GT: Lakers vs Nets - Thursday, 01/23/20 | 8:00pm EST | TNT

[NetsJets]

I can deal with losses if they give this effort every game. Now let’s bottle this up and bring this effort going forward.

[MGrand15]

I know it's not gonna happen but I don't think we see any changes in play style until Rodi replaces Prince in the starting lineup. Prince reminds me of Crabbe at his worst. Yeah, he can get hot from 3. He might have some big nights. When you factor in the bad shot selection, not making passes on time, stupid fouls, pumpfaking and letting the defense reset, braindead plays - he turns into a negative.

We might have to throw Temple in there too. I think a Kyrie Dinwiddie backcourt can work but not with Prince at the 4. And Harris at the 3 makes it tough. Dinwiddie having to guard LeBron just shows that Marks has done a poor job assembling this squad.

[Papi_swav]

We lost when Dudley hit that 3.

[Papi_swav]

I know it's not gonna happen but I don't think we see any changes in play style until Rodi replaces Prince in the starting lineup. Prince reminds me of Crabbe at his worst. Yeah, he can get hot from 3. He might have some big nights. When you factor in the bad shot selection, not making passes on time, stupid fouls, pumpfaking and letting the defense reset, braindead plays - he turns into a negative.

We might have to throw Temple in there too. I think a Kyrie Dinwiddie backcourt can work but not with Prince at the 4. And Harris at the 3 makes it tough. Dinwiddie having to guard LeBron just shows that Marks has done a poor job assembling this squad.

Exactly. Last year when Rodi entered the starting lineup, that's when this whole team made a turn around and we made the playoff push. I know it's not all because of Rodi but his energy is what this team needs and he makes timely cuts and plays. Honestly I rather Crabbe here than Prince, I can't believe I'm saying that because I couldn't stand Crabbe but at least he shot 40% for us. I said it before, Prince is by far the dumbest player on this roster, excuse my language.

Din guarding Lebron 1 on 1 is on Kenny. I don't understand how he let Lebron back him down all the way into the paint and not send help. That's when the double team suppose to come in. But this idiotic analytics crap that they keep preaching about, letting guys make layups instead of taking 3s BS. Ugh very frustrating. IDK we need a tweak somewhere.

[Papi_swav]

no, you dont need to wonder that. cause KD isnt a toddler or emo middle school teen. if anything they should be super encouraged by how well this team has played despite massive long term injury.

it is idiotic to think otherwise. people are just turning into cry babies here, its gross.

There is absolutely nothing encouraging about the state of this team. We've won 1 out of our last 10 games. Multiple losing streaks.

The next 7 games will be really telling. We face the Pistons 2x, the Knicks, Bulls, Wizards, Suns, and Warriors. A good team should go at least 5-2 against those teams. A bad team would go under .500. Let’s see what we’re made of.

If we go below .500 then this team does not deserve to be anywhere near the playoffs and a slap in the face.

[MrDollarBills]

There is absolutely nothing encouraging about the state of this team. We've won 1 out of our last 10 games. Multiple losing streaks.

The next 7 games will be really telling. We face the Pistons 2x, the Knicks, Bulls, Wizards, Suns, and Warriors. A good team should go at least 5-2 against those teams. A bad team would go under .500. Let’s see what we’re made of.

if we play like we have the last 4 games we will go 7-0

I am PRAYING you are right. Irving is clearly not healthy and we don't have any big man depth. I hope your confidence becomes justified, real talk.

[MrDollarBills]

I'm glad the overall vibe from folks on here is positive. Gives me some hope that maybe I'm wrong about this roster and guys can turn it around.

[Prokorov]

I'm not gonna be mad cause we lost to arguably the best team in the league.

But some of the recent losses have been acceptable.

