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DarkXaero · Post #141 » by **DarkXaero** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:04 pm

@NyCeEvO

Since you tagged me when Tyler Johnson was having a really bad game, I want some credit for his good minutes last two games :lol:

Openheimer · Post #142 » by **Openheimer** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:53 am

Kyrie is the best finisher around the rim I have ever seen. Even better then Rose in his prime and Iverson. It’s insane how well he finishes

Prokorov · Post #143 » by **Prokorov** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:45 pm

Openheimer wrote:Kyrie is the best finisher around the rim I have ever seen. Even better then Rose in his prime and Iverson. It’s insane how well he finishes

yup. in traffic, over bigs, left hand, right hand.

best ever below the rim for sure

Paradise · Post #144 » by **Paradise** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:43 pm

2000 - Stephon Marbury

2002 - Jason Kidd

2011 - Deron Williams

2018-19 - D’Angelo Russell

2019-20 - Kyrie Irving

2021 - James Harden

We’re blessed.

Granted, Deron was the biggest pussy out of this Nets generation of guards but give him credit when he was here early on. He did have 57 points in a NJ Nets jersey, 20 assists in a game vs GS, 11 3 pointers record vs Wiz, etc.

MrDollarBills · Post #145 » by **MrDollarBills** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:50 pm

Paradise wrote:2000 - Stephon Marbury

2002 - Jason Kidd

2011 - Deron Williams

2018-19 - D’Angelo Russell

2019-20 - Kyrie Irving

2021 - James Harden

We’re blessed.

Granted, Deron was the biggest pussy out of this Nets generation of guards but give him credit when he was here early on. He did have 57 points in a NJ Nets jersey, 20 assists in a game vs GS, 11 3 pointers record vs Wiz, etc.

The difference is that the other guys wanted to be here. Deron didn't and towards the middle of a max contract he started playing like it. I think that's why he will never get love from this franchise and fanbase, ever.

therealbig3 · Post #146 » by **therealbig3** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:52 pm

Deron had some nice moments for us, but was overall either injured or sulking or dogging it, or some combination of the 3. His post-ASG stretch in 2013 may have been the best basketball he played his whole career, as he led us to a top 4 seed...but then we flamed out and lost in embarrassing fashion to a totally depleted Bulls team and he got outplayed by Nate Robinson. And then it was all downhill from there, he was never the same guy after that.

And I still think his career demonstrates one of the fastest drop offs from elite player to being washed up. Was traded in 2011 and widely considered a top 3-4 PG and a top 10 overall player in the middle of his prime. Out of the league by 2017.

vincecarter4pres · Post #147 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:28 pm

therealbig3 wrote:Deron had some nice moments for us, but was overall either injured or sulking or dogging it, or some combination of the 3. His post-ASG stretch in 2013 may have been the best basketball he played his whole career, as he led us to a top 4 seed...but then we flamed out and lost in embarrassing fashion to a totally depleted Bulls team and he got outplayed by Nate Robinson. And then it was all downhill from there, he was never the same guy after that.

And I still think his career demonstrates one of the fastest drop offs from elite player to being washed up. Was traded in 2011 and widely considered a top 3-4 PG and a top 10 overall player in the middle of his prime. Out of the league by 2017.

He was argued as the best overall point guard period, over prime Chris Paul a couple years as well and for maybe 3 or 4 seasons was pretty much the unanimous 2nd best.

It's honestly crazy to think about how hard and quickly he fell off, physically, mentally and his love for the game. Just a complete and total meltdown.

I don't know there's anyone in NBA history that fell off so steeply and at such a young age without a series of crippling injuries. Sure his ankles were messed up, but nothing that was considered that dramatic.

therealbig3 · Post #148 » by **therealbig3** » Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:40 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:Deron had some nice moments for us, but was overall either injured or sulking or dogging it, or some combination of the 3. His post-ASG stretch in 2013 may have been the best basketball he played his whole career, as he led us to a top 4 seed...but then we flamed out and lost in embarrassing fashion to a totally depleted Bulls team and he got outplayed by Nate Robinson. And then it was all downhill from there, he was never the same guy after that.

And I still think his career demonstrates one of the fastest drop offs from elite player to being washed up. Was traded in 2011 and widely considered a top 3-4 PG and a top 10 overall player in the middle of his prime. Out of the league by 2017.

He was argued as the best overall point guard period, over prime Chris Paul a couple years as well and for maybe 3 or 4 seasons was pretty much the unanimous 2nd best.

It's honestly crazy to think about how hard and quickly he fell off, physically, mentally and his love for the game. Just a complete and total meltdown.

I don't know there's anyone in NBA history that fell off so steeply and at such a young age without a series of crippling injuries. Sure his ankles were messed up, but nothing that was considered that dramatic.

Well yeah, I think at the time of the trade, some people had soured on him a bit, Sloan had just quit and he got the coach-killer label, and he had cooled off after starting off the year blistering hot. I think most people preferred DRose at that point (that was his MVP year), and some people I’m sure still argued for Paul and Nash despite Nash being older and Paul being injury-prone. That’s why I said top 3-4, to include even the stretchiest of opinions. Regardless, I think most people had Deron #2 after Rose that year at the time of the trade.

Paradise · Post #149 » by **Paradise** » Tue Feb 16, 2021 2:46 am

therealbig3 wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:Deron had some nice moments for us, but was overall either injured or sulking or dogging it, or some combination of the 3. His post-ASG stretch in 2013 may have been the best basketball he played his whole career, as he led us to a top 4 seed...but then we flamed out and lost in embarrassing fashion to a totally depleted Bulls team and he got outplayed by Nate Robinson. And then it was all downhill from there, he was never the same guy after that.

And I still think his career demonstrates one of the fastest drop offs from elite player to being washed up. Was traded in 2011 and widely considered a top 3-4 PG and a top 10 overall player in the middle of his prime. Out of the league by 2017.

He was argued as the best overall point guard period, over prime Chris Paul a couple years as well and for maybe 3 or 4 seasons was pretty much the unanimous 2nd best.

It's honestly crazy to think about how hard and quickly he fell off, physically, mentally and his love for the game. Just a complete and total meltdown.

I don't know there's anyone in NBA history that fell off so steeply and at such a young age without a series of crippling injuries. Sure his ankles were messed up, but nothing that was considered that dramatic.

Well yeah, I think at the time of the trade, some people had soured on him a bit, Sloan had just quit and he got the coach-killer label, and he had cooled off after starting off the year blistering hot. I think most people preferred DRose at that point (that was his MVP year), and some people I’m sure still argued for Paul and Nash despite Nash being older and Paul being injury-prone. That’s why I said top 3-4, to include even the stretchiest of opinions. Regardless, I think most people had Deron #2 after Rose that year at the time of the trade.

The comments from Paul Pierce, Shaun Livingston, Jason Terry and KG basically exposed that Deron flat out enjoyed everything as a basketball player except for playing hard or practicing.