GT: Nets @ Sixers 1/15/20 7:00pm EST

[ecuhus1981]

anyone think we can fall into the draft lottery the way we are playing for this year?

Believe me, I've considered it.

Ultimately, I'm glad for Kyrie's return, and with him, I don't think we're capable of falling out of the postseason picture. It'd be a real collapse in this Eastern Conference, for us to not get in over Charlotte. I'm not for firing Kenny, I hope he takes us from the outhouse of our rebuild to the penthouse of a championship. He deserves it. BUT, if we can't make it in with Kyrie the rest of the way, it's a fire-able offense.

[Prokorov]

Dudley, Carroll, Davis, Graham weren't amazing players but they never made mistakes.

Whoa, I wouldn't go this far. Dudley, Carroll, and Graham more than enough took shots no one wanted them to take with Graham being a facepalm in a Nets uniform. All 4 of those guys have had stretches of losing their man on a boxout as well. We also never really switched defense assignments last season yet a lot of them were prone to losing their man as well.

This is what I was talking about last night. Every loss sends this board into a panic and things become reactionary.

We've gotta calm down yall. This team is a work in progress. Guys are still figuring out how to play with each other. Kyrie is still trying to acclimate himself and frankly tonight he had no energy in the 4th which says to me that his conditioning finally caught up to him.

Let things play out.

Yup, ive said it over and over, this board has the mental toughness of a teenage boy in puberty or a middleschool girl. Were not going to go 82-0. we ARE going to lose, even to awful teams sometimes.

This was the second of a back to back on the road vs. a team over .500. we are NOT going to win ANY of those games. Hell last year we snapped a 33 game streak of losing the 2nd of back to backs on the road.... let alone adding that team being .500+

on top of that you have Kyrie and levert both getting back and not having their stamina/sea legs yet. you could tell kyrie was gassed late. i was surprised he even played to be honest with our performance team.

Losing Jordan hurts... ALOT. he is the most underrated player on this board. He does so much that doesnt show up. the fact that he is a pick and roll threat and allows us to run our offense at 100% when allen sits alone is a big loss. i love claxton, but he isnt jordan and he probably isnt even a center in this league. his game is alot more kurucs then it is allen/jordan


hope the injury isnt serious. it would be a big blow

[Prokorov]

Kyrie hung ho on laying bricks

there is only 1 PG in brookyn you have not unfairly criticized. i wonder who and why

Don't instigate.

- Rich

[Hello Brooklyn]

I'm always for being patient, but time for being patient is over.

Before now, we were treading water above .500 and were in playoff position.

Now we are several games under .500 and will probably lose the next 3 games to the Sixers, Bucks and Lakers.

Falling to 18-25 would be an utter disaster. We can't be this bad anymore because of late game execution. Its not ok.

This team has the talent to be a solid playoff team but consistently under preforms in the 4th Q.

[MGrand15]

Whoa, I wouldn't go this far. Dudley, Carroll, and Graham more than enough took shots no one wanted them to take with Graham being a facepalm in a Nets uniform. All 4 of those guys have had stretches of losing their man on a boxout as well. We also never really switched defense assignments last season yet a lot of them were prone to losing their man as well.

This is what I was talking about last night. Every loss sends this board into a panic and things become reactionary.

We've gotta calm down yall. This team is a work in progress. Guys are still figuring out how to play with each other. Kyrie is still trying to acclimate himself and frankly tonight he had no energy in the 4th which says to me that his conditioning finally caught up to him.

Let things play out.

Yup, ive said it over and over, this board has the mental toughness of a teenage boy in puberty or a middleschool girl. Were not going to go 82-0. we ARE going to lose, even to awful teams sometimes.

This was the second of a back to back on the road vs. a team over .500. we are NOT going to win ANY of those games. Hell last year we snapped a 33 game streak of losing the 2nd of back to backs on the road.... let alone adding that team being .500+

on top of that you have Kyrie and levert both getting back and not having their stamina/sea legs yet. you could tell kyrie was gassed late. i was surprised he even played to be honest with our performance team.

Losing Jordan hurts... ALOT. he is the most underrated player on this board. He does so much that doesnt show up. the fact that he is a pick and roll threat and allows us to run our offense at 100% when allen sits alone is a big loss. i love claxton, but he isnt jordan and he probably isnt even a center in this league. his game is alot more kurucs then it is allen/jordan


hope the injury isnt serious. it would be a big blow

So you disagree about the BBIQ on this team being collectively down? You can respond to the point being made instead of taking little pot shots. I don't think that's debatable honestly.