Recent Loses:

v. Lakers (best record in the west)
v. Bucks (Best record in the NBA)
v. Philly (No Kyrie)
v. Jazz (Won 18 of last 20 games)
v. Philly (second of a back to back on the road vs .500+ team)

We should have been expected to go 1-4 in that stretch, maybe 2-3 if Kyrie played both Philly games. I dont see how any of those were "unacceptable". We hung tough in most.

Next 7 are against below .500 teams. We have to go 5-2 or at worst 4-3 if we want a chance at staying afloat.

Any worse than that and we probably miss the playoffs.

This is just flat out wrong, ignores the standings, ignores the schedule and ignores math. Like for instance if we went 1-6 during that stretch and the pistons went 7-0 we would be 2.5 games back of the 8th seed with 32 games to play.

I'd have to check the historical records but im positive at least one team managed to crawl out of 2.5 game deficient with 32 games to do it (and more likely hundreds of teams have done it).

This doom and gloom is just recency bias and people not being able to seperate emotions from reality. We are in great shape as far as the playoffs are concerned. People are killing this team for losing to elite games for 5 straight loses but the hornets who are 2 team behind us just lost 7 straight. The Bulls are not trying to make the playoffs.

It would take alot more than "going worse than 4-3" in this stretch to even come close to jeopardizing our playoff chances. Hell if we go 5-2 we may have a 5 game lead on the 9th seed at that point.

Only reason we had a good stretch earlier is cause Dinwiddie was playing over his head. And hes gone back to Earth. We have to find other ways to win.

It is REALLY hard to win when you are missing your top players and multiple rotation players. Kyrie played but it was clear the hammy is still a bit stiff. Missing Jordan hurts. Levert and Kyrie need to get 10+ straight games together under their belt. I mean i know we are 40 games in but those games have yet to have a 10 game stretch to get into mid season form.

Everything is trending up. We are playing good basketball, just vs. better teams and need consistency which comes with reps. we will gain that the next few weeks.

Harris, Prince, and Temple are proven shooters, they will get hot again. Levert needs to stop turning it over, and Rodi is starting to round into form. Kyrie is an assasin once healthy and going well.

check back in 2 weeks.

[NetsJets]

Prokorov can see the positive in almost anything I dig it.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I'm not gonna be mad cause we lost to arguably the best team in the league.

But some of the recent losses have been acceptable.

Recent Loses:

v. Lakers (best record in the west)
v. Bucks (Best record in the NBA)
v. Philly (No Kyrie)
v. Jazz (Won 18 of last 20 games)
v. Philly (second of a back to back on the road vs .500+ team)

We should have been expected to go 1-4 in that stretch, maybe 2-3 if Kyrie played both Philly games. I dont see how any of those were "unacceptable". We hung tough in most.

Next 7 are against below .500 teams. We have to go 5-2 or at worst 4-3 if we want a chance at staying afloat.

Any worse than that and we probably miss the playoffs.

This is just flat out wrong, ignores the standings, ignores the schedule and ignores math. Like for instance if we went 1-6 during that stretch and the pistons went 7-0 we would be 2.5 games back of the 8th seed with 32 games to play.

I'd have to check the historical records but im positive at least one team managed to crawl out of 2.5 game deficient with 32 games to do it (and more likely hundreds of teams have done it).

This doom and gloom is just recency bias and people not being able to seperate emotions from reality. We are in great shape as far as the playoffs are concerned. People are killing this team for losing to elite games for 5 straight loses but the hornets who are 2 team behind us just lost 7 straight. The Bulls are not trying to make the playoffs.

It would take alot more than "going worse than 4-3" in this stretch to even come close to jeopardizing our playoff chances. Hell if we go 5-2 we may have a 5 game lead on the 9th seed at that point.

Only reason we had a good stretch earlier is cause Dinwiddie was playing over his head. And hes gone back to Earth. We have to find other ways to win.

It is REALLY hard to win when you are missing your top players and multiple rotation players. Kyrie played but it was clear the hammy is still a bit stiff. Missing Jordan hurts. Levert and Kyrie need to get 10+ straight games together under their belt. I mean i know we are 40 games in but those games have yet to have a 10 game stretch to get into mid season form.

Everything is trending up. We are playing good basketball, just vs. better teams and need consistency which comes with reps. we will gain that the next few weeks.

Harris, Prince, and Temple are proven shooters, they will get hot again. Levert needs to stop turning it over, and Rodi is starting to round into form. Kyrie is an assasin once healthy and going well.

check back in 2 weeks.

When I said recent games I didn't mean the Sixers or Bucks games. I meant the OKC game, the Magic game, the Wolves game, and the Knicks game.

Those were all teams we couldn't afford to lose to if we wanted to stay around .500.

If we go 1-6, we will be 19-31. The Pistons would be 24-28.

I'm not math expert but that is not a 2.5 game deficit. What are you talking about?

Furthermore, I'm tired of your idiotic proclamations that everyone is doom and gloom and that things are great. No they are not.

You are the same guy who foolishly embarrassed all of us by making stupid bets saying we would be 10 games better than the Celtics in the RS. And will have to give up your sig and avatar for the whole season.

You also tried telling me when we were the 7 seed (without Kyrie), you were confident that we would be playing for home court in the playoffs.

You've been completely and utterly wrong at every turn and its time for you to stop telling everyone they're being emotional and realize the only delusional one on this board is you.

I'm not saying this is the end of the world and we should blow the team up. But missing the playoffs is certainly a possibility for this team. And if that happened it would be a disaster.

I still think we can make it as a 7 or 8 seed, but it won't be easy.

We need to turn it around quickly.

[ecuhus1981]

To another point, yes, CHI and DET and CHA are not actively pursuing the postseason. AND YET, one or more of them may fall bass ackward into the playoff over us, a team that wants to get there.

[Prokorov]

Prokorov can see the positive in almost anything I dig it.

People say that, but then get on me for saying levert was more of a role guy than all-star. im in the middle for the most part, it just seems like im an optomist/pessimisnt because most here are knee-jerky to one side

[Prokorov]

When I said recent games I didn't mean the Sixers or Bucks games. I meant the OKC game, the Magic game, the Wolves game, and the Knicks game.

Those are all without Kyrie and either with no levert or levert just back. we cant expect to win, especially vs good teams without our best player(s). especially OKC< where we battled but the difference is their star closed it out for them and our star was on the sideline.

Those were all teams we couldn't afford to lose to if we wanted to stay around .500.

.500 is an unrealistic goal without kyrie

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If we go 1-6, we will be 19-31. The Pistons would be 24-28. [/quote]

3 games back in the loss column with 30+ games to play. hardly a death sentence

I'm not math expert but that is not a 2.5 game deficit. What are you talking about?

standings hadnt updated when i wrote that, so nets had 1 less loss in my calculation. putting them at 30 losses instead of 31 in my calculation

Furthermore, I'm tired of your idiotic proclamations that everyone is doom and gloom and that things are great. No they are not.

yes they are, given the circumstances. Atkinson has done an elite job holding the fort. its hard to do that for 25-30 games. without kyrie/levert we have the least talent in the east yet are still ahead of teams like the wizards who have a stud in beal

You also tried telling me when we were the 7 seed (without Kyrie), you were confident that we would be playing for home court in the playoffs.

We will if kyrie stays healthy

You've been completely and utterly wrong at every turn and its time for you to stop telling everyone they're being emotional and realize the only delusional one on this board is you.

ive been right on 99% of everything. you just dont acknowledge it when i am. levert is a perfect example.

I'm not saying this is the end of the world and we should blow the team up. But missing the playoffs is certainly a possibility for this team. And if that happened it would be a disaster.

it is an extremely remote possibility. 95% chance we make the playoffs even if we go 3-4 or 2-5 or 1-6 this next stretch. teams behind us are awful, dont have any hope of talent coming back, and arent even trying to win for the most part

[DarkXaero]

I know it's not gonna happen but I don't think we see any changes in play style until Rodi replaces Prince in the starting lineup. Prince reminds me of Crabbe at his worst. Yeah, he can get hot from 3. He might have some big nights. When you factor in the bad shot selection, not making passes on time, stupid fouls, pumpfaking and letting the defense reset, braindead plays - he turns into a negative.

We might have to throw Temple in there too. I think a Kyrie Dinwiddie backcourt can work but not with Prince at the 4. And Harris at the 3 makes it tough. Dinwiddie having to guard LeBron just shows that Marks has done a poor job assembling this squad.

We've all been complaining about Prince but was he the problem last night? He went 6-13 FG, 18 pts (3-7 from 3). And lately, he has been more efficient, slowly regaining some form. I get what you're saying but he wasn't the problem last night. I would love to see Rodi succeed, but he didn't do himself any favors last night with his minutes. He's still too prone to making big mistakes when teams put the pressure on (this has been the case last two games).

[MrDollarBills]

I know it's not gonna happen but I don't think we see any changes in play style until Rodi replaces Prince in the starting lineup. Prince reminds me of Crabbe at his worst. Yeah, he can get hot from 3. He might have some big nights. When you factor in the bad shot selection, not making passes on time, stupid fouls, pumpfaking and letting the defense reset, braindead plays - he turns into a negative.

We might have to throw Temple in there too. I think a Kyrie Dinwiddie backcourt can work but not with Prince at the 4. And Harris at the 3 makes it tough. Dinwiddie having to guard LeBron just shows that Marks has done a poor job assembling this squad.

We've all been complaining about Prince but was he the problem last night? He went 6-13 FG, 18 pts (3-7 from 3). And lately, he has been more efficient, slowly regaining some form. I get what you're saying but he wasn't the problem last night. I would love to see Rodi succeed, but he didn't do himself any favors last night with his minutes. He's still too prone to making big mistakes when teams put the pressure on (this has been the case last two games).

On top of the fact that he looks like he's going to **** himself every time he gets the ball.

[Hello Brooklyn]

The biggest problem to me is still the defense.

We don't have any great defensive players. Shump and Nwaba were the closest thing.

Who is our best defensive player currently?
Prince?

Its a joke.

[Paradise]

Despite the doom and gloom. We will be getting DJ and Nic likely back tomorrow. So, we’re going to get back 13/15 of our players entering a must win stretch of games.

Our upcoming schedule: @DET, @NY, vs DET, vs CHI, @ WSH, vs PHX, vs GS.

We enter all star break with a slaughterhouse lineup of games. @TOR, vs IND, vs TOR.

Our best chances to obviously make up a solidified ground is going to be this 7 game stretch.

[NetsJets]

Despite the doom and gloom. We will be getting DJ and Nic likely back tomorrow. So, we’re going to get back 13/15 of our players entering a must win stretch of games.

Our upcoming schedule: @DET, @NY, vs DET, vs CHI, @ WSH, vs PHX, vs GS.

We enter all star break with a slaughterhouse lineup of games. @TOR, vs IND, vs TOR.

Our best chances to obviously make up a solidified ground is going to be this 7 game stretch.

Hopefully we at least go 5-2 during that stretch. I’m not expecting us to win all those games.

[ecuhus1981]

The biggest problem to me is still the defense.

We don't have any great defensive players. Shump and Nwaba were the closest thing.

Who is our best defensive player currently?
Prince?

Its a joke.

Yeah, Temple hasn't lit up the world on the defense end recently either, and I'm a big proponent of his impact on that end. DJ? Nah, way too inconsistent. Jarrett? Quietly good and versatile on D, but too passive to be anyone's leader. Kurucs is a pest, but his role is too inconsistent to be the stopper. Don't even ask me about Ky, Spence, Joe or Caris.

We seriously may be living in the Bizarro world, where Prince is our best defender. Oof.