, levert, harris, prince, jarrett allen will be starters ?
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Post#67 » by kamaze » Mon Oct 7, 2019 10:15 pm

jbeachboy wrote:do you think irving, levert, harris, prince, jarrett allen will be starters ?


I prefer the Fresh Prince at small forward with Kurucs at power forward. Bring Harris off the bench.
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Re: Preseason: SESI Franca Brazil vs Nets - 10/04/19 | 7:30pm | YES 

Post#68 » by Prokorov » Wed Oct 9, 2019 12:25 am

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jbeachboy wrote:do you think irving, levert, harris, prince, jarrett allen will be starters ?


I prefer the Fresh Prince at small forward with Kurucs at power forward. Bring Harris off the bench.


Harris has to start. he makes our offense run and is our 2nd best player until KD comes back
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Post#69 » by kamaze » Wed Oct 9, 2019 12:36 am

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jbeachboy wrote:do you think irving, levert, harris, prince, jarrett allen will be starters ?


I prefer the Fresh Prince at small forward with Kurucs at power forward. Bring Harris off the bench.


Harris has to start. he makes our offense run and is our 2nd best player until KD comes back


Prince is a better defender.
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Re: Preseason: SESI Franca Brazil vs Nets - 10/04/19 | 7:30pm | YES 

Post#70 » by Prokorov » Wed Oct 9, 2019 1:42 am

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I prefer the Fresh Prince at small forward with Kurucs at power forward. Bring Harris off the bench.


Harris has to start. he makes our offense run and is our 2nd best player until KD comes back


Prince is a better defender.


1. he isnt(or at least hasnt been statistically)
2. harris overall impact is far greater
3. its moot as both will start

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