This has nothing to do with winning and losing. I was in the game thread saying the same exact thing when we were winning. The team isn't executing. Our fire power might make up for it but when you mess up switches, turn the ball over in crucial moments, force shots - you're going to be an average team over the long haul.

This coaching staff has a lot of work to do.

[MrDollarBills]

I'm always for being patient, but time for being patient is over.

Before now, we were treading water above .500 and were in playoff position.

Now we are several games under .500 and will probably lose the next 3 games to the Sixers, Bucks and Lakers.

Falling to 18-25 would be an utter disaster. We can't be this bad anymore because of late game execution. Its not ok.

This team has the talent to be a solid playoff team but consistently under preforms in the 4th Q.

Let's see what happens. I don't see us beating the Bucks but I like our chances versus Philly again home. Lakers are without AD if I'm not mistaken, we might be able to pull off an upset.

Don't throw in the towel yet fam, there's still a lot of basketball left to be played.

[MrDollarBills]

Kyrie hung ho on laying bricks

there is only 1 PG in brookyn you have not unfairly criticized. i wonder who and why

Don't instigate.

- Rich

Bro ignore him. All of his comments are so negative about the team to the point where no one really responds to him and he ends up quoting his own posts.

[MrDollarBills]

Whoa, I wouldn't go this far. Dudley, Carroll, and Graham more than enough took shots no one wanted them to take with Graham being a facepalm in a Nets uniform. All 4 of those guys have had stretches of losing their man on a boxout as well. We also never really switched defense assignments last season yet a lot of them were prone to losing their man as well.

This is what I was talking about last night. Every loss sends this board into a panic and things become reactionary.

We've gotta calm down yall. This team is a work in progress. Guys are still figuring out how to play with each other. Kyrie is still trying to acclimate himself and frankly tonight he had no energy in the 4th which says to me that his conditioning finally caught up to him.

Let things play out.

Yup, ive said it over and over, this board has the mental toughness of a teenage boy in puberty or a middleschool girl. Were not going to go 82-0. we ARE going to lose, even to awful teams sometimes.

This was the second of a back to back on the road vs. a team over .500. we are NOT going to win ANY of those games. Hell last year we snapped a 33 game streak of losing the 2nd of back to backs on the road.... let alone adding that team being .500+

on top of that you have Kyrie and levert both getting back and not having their stamina/sea legs yet. you could tell kyrie was gassed late. i was surprised he even played to be honest with our performance team.

Losing Jordan hurts... ALOT. he is the most underrated player on this board. He does so much that doesnt show up. the fact that he is a pick and roll threat and allows us to run our offense at 100% when allen sits alone is a big loss. i love claxton, but he isnt jordan and he probably isnt even a center in this league. his game is alot more kurucs then it is allen/jordan


hope the injury isnt serious. it would be a big blow

I said this last night, that Jordan injury will haunt us if it keeps him out for awhile. Not having a back up C and having to run Claxton and Chandler at the 5 is going to hurt.

[Claud]

Hard to win with Kyrie going 6/21, Harris 2/9 and not much bench help.

Also, free throws have offically become a huge issue. We are mising way too many of them.

Last year's team was a 4th quarter team, almost every game you could expect us to be in it... this year we are the opposite.

4th quarter collapses have become the norm. Something has to change.

[Nondescript]

Well after watching this game I am going to throw out what might be an unpopular opinion; this team does not contend for a title even with a 100% Durant. The Nets don't have the talent to make up for the team's systemic flaws and I don't anticipate that those flaws will ever truly dealt with. Only thing that can change this is a major infusion of talent somewhere.

It's interesting that you say this (I agree with you btw), but in the other thread you seem upset that Kyrie said this in public. What gives?

Because you don't throw your coworkers under the bus.

[Prokorov]

I'm always for being patient, but time for being patient is over.

Before now, we were treading water above .500 and were in playoff position.

Now we are several games under .500 and will probably lose the next 3 games to the Sixers, Bucks and Lakers.

Falling to 18-25 would be an utter disaster. We can't be this bad anymore because of late game execution. Its not ok.

This team has the talent to be a solid playoff team but consistently under preforms in the 4th Q.

why would 18-25 be a disaster? we'd still be in the 8th seed and we would be healthy, have the guys back have some games under our belt and headed into some winnable games.

i think you are really downplaying how hard it is to win when your top 2 guys go down. take the 2 best players off any team and what does their record look like?

[Prokorov]

Well after watching this game I am going to throw out what might be an unpopular opinion; this team does not contend for a title even with a 100% Durant. The Nets don't have the talent to make up for the team's systemic flaws and I don't anticipate that those flaws will ever truly dealt with. Only thing that can change this is a major infusion of talent somewhere.

It's interesting that you say this (I agree with you btw), but in the other thread you seem upset that Kyrie said this in public. What gives?

Because you don't throw your coworkers under the bus.

he didnt do that... in fact, he praised them. but people dont want to watch the whole interview

[MrDollarBills]

Well after watching this game I am going to throw out what might be an unpopular opinion; this team does not contend for a title even with a 100% Durant. The Nets don't have the talent to make up for the team's systemic flaws and I don't anticipate that those flaws will ever truly dealt with. Only thing that can change this is a major infusion of talent somewhere.

It's interesting that you say this (I agree with you btw), but in the other thread you seem upset that Kyrie said this in public. What gives?

Because you don't throw your coworkers under the bus.

He didn't. Watch the video in the other thread. He did nothing of the sort.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I'm always for being patient, but time for being patient is over.

Before now, we were treading water above .500 and were in playoff position.

Now we are several games under .500 and will probably lose the next 3 games to the Sixers, Bucks and Lakers.

Falling to 18-25 would be an utter disaster. We can't be this bad anymore because of late game execution. Its not ok.

This team has the talent to be a solid playoff team but consistently under preforms in the 4th Q.

Let's see what happens. I don't see us beating the Bucks but I like our chances versus Philly again home. Lakers are without AD if I'm not mistaken, we might be able to pull off an upset.

Don't throw in the towel yet fam, there's still a lot of basketball left to be played.

I'm not throwing in the towel, but there is serious cause for concern.

This team should not be losing this many games with leads in the 4th Q. Kenny needs to change the mentality of this team and quick or we will miss the playoffs.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I'm always for being patient, but time for being patient is over.

Before now, we were treading water above .500 and were in playoff position.

Now we are several games under .500 and will probably lose the next 3 games to the Sixers, Bucks and Lakers.

Falling to 18-25 would be an utter disaster. We can't be this bad anymore because of late game execution. Its not ok.

This team has the talent to be a solid playoff team but consistently under preforms in the 4th Q.

why would 18-25 be a disaster? we'd still be in the 8th seed and we would be healthy, have the guys back have some games under our belt and headed into some winnable games.

i think you are really downplaying how hard it is to win when your top 2 guys go down. take the 2 best players off any team and what does their record look like?

At that point the Hornets and several teams would be on the verge of overtaking us.

I don't buy the excuse that our two guys are not healthy if we consistently have 4th Q leads.

Our losing isn't about talent. Its about consistently bad 4th Q execution.That shouldn't be happening.

[Prokorov]

I'm always for being patient, but time for being patient is over.

Before now, we were treading water above .500 and were in playoff position.

Now we are several games under .500 and will probably lose the next 3 games to the Sixers, Bucks and Lakers.

Falling to 18-25 would be an utter disaster. We can't be this bad anymore because of late game execution. Its not ok.

This team has the talent to be a solid playoff team but consistently under preforms in the 4th Q.

why would 18-25 be a disaster? we'd still be in the 8th seed and we would be healthy, have the guys back have some games under our belt and headed into some winnable games.

i think you are really downplaying how hard it is to win when your top 2 guys go down. take the 2 best players off any team and what does their record look like?

At that point the Hornets and several teams would be on the verge of overtaking us.

I don't buy the excuse that our two guys are not healthy if we consistently have 4th Q leads.

Our losing isn't about talent. Its about consistently bad 4th Q execution.That shouldn't be happening.

of course its about talent... yeah you can get by with super scrub g-leaguers like pinson and musa vs tanking awful teams like the cavs, hawks, etc... but that doesnt cut it vs real teams. and dinwiddie was only going to play the role of star for so long.

its easier to hold 4th qualrter leads when you have good players on the floor. we have that now. when its not the second of a back to back on the road vs a top team with our injures guys just back, having that talent will matter

charlotte sucks. they will face teams who dont and lose those games. were a lock playoff team unless kyrie gets hurt again.

[clo12345]

Whoa, I wouldn't go this far. Dudley, Carroll, and Graham more than enough took shots no one wanted them to take with Graham being a facepalm in a Nets uniform. All 4 of those guys have had stretches of losing their man on a boxout as well. We also never really switched defense assignments last season yet a lot of them were prone to losing their man as well.

This is what I was talking about last night. Every loss sends this board into a panic and things become reactionary.

We've gotta calm down yall. This team is a work in progress. Guys are still figuring out how to play with each other. Kyrie is still trying to acclimate himself and frankly tonight he had no energy in the 4th which says to me that his conditioning finally caught up to him.

Let things play out.

Yup, ive said it over and over, this board has the mental toughness of a teenage boy in puberty or a middleschool girl. Were not going to go 82-0. we ARE going to lose, even to awful teams sometimes.

This was the second of a back to back on the road vs. a team over .500. we are NOT going to win ANY of those games. Hell last year we snapped a 33 game streak of losing the 2nd of back to backs on the road.... let alone adding that team being .500+

on top of that you have Kyrie and levert both getting back and not having their stamina/sea legs yet. you could tell kyrie was gassed late. i was surprised he even played to be honest with our performance team.

Losing Jordan hurts... ALOT. he is the most underrated player on this board. He does so much that doesnt show up. the fact that he is a pick and roll threat and allows us to run our offense at 100% when allen sits alone is a big loss. i love claxton, but he isnt jordan and he probably isnt even a center in this league. his game is alot more kurucs then it is allen/jordan


hope the injury isnt serious. it would be a big blow

Hot take incoming..I haven't been that impressed by DJ. He' seems like a lazy screen setter and plays too careless at times. Very hit or miss. Ed Davis played better for us last year and showed much more toughness.

[kamaze]

I'm always for being patient, but time for being patient is over.

Before now, we were treading water above .500 and were in playoff position.

Now we are several games under .500 and will probably lose the next 3 games to the Sixers, Bucks and Lakers.

Falling to 18-25 would be an utter disaster. We can't be this bad anymore because of late game execution. Its not ok.

This team has the talent to be a solid playoff team but consistently underperforms in the 4th Q.

Then they're not good enough I think they need a new coach Kenny isn't getting the job done.

[kamaze]

This is what I was talking about last night. Every loss sends this board into a panic and things become reactionary.

We've gotta calm down yall. This team is a work in progress. Guys are still figuring out how to play with each other. Kyrie is still trying to acclimate himself and frankly tonight he had no energy in the 4th which says to me that his conditioning finally caught up to him.

Let things play out.

Yup, ive said it over and over, this board has the mental toughness of a teenage boy in puberty or a middleschool girl. Were not going to go 82-0. we ARE going to lose, even to awful teams sometimes.

This was the second of a back to back on the road vs. a team over .500. we are NOT going to win ANY of those games. Hell last year we snapped a 33 game streak of losing the 2nd of back to backs on the road.... let alone adding that team being .500+

on top of that you have Kyrie and levert both getting back and not having their stamina/sea legs yet. you could tell kyrie was gassed late. i was surprised he even played to be honest with our performance team.

Losing Jordan hurts... ALOT. he is the most underrated player on this board. He does so much that doesnt show up. the fact that he is a pick and roll threat and allows us to run our offense at 100% when allen sits alone is a big loss. i love claxton, but he isnt jordan and he probably isnt even a center in this league. his game is alot more kurucs then it is allen/jordan


hope the injury isnt serious. it would be a big blow

Hot take incoming..I haven't been that impressed by DJ. He' seems like a lazy screen setter and plays too careless at times. Very hit or miss. Ed Davis played better for us last year and showed much more toughness.

Opposing tTeams salivate when Jordan comes in because he doesn't leave the paint on defense.

[kamaze]

I'm always for being patient, but time for being patient is over.

Before now, we were treading water above .500 and were in playoff position.

Now we are several games under .500 and will probably lose the next 3 games to the Sixers, Bucks and Lakers.

Falling to 18-25 would be an utter disaster. We can't be this bad anymore because of late game execution. Its not ok.

This team has the talent to be a solid playoff team but consistently under preforms in the 4th Q.

Let's see what happens. I don't see us beating the Bucks but I like our chances versus Philly again home. Lakers are without AD if I'm not mistaken, we might be able to pull off an upset.

Don't throw in the towel yet fam, there's still a lot of basketball left to be played.

I'm not throwing in the towel, but there is serious cause for concern.

This team should not be losing this many games with leads in the 4th Q. Kenny needs to change the mentality of this team and quick or we will miss the playoffs.

They're dead last in 4th quarter efficiency. That's a fact not an opinion